Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

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Anonymous wrote:The Oregon woman who has tested positive is a teacher in Washington County. She is considered a community spread case and became symptomatic February 19.

Her school has been shut down. She also had contact with individuals at another school.

She is called a presumptive case because they are waiting for federal authorities to confirm the state's positive result. (Side query: Do we need this federal endorsement? Will be like China reporting confirmed cases and suspected cases?)


https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/02/coronavirus-appears-in-oregon.html


The 19th is when she became symptomatic? So for a week or two weeks prior she was an asymptomatic spreader in an elementary school. No doubt the kids spread it asymptomaticly and are still in incubation periods as are their families. You literally couldn’t come up with a worse scenario other than the olympics.


She probably got the illness from one of her students, who may have got it from another student, who got it from her aunt, who returned from a visit to China in early January.

All the kids in her class could be SYMPTOMATIC spreaders. Coughing all the time. Kids are germy.

Remember, since we haven't been testing for community spread, the first cases we see will be the most severe ones, ending up with severe pneumonia. But just because she is the first we know about doesn't mean she's the first who has the illness.



You’re right and this is actually a lot worse since it means there could be hundreds of kids spreading it since they would be playing at recess together.
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?


I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.


Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.


Don’t buy into the smoking theories. Sure it makes one feel better I guess. The problem is no smokers vs non. It’s containing this virus


Are you a smoker by any chance?



I didn’t answer this thread but agree ppl have tried to find reasons to think they might be safe. The virus infects smoker and non a like. Ederly or not. How lucky are you? The only watt I manage luck is to plan for it. Planning and execution are both lack luster now? Is it easier to ban travel to and from certain areas in January or quarantine citizens here in March? Hmm


I don't understand the people saying smoking has nothing to do with the serious cases. If your lungs are damaged, they are more susceptible to failing. I mean...that's just obvious. You can be concerned and still recognize obvious risk factors that are likely to be in play.


No one knows if many infected with serious conditions are smokers. Generalizing doesn’t help.


Indonesia is F-ed if smoking is a risk-factor for serious cases. ~75% of men smoke.

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Anonymous wrote:The Washington State Health Department is giving a press briefing on coronavirus at 8 pm PST, 11 pm EST.

No details given according to BNO News Twitter.


Perhaps it is about this patient who entered a hospital in Bellevue today with "extreme flu-like" symptoms, who was being tested for coronavirus.

https://komonews.com/news/local/bellevue-patient-with-extreme-flu-like-symptoms-being-tested-for-coronavirus
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Anonymous wrote:CDC Just moved Italy to level 3 alert
. Does that also mean they can’t travel here? What’s the use of a one way plan


Exactly. Same with the other countries, and now we have community spread in CA.
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This site, which may have been posted pages ago in this thread, is far more up to date than the CDC and other government sites, and I have found the government site eventually catch up. I'm in the camp that finds it helpful to know the spread pattern here and abroad.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Washington State announced 2 new cases. One is a woman in her 50's who got sick after traveling to South Korea. She's doing well and staying in quarantine with her husband at home.

The other is a high school student from Snohomish County - they don't know how he got it.
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It’s just a flu, bro
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The community spread in the western US shows that travel was not shut down fast enough and/or people are not abiding by the quarantine orders after travel. There is a large Asian population along the west coast line.
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Well - as soon as they relaxed testing criteria, we find unexplained community spread. Totally expected, of course.
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Google restricts travel as coronavirus outbreak spreads and employee in Switzerland tests positive

A Google employee has tested positive for the coronavirus at an office in Switzerland, and the company is now restricting staff travel to Italy, Japan, Iran and South Korea, which have all seen the virus spread.

“We can confirm that one employee from our Zurich office has been diagnosed with the coronavirus,” a Google spokesperson confirmed to CNBC’s Deirdre Bosa. “They were in the Zurich office for a limited time, before they had any symptoms. We have taken — and will continue to take — all necessary precautionary measures, following the advice of public health officials, as we prioritize everyone’s health and safety.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/google-employee-diagnosed-with-coronavirus.html
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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe the president said it was a hoax today! We are doomed if that’s what he is saying.


Source? Was this a tweet or something? He actually said "hoax"?
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?


I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.


Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.


Don’t buy into the smoking theories. Sure it makes one feel better I guess. The problem is no smokers vs non. It’s containing this virus


Are you a smoker by any chance?



I didn’t answer this thread but agree ppl have tried to find reasons to think they might be safe. The virus infects smoker and non a like. Ederly or not. How lucky are you? The only watt I manage luck is to plan for it. Planning and execution are both lack luster now? Is it easier to ban travel to and from certain areas in January or quarantine citizens here in March? Hmm


I don't understand the people saying smoking has nothing to do with the serious cases. If your lungs are damaged, they are more susceptible to failing. I mean...that's just obvious. You can be concerned and still recognize obvious risk factors that are likely to be in play.


No one knows if many infected with serious conditions are smokers. Generalizing doesn’t help.


Indonesia is F-ed if smoking is a risk-factor for serious cases. ~75% of men smoke.



Where are you getting that stat?
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Anonymous wrote:The community spread in the western US shows that travel was not shut down fast enough and/or people are not abiding by the quarantine orders after travel. There is a large Asian population along the west coast line.
so they aren’t abiding by self quarantine? Who really does? Who reports themselves for speeding down the road?
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Santa Clara County held a press conference. Looks like that got her test result back in less than day.

"The infected patient is an older adult woman with chronic health conditions who was hospitalized for a respiratory illness, county officials said. Her infectious disease physician contacted the Public Health Department to discuss the case and request testing for the novel coronavirus.

The Santa Clara County Public Health Laboratory received the specimens Thursday and performed the testing. Since receiving the results last night, the department has been working to identify contacts and understand the extent of exposures."

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/02/28/santa-clara...nnounces-new-coronavirus-case/

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Second case of unknown origin in Northern California - no connection to first case.

The patient is a 65-year-old person from Santa Clara County, with no known history of travel to places hit hard by the outbreak, and no contact with a known case of the virus. Santa Clara is about 90 miles from Solano County, where the first case of community transmission in the United States was confirmed this week.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/28/coronavirus-live-updates/




So not all testing has to go back to Atlanta now? That will speed things up.


They need to trace the movements of the people who met the evacuee airplane. They have been out there for the last few weeks and no doubt moving around the area.


But why?
I am sure they washed their hands. Masks don’t protect you ...didn't you hear? This is what WHO, CDC and everyone else tells us.


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