Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

[Anonymous]

The US is just muffing the handling of this completely. My theory is the reason they’re telling us that masks don’t help us because there’s already a shortage of masks for medical professionals and they need them for those workers. They’re STILL not testing people, even those who are exhibiting symptoms (I know one who went to the doctor today with classic symptoms and he was sent home to rest, not tested). My kid says there were a ton of kids sick from school today (flu? Who knows).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me why it’s so perplexing to health officials that the woman in N. CA had no recent foreign travel or “known” contact with infected people? All she had to do was touch any surface that an infected person touched - I’m sure there are plenty of infected individuals in the US who are asymptomatic. Why do they actually assume they’ll find a clear connection? The incubation period is long enough that many people were traveling, unaware that they might be carriers.

What is even more perplexing is the fact that they keep telling you that the in the face of a bug that travels via air, you should wash hands. And do NOT wear masks!
So when primary way of contraction is mouth, nose and eyes... we need to focus and limit prevention to hand washing?
This is not diarrhea..

No logic, no science, no common sense.

THE WHOLE WORLD IS WEARING MASKS. WE ARE TOO COOL.
Yes do wash hands. But in addition.

If china is so praised for their actions then how come nobody told them masks are stupid.
AHA!...... maybe because without the masks they would not do as well?

This is from SARS wiki page similar disease, so when we limit prevention to hand washing it is lie we are bolting windows with plywood byt leave the door open to invasion?

Cause
The primary route of transmission for SARS is contact of the mucous membranes with respiratory droplets or fomites. Whilst diarrhea is common in people with SARS, the fecal-oral route does not appear to be a common mode of transmission

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me why it’s so perplexing to health officials that the woman in N. CA had no recent foreign travel or “known” contact with infected people? All she had to do was touch any surface that an infected person touched - I’m sure there are plenty of infected individuals in the US who are asymptomatic. Why do they actually assume they’ll find a clear connection? The incubation period is long enough that many people were traveling, unaware that they might be carriers.

What is even more perplexing is the fact that they keep telling you that the in the face of a bug that travels via air, you should wash hands. And do NOT wear masks!
So when primary way of contraction is mouth, nose and eyes... we need to focus and limit prevention to hand washing?
This is not diarrhea..

No logic, no science, no common sense.

THE WHOLE WORLD IS WEARING MASKS. WE ARE TOO COOL.
Yes do wash hands. But in addition.

If china is so praised for their actions then how come nobody told them masks are stupid.
AHA!...... maybe because without the masks they would not do as well?

This is from SARS wiki page similar disease, so when we limit prevention to hand washing it is lie we are bolting windows with plywood byt leave the door open to invasion?

Cause
The primary route of transmission for SARS is contact of the mucous membranes with respiratory droplets or fomites. Whilst diarrhea is common in people with SARS, the fecal-oral route does not appear to be a common mode of transmission

Correction , bolded typo:
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[Anonymous]

Santa Clara County held a press conference. Looks like that got her test result back in less than day.

"The infected patient is an older adult woman with chronic health conditions who was hospitalized for a respiratory illness, county officials said. Her infectious disease physician contacted the Public Health Department to discuss the case and request testing for the novel coronavirus.

The Santa Clara County Public Health Laboratory received the specimens Thursday and performed the testing. Since receiving the results last night, the department has been working to identify contacts and understand the extent of exposures."

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/02/28/santa-clara-county-announces-new-coronavirus-case/

Anonymous wrote:Second case of unknown origin in Northern California - no connection to first case.

The patient is a 65-year-old person from Santa Clara County, with no known history of travel to places hit hard by the outbreak, and no contact with a known case of the virus. Santa Clara is about 90 miles from Solano County, where the first case of community transmission in the United States was confirmed this week.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/28/coronavirus-live-updates/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Santa Clara County held a press conference. Looks like that got her test result back in less than day.

"The infected patient is an older adult woman with chronic health conditions who was hospitalized for a respiratory illness, county officials said. Her infectious disease physician contacted the Public Health Department to discuss the case and request testing for the novel coronavirus.

The Santa Clara County Public Health Laboratory received the specimens Thursday and performed the testing. Since receiving the results last night, the department has been working to identify contacts and understand the extent of exposures."

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/02/28/santa-clara-county-announces-new-coronavirus-case/

Anonymous wrote:Second case of unknown origin in Northern California - no connection to first case.

The patient is a 65-year-old person from Santa Clara County, with no known history of travel to places hit hard by the outbreak, and no contact with a known case of the virus. Santa Clara is about 90 miles from Solano County, where the first case of community transmission in the United States was confirmed this week.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/28/coronavirus-live-updates/

So not all testing has to go back to Atlanta now? That will speed things up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Santa Clara County held a press conference. Looks like that got her test result back in less than day.

"The infected patient is an older adult woman with chronic health conditions who was hospitalized for a respiratory illness, county officials said. Her infectious disease physician contacted the Public Health Department to discuss the case and request testing for the novel coronavirus.

The Santa Clara County Public Health Laboratory received the specimens Thursday and performed the testing. Since receiving the results last night, the department has been working to identify contacts and understand the extent of exposures."

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/02/28/santa-clara...nnounces-new-coronavirus-case/

Anonymous wrote:
Second case of unknown origin in Northern California - no connection to first case.

The patient is a 65-year-old person from Santa Clara County, with no known history of travel to places hit hard by the outbreak, and no contact with a known case of the virus. Santa Clara is about 90 miles from Solano County, where the first case of community transmission in the United States was confirmed this week.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/28/coronavirus-live-updates/




So not all testing has to go back to Atlanta now? That will speed things up.

They need to trace the movements of the people who met the evacuee airplane. They have been out there for the last few weeks and no doubt moving around the area.

[Anonymous]

Oregon reports its first presumptive case, according to BNO News Twitter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The US is just muffing the handling of this completely. My theory is the reason they’re telling us that masks don’t help us because there’s already a shortage of masks for medical professionals and they need them for those workers. They’re STILL not testing people, even those who are exhibiting symptoms (I know one who went to the doctor today with classic symptoms and he was sent home to rest, not tested). My kid says there were a ton of kids sick from school today (flu? Who knows).

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me why it’s so perplexing to health officials that the woman in N. CA had no recent foreign travel or “known” contact with infected people? All she had to do was touch any surface that an infected person touched - I’m sure there are plenty of infected individuals in the US who are asymptomatic. Why do they actually assume they’ll find a clear connection? The incubation period is long enough that many people were traveling, unaware that they might be carriers.

What is even more perplexing is the fact that they keep telling you that the in the face of a bug that travels via air, you should wash hands. And do NOT wear masks!
So when primary way of contraction is mouth, nose and eyes... we need to focus and limit prevention to hand washing?
This is not diarrhea..

No logic, no science, no common sense.

THE WHOLE WORLD IS WEARING MASKS. WE ARE TOO COOL.
Yes do wash hands. But in addition.

If china is so praised for their actions then how come nobody told them masks are stupid.
AHA!...... maybe because without the masks they would not do as well?

This is from SARS wiki page similar disease, so when we limit prevention to hand washing it is lie we are bolting windows with plywood byt leave the door open to invasion?

Cause
The primary route of transmission for SARS is contact of the mucous membranes with respiratory droplets or fomites. Whilst diarrhea is common in people with SARS, the fecal-oral route does not appear to be a common mode of transmission

Google Amoy Gardens sometime...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me why it’s so perplexing to health officials that the woman in N. CA had no recent foreign travel or “known” contact with infected people? All she had to do was touch any surface that an infected person touched - I’m sure there are plenty of infected individuals in the US who are asymptomatic. Why do they actually assume they’ll find a clear connection? The incubation period is long enough that many people were traveling, unaware that they might be carriers.

What is even more perplexing is the fact that they keep telling you that the in the face of a bug that travels via air, you should wash hands. And do NOT wear masks!
So when primary way of contraction is mouth, nose and eyes... we need to focus and limit prevention to hand washing?
This is not diarrhea..

No logic, no science, no common sense.

THE WHOLE WORLD IS WEARING MASKS. WE ARE TOO COOL.
Yes do wash hands. But in addition.

If china is so praised for their actions then how come nobody told them masks are stupid.
AHA!...... maybe because without the masks they would not do as well?

Masks only help the infected not spread. It does nothing for the healthy.

That doesn’t make sense. Why wouldn’t it protect the healthy?

There was an article that totally contradicted itself — states that masks do nothing to help prevent spread, and in the next sentence said thatbuting them up will keep them from front line medical practitioners who really need them. Why would they need them if they were ineffective?

Regardless, I barely have any — they’re all sold out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me why it’s so perplexing to health officials that the woman in N. CA had no recent foreign travel or “known” contact with infected people? All she had to do was touch any surface that an infected person touched - I’m sure there are plenty of infected individuals in the US who are asymptomatic. Why do they actually assume they’ll find a clear connection? The incubation period is long enough that many people were traveling, unaware that they might be carriers.

What is even more perplexing is the fact that they keep telling you that the in the face of a bug that travels via air, you should wash hands. And do NOT wear masks!
So when primary way of contraction is mouth, nose and eyes... we need to focus and limit prevention to hand washing?
This is not diarrhea..

No logic, no science, no common sense.

THE WHOLE WORLD IS WEARING MASKS. WE ARE TOO COOL.
Yes do wash hands. But in addition.

If china is so praised for their actions then how come nobody told them masks are stupid.
AHA!...... maybe because without the masks they would not do as well?

Masks only help the infected not spread. It does nothing for the healthy.

That doesn’t make sense. Why wouldn’t it protect the healthy?

There was an article that totally contradicted itself — states that masks do nothing to help prevent spread, and in the next sentence said thatbuting them up will keep them from front line medical practitioners who really need them. Why would they need them if they were ineffective?

Regardless, I barely have any — they’re all sold out.

*buying* them out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me why it’s so perplexing to health officials that the woman in N. CA had no recent foreign travel or “known” contact with infected people? All she had to do was touch any surface that an infected person touched - I’m sure there are plenty of infected individuals in the US who are asymptomatic. Why do they actually assume they’ll find a clear connection? The incubation period is long enough that many people were traveling, unaware that they might be carriers.

What is even more perplexing is the fact that they keep telling you that the in the face of a bug that travels via air, you should wash hands. And do NOT wear masks!
So when primary way of contraction is mouth, nose and eyes... we need to focus and limit prevention to hand washing?
This is not diarrhea..

No logic, no science, no common sense.

THE WHOLE WORLD IS WEARING MASKS. WE ARE TOO COOL.
Yes do wash hands. But in addition.

If china is so praised for their actions then how come nobody told them masks are stupid.
AHA!...... maybe because without the masks they would not do as well?

Masks only help the infected not spread. It does nothing for the healthy.

Masks are 5x more effective than no masks in situations where you encounter someone with the virus (i.e. someone in your home or office, caring for someone, working in healthcare).
They are not effective walking down the street as your chances of getting it just randomly through droplets is rather minimal.

However, culturally, not wearing a mask in Asia is a sign of disrespect to the community as a whole, and in many situations, you will be refused entry to buildings, public transit or other facilities if you are not wearing a mask.

[Anonymous]

The "masks don't work" thing is predictable, and not a big deal.

It's basically true. Unless you wear them absolutely correctly and most people don't, wearing a mask won't keep you from getting sick. It might help a little bit but it isn't a sure thing so better to just maintain your distance from others if you can.

Masks will help keep you from spreading illness to other people.

So if EVERYONE in an area needs to go and be together somewhere, like in a grocery story, and EVERYONE is wearing a mask, it can help protect everyone because each person won't infect another person.

But just one person wearing a mask won't help that one person so much.

[Anonymous]

Love how Oregon said that the rumors they had a case of Coronavirus was false, and two days later they say never mind we actually we do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me why it’s so perplexing to health officials that the woman in N. CA had no recent foreign travel or “known” contact with infected people? All she had to do was touch any surface that an infected person touched - I’m sure there are plenty of infected individuals in the US who are asymptomatic. Why do they actually assume they’ll find a clear connection? The incubation period is long enough that many people were traveling, unaware that they might be carriers.

What is even more perplexing is the fact that they keep telling you that the in the face of a bug that travels via air, you should wash hands. And do NOT wear masks!
So when primary way of contraction is mouth, nose and eyes... we need to focus and limit prevention to hand washing?
This is not diarrhea..

No logic, no science, no common sense.

THE WHOLE WORLD IS WEARING MASKS. WE ARE TOO COOL.
Yes do wash hands. But in addition.

If china is so praised for their actions then how come nobody told them masks are stupid.
AHA!...... maybe because without the masks they would not do as well?

This is from SARS wiki page similar disease, so when we limit prevention to hand washing it is lie we are bolting windows with plywood byt leave the door open to invasion?

Cause
The primary route of transmission for SARS is contact of the mucous membranes with respiratory droplets or fomites. Whilst diarrhea is common in people with SARS, the fecal-oral route does not appear to be a common mode of transmission

Google Amoy Gardens sometime...

sewer gasses in apartment buildings/bathroom vents. GREEAAATTTT