Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

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Anonymous wrote:Gross! I am for sure a (lightweight) preppier but you will not find canned spaghetti or ravioli in my house!

My bunker is stocked with only Grey Poupon. All class.

PP here. I am not a snob. I have plenty of Barilla pasta and Wegmans jarred pasta sauce. But have you ever tasted Spaghettios??? Like since you have been an adult? I did once (was babysitting in college) and blech.

But a real prepper would point out that you need water and heat to make that into a meal. What if you have no water (to spare for boiling pasta), and no stove? That's why canned foods are king.

If Wuhan has water and electricity, we are going to have water and electricity.

I actually think China and Wuhan likely have it much more together when it comes to building and maintaining infrastructure than we do, as well as better mass communications, and more focus and willpower to direct resources in an emergency. China used more concrete in 3 years recently than the US used in the entire 20th century.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw an elderly person in mask and gloves shopping for groceries. It was strange n
And I felt bad for her. She was rushing around trying to do it as fast as she can. I hope she got what she wanted and can rest.

That is heartbreaking.

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Second case of unknown origin in Northern California - no connection to first case.

The patient is a 65-year-old person from Santa Clara County, with no known history of travel to places hit hard by the outbreak, and no contact with a known case of the virus. Santa Clara is about 90 miles from Solano County, where the first case of community transmission in the United States was confirmed this week.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/28/coronavirus-live-updates/

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Anonymous wrote:Second case of unknown origin in Northern California - no connection to first case.

The patient is a 65-year-old person from Santa Clara County, with no known history of travel to places hit hard by the outbreak, and no contact with a known case of the virus. Santa Clara is about 90 miles from Solano County, where the first case of community transmission in the United States was confirmed this week.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/28/coronavirus-live-updates/

Whelp, it’s over. Containment is impossible. Remember these people have been sick 3+ weeks to get to this point.

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Case Series of children with 2019 novel coronavirus infection: clinical and epidemiological features:

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa198/5766430

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The one person in California with the virus sounds young based on the description I heard. They mentioned her family and job site.

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Can someone please explain to me why it’s so perplexing to health officials that the woman in N. CA had no recent foreign travel or “known” contact with infected people? All she had to do was touch any surface that an infected person touched - I’m sure there are plenty of infected individuals in the US who are asymptomatic. Why do they actually assume they’ll find a clear connection? The incubation period is long enough that many people were traveling, unaware that they might be carriers.

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Walk into drugstore ... three small bottles of hand sand sanitizer left ... one of those nauseating smells. Self checkout broken ... woman ringing me up be touching her nose and so on.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?

I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.

Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.

Don’t buy into the smoking theories. Sure it makes one feel better I guess. The problem is no smokers vs non. It’s containing this virus

Are you a smoker by any chance?

I didn’t answer this thread but agree ppl have tried to find reasons to think they might be safe. The virus infects smoker and non a like. Ederly or not. How lucky are you? The only watt I manage luck is to plan for it. Planning and execution are both lack luster now? Is it easier to ban travel to and from certain areas in January or quarantine citizens here in March? Hmm

Damn if you do...
Imagine outcry for closing borders in January when we still have people coming from China TODAY...

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I wonder if the tourists in Hawaii toured California any. The timing seems right for cases to be popping up from that.

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CDC Just moved Italy to level 3 alert

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https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/warning/coronavirus-italy
So all abroad student programs will close.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me why it’s so perplexing to health officials that the woman in N. CA had no recent foreign travel or “known” contact with infected people? All she had to do was touch any surface that an infected person touched - I’m sure there are plenty of infected individuals in the US who are asymptomatic. Why do they actually assume they’ll find a clear connection? The incubation period is long enough that many people were traveling, unaware that they might be carriers.

What is even more perplexing is the fact that they keep telling you that the in the face of a bug that travels via air, you should wash hands. And do NOT wear masks!
So when primary way of contraction is mouth, nose and eyes... we need to focus and limit prevention to hand washing?
This is not diarrhea..

No logic, no science, no common sense.

THE WHOLE WORLD IS WEARING MASKS. WE ARE TOO COOL.
Yes do wash hands. But in addition.

If china is so praised for their actions then how come nobody told them masks are stupid.
AHA!...... maybe because without the masks they would not do as well?

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CDC Just moved Italy to level 3 alert

Dang.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me why it’s so perplexing to health officials that the woman in N. CA had no recent foreign travel or “known” contact with infected people? All she had to do was touch any surface that an infected person touched - I’m sure there are plenty of infected individuals in the US who are asymptomatic. Why do they actually assume they’ll find a clear connection? The incubation period is long enough that many people were traveling, unaware that they might be carriers.

What is even more perplexing is the fact that they keep telling you that the in the face of a bug that travels via air, you should wash hands. And do NOT wear masks!
So when primary way of contraction is mouth, nose and eyes... we need to focus and limit prevention to hand washing?
This is not diarrhea..

No logic, no science, no common sense.

THE WHOLE WORLD IS WEARING MASKS. WE ARE TOO COOL.
Yes do wash hands. But in addition.

If china is so praised for their actions then how come nobody told them masks are stupid.
AHA!...... maybe because without the masks they would not do as well?

Masks only help the infected not spread. It does nothing for the healthy.