What do we think will happen on Monday?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just went to APS forum to see what they are saying.

Zero debate on this topic and dead thread.

Try Moco County or MD School Forum or Other VA School Forum and they too are struggling.
Or you can just stick to what you want to see.

Sure but Maryland has a different set of conditions than we do. We’ve got a 40+ page active thread full of hand wringing and APS is relatively quiet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Moreover - in all my years on this site, FCPS parents have shown themselves to be the most self-important and aggrieved about school closures, often demanding openings when NO other district does and griping at length about legitimate closures. Yet this majority of this thread is commentary of people saying their streets aren’t passable, sidewalks are blocked, how will people drive in reduced lanes, etc etc. If THAT is the tenor of the postings here, those concerns are almost certainly broadly shared by the people who are liable for school transportation-related injuries or accidents and are in charge of determining when/if it’s safe to open.

You never know who is posting on here. Could be Gatehouse or teachers posing as parents who just want another day off.

Really, grow up. Teachers enjoy snow days like anyone else but most of us are also parents so we want our kids back in school as much as anyone else AND I don’t think any of us are enthused about the idea of closures and the cascade of issues that come from things that have to be shifted as a result continuing into another week. There’s federal and state testing going on, remediation and prep for state testing that is coming, school events that aren’t easily moved. It’s so dumb and juvenile to just pretend teachers sit on here pretending to be something they’re not.

No, teachers get unearned PTO and are not required to find childcare during snow days, or go to work regardless of the conditions. No other profession gets that. You don’t enjoy snow days “like anyone else” and so please check your privilege.

Boohoo. Get over yourself

Just remember when you start shrieking about teachers “fleeing the profession” is that the reason no one cares is posts like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We ar e buy Fox Mill ES. The roads are drivable, half the sidewalks have been shoveled, and the school looks good. But the cars that parked on the side of the street are still there and the two lanes of traffic turns into 1 1/2 lanes that people need to navigate. Toss in kids walking on the street because the side walks are not shoveled.

The problem we all have is that this is not going away in the next few weeks, it just isn’t. We are not going to close the school for three weeks waiting for sidewalks and streets to melt.

So what is the solution?

Anyone see Michelle Reid or her security guard out in their neighborhood shoveling the snowcrete?

She’s part of a community and should shoveling the neighborhoods out like the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just went to APS forum to see what they are saying.

Zero debate on this topic and dead thread.

That thread about APS was last updated yesterday afternoon. I’d hardly call that “zero debate.”

This kind of incident is horrible and increases in likelihood with the current one lane road situations.

April 28, 2005 ARLINGTON, Va. — Law agencies and transportation safety officials have begun investigations into the cause of an accident between a school bus and a trash hauler that left two students dead and injured 15 others last Monday.

According to The Washington Post, investigators closed the intersection where the accident took place for nearly four hours while trying to determine how the two vehicles were positioned at the time of the collision.

Police said sifting through the evidence and analyzing the results of the reenactment could take weeks or longer.

The collision killed 9-year-old Lilibeth Gomez, a third-grader at Hoffman-Boston Elementary School, instantly. Harrison Orosco, 7, died Wednesday at a local hospital from a severe head injury. The drivers of the two vehicles survived but required surgery for wounds they suffered in the collision.

There aren’t great solutions but hopefully everyone will be kinder to each other than they are on here tomorrow as the kiss and rides will be HORRIBLE!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moreover - in all my years on this site, FCPS parents have shown themselves to be the most self-important and aggrieved about school closures, often demanding openings when NO other district does and griping at length about legitimate closures. Yet this majority of this thread is commentary of people saying their streets aren’t passable, sidewalks are blocked, how will people drive in reduced lanes, etc etc. If THAT is the tenor of the postings here, those concerns are almost certainly broadly shared by the people who are liable for school transportation-related injuries or accidents and are in charge of determining when/if it’s safe to open.

You never know who is posting on here. Could be Gatehouse or teachers posing as parents who just want another day off.

Really, grow up. Teachers enjoy snow days like anyone else but most of us are also parents so we want our kids back in school as much as anyone else AND I don’t think any of us are enthused about the idea of closures and the cascade of issues that come from things that have to be shifted as a result continuing into another week. There’s federal and state testing going on, remediation and prep for state testing that is coming, school events that aren’t easily moved. It’s so dumb and juvenile to just pretend teachers sit on here pretending to be something they’re not.

No, teachers get unearned PTO and are not required to find childcare during snow days, or go to work regardless of the conditions. No other profession gets that. You don’t enjoy snow days “like anyone else” and so please check your privilege.

I’m a teacher in my 20s who lives with roommates who are all consultants who can work remote. My roommates worked less this snow week than I did lol.

So your roommates aren’t either of the referenced groups— parents responsible for finding childcare or people required to go to work. Check your privilege because you’re contributing to the narrative of entitlement.

Calm down. You said “no other profession” enjoyed the snow days so I just pointed out that some of the highest paid professions in the area let you work from home. It’s bonkers to try to dunk on teachers as some privileged class in Fairfax County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just went to APS forum to see what they are saying.

Zero debate on this topic and dead thread.

Try Moco County or MD School Forum or Other VA School Forum and they too are struggling.
Or you can just stick to what you want to see.

Sure but Maryland has a different set of conditions than we do. We’ve got a 40+ page active thread full of hand wringing and APS is relatively quiet.

The MoCo forum has a nearly identical thread that is 30 pages long. Given that MoCo is smaller than FCPS, I’d call it even:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/435/1311892.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moreover - in all my years on this site, FCPS parents have shown themselves to be the most self-important and aggrieved about school closures, often demanding openings when NO other district does and griping at length about legitimate closures. Yet this majority of this thread is commentary of people saying their streets aren’t passable, sidewalks are blocked, how will people drive in reduced lanes, etc etc. If THAT is the tenor of the postings here, those concerns are almost certainly broadly shared by the people who are liable for school transportation-related injuries or accidents and are in charge of determining when/if it’s safe to open.

You never know who is posting on here. Could be Gatehouse or teachers posing as parents who just want another day off.

Really, grow up. Teachers enjoy snow days like anyone else but most of us are also parents so we want our kids back in school as much as anyone else AND I don’t think any of us are enthused about the idea of closures and the cascade of issues that come from things that have to be shifted as a result continuing into another week. There’s federal and state testing going on, remediation and prep for state testing that is coming, school events that aren’t easily moved. It’s so dumb and juvenile to just pretend teachers sit on here pretending to be something they’re not.

No, teachers get unearned PTO and are not required to find childcare during snow days, or go to work regardless of the conditions. No other profession gets that. You don’t enjoy snow days “like anyone else” and so please check your privilege.

Federal workers get paid when the government is closed due to weather. Contractors don’t but the Fed do, they lve it. Plenty of people in our area enjoy snow days when things are officially closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moreover - in all my years on this site, FCPS parents have shown themselves to be the most self-important and aggrieved about school closures, often demanding openings when NO other district does and griping at length about legitimate closures. Yet this majority of this thread is commentary of people saying their streets aren’t passable, sidewalks are blocked, how will people drive in reduced lanes, etc etc. If THAT is the tenor of the postings here, those concerns are almost certainly broadly shared by the people who are liable for school transportation-related injuries or accidents and are in charge of determining when/if it’s safe to open.

You never know who is posting on here. Could be Gatehouse or teachers posing as parents who just want another day off.

Really, grow up. Teachers enjoy snow days like anyone else but most of us are also parents so we want our kids back in school as much as anyone else AND I don’t think any of us are enthused about the idea of closures and the cascade of issues that come from things that have to be shifted as a result continuing into another week. There’s federal and state testing going on, remediation and prep for state testing that is coming, school events that aren’t easily moved. It’s so dumb and juvenile to just pretend teachers sit on here pretending to be something they’re not.

No, teachers get unearned PTO and are not required to find childcare during snow days, or go to work regardless of the conditions. No other profession gets that. You don’t enjoy snow days “like anyone else” and so please check your privilege.

I’m a teacher in my 20s who lives with roommates who are all consultants who can work remote. My roommates worked less this snow week than I did lol.

So your roommates aren’t either of the referenced groups— parents responsible for finding childcare or people required to go to work. Check your privilege because you’re contributing to the narrative of entitlement.

Calm down. You said “no other profession” enjoyed the snow days so I just pointed out that some of the highest paid professions in the area let you work from home. It’s bonkers to try to dunk on teachers as some privileged class in Fairfax County.

When it comes to wanting schools closed, teachers are a privileged class. They get to stay home and get paid for doing nothing!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moreover - in all my years on this site, FCPS parents have shown themselves to be the most self-important and aggrieved about school closures, often demanding openings when NO other district does and griping at length about legitimate closures. Yet this majority of this thread is commentary of people saying their streets aren’t passable, sidewalks are blocked, how will people drive in reduced lanes, etc etc. If THAT is the tenor of the postings here, those concerns are almost certainly broadly shared by the people who are liable for school transportation-related injuries or accidents and are in charge of determining when/if it’s safe to open.

You never know who is posting on here. Could be Gatehouse or teachers posing as parents who just want another day off.

Really, grow up. Teachers enjoy snow days like anyone else but most of us are also parents so we want our kids back in school as much as anyone else AND I don’t think any of us are enthused about the idea of closures and the cascade of issues that come from things that have to be shifted as a result continuing into another week. There’s federal and state testing going on, remediation and prep for state testing that is coming, school events that aren’t easily moved. It’s so dumb and juvenile to just pretend teachers sit on here pretending to be something they’re not.

No, teachers get unearned PTO and are not required to find childcare during snow days, or go to work regardless of the conditions. No other profession gets that. You don’t enjoy snow days “like anyone else” and so please check your privilege.

I’m a teacher in my 20s who lives with roommates who are all consultants who can work remote. My roommates worked less this snow week than I did lol.

So your roommates aren’t either of the referenced groups— parents responsible for finding childcare or people required to go to work. Check your privilege because you’re contributing to the narrative of entitlement.

Stop slinging the word privilege around. It’s old and tired. Get over your obstacles and find some resilience instead of finger pointing at someone because their obstacles and advantages are different from yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:2 hour delay is almost certain for Monday, probably Tuesday as well. I doubt FCPS will be closed b/c of the PR problem, though I do worry about people getting hurt as the volume of people trying to navigate the snowcrete increases and more students (including youngkids walking/waiting for buses in the streets AND teen drivers) are out in the mix. Would be safest to stay closed Mon, delay opening Tues, and hope the increased temps make things safe from then on.

Whenever people say this it’s clear they think every FCPS family is a 2-parent home where one parent can reasonably miss work to drive their kids or wait with their kids at bus stops.

I don’t think we should keep schools closed/shortened so parents can avoid, you know, parenting. If its not safe for a teen to drive, the teens parents need to say they can’t drive and bring the kid to school themselves. If the bus stop is blocked parents need to either drive the kids or wait with them.

For all saying FCPS will get sued remember VA has contributory negligence.

I actually think in some cases extended closures or 2 hour delays are less safe for the kids. As a working parent, I know I am already burning a ton of leave on all the random holidays. I imagine a lot of parents in the low income areas are going to have to leave their kids alone to figure it out so they can get to work on time, keep their job and continue to put food on the table.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just went to APS forum to see what they are saying.

Zero debate on this topic and dead thread.

Try Moco County or MD School Forum or Other VA School Forum and they too are struggling.
Or you can just stick to what you want to see.

Sure but Maryland has a different set of conditions than we do. We’ve got a 40+ page active thread full of hand wringing and APS is relatively quiet.

If you read Other VA Schools, you'd see LCPS (and PWC) are struggling too.

I wouldn't blankly say there's "zero debate" among surrounding counties

[Anonymous]

The best thing fcps could do is just let us know right away today.
Kids and families need to plan and dragging out the decision until late afternoon or evening sucks on their part.
They have all the info they need.
It’s an another frigid day so nothing much changing for sidewalks and neighborhood streets.

However we can all see on our weather apps that we’re gonna get some days above freezing this week hallelujah. That will improve things gradually.

I think we’ll get back to fulls days this week but imo it’s gotta be a delay tomorrow.
But for F’s sake just let us know asap so can go about our Sunday knowing what the morning will look like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just went to APS forum to see what they are saying.

Zero debate on this topic and dead thread.

That thread about APS was last updated yesterday afternoon. I’d hardly call that “zero debate.”

This kind of incident is horrible and increases in likelihood with the current one lane road situations.

April 28, 2005 ARLINGTON, Va. — Law agencies and transportation safety officials have begun investigations into the cause of an accident between a school bus and a trash hauler that left two students dead and injured 15 others last Monday.

According to The Washington Post, investigators closed the intersection where the accident took place for nearly four hours while trying to determine how the two vehicles were positioned at the time of the collision.

Police said sifting through the evidence and analyzing the results of the reenactment could take weeks or longer.

The collision killed 9-year-old Lilibeth Gomez, a third-grader at Hoffman-Boston Elementary School, instantly. Harrison Orosco, 7, died Wednesday at a local hospital from a severe head injury. The drivers of the two vehicles survived but required surgery for wounds they suffered in the collision.

There aren’t great solutions but hopefully everyone will be kinder to each other than they are on here tomorrow as the kiss and rides will be HORRIBLE!

Really? An article from 2005 about a dead child. A new low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The best thing fcps could do is just let us know right away today.
Kids and families need to plan and dragging out the decision until late afternoon or evening sucks on their part.
They have all the info they need.
It’s an another frigid day so nothing much changing for sidewalks and neighborhood streets.

However we can all see on our weather apps that we’re gonna get some days above freezing this week hallelujah. That will improve things gradually.

I think we’ll get back to fulls days this week but imo it’s gotta be a delay tomorrow.
But for F’s sake just let us know asap so can go about our Sunday knowing what the morning will look like.

+1 million

They know what they’re going to do. Just get on with it instead of the hand wringing pretense.

[Anonymous]

At least with a 2hr delay the traffic will be a bit more staggered. The current roads can't handle the normal heavy rush hour with disappearing merge lanes, 1/2 cleared turn lanes, no shoulders, and pedestrians forced to walk in streets.