Will Trump drop Vance?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:He’s only 39, so he grew up with Facebook and camera phones, yet no history of any women before his wife? This sounds like an arranged marriage.


Eh. I only had one serious relationship before my husband (and same for him) and I’m not gay or in an arranged marriage. Though I wouldn’t care if either were true for Vance. I care about his policies and misogyny, not who he’s slept with.


Experience matters though—nothing about Trump's personal history suggests he has any understanding of how most Americans view family, sexuality or relationships. Given that, if Trump is elected, Vance will likely be sworn in as president by spring of 2026, it matters if he is the same.
Anonymous
Monica Hesse wrote a very balanced opinion piece in the WaPo about Vance’s domestic violence comment. Here is the link if interested:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/07/25/jd-vance-marriage-abuse-comment/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Monica Hesse wrote a very balanced opinion piece in the WaPo about Vance’s domestic violence comment. Here is the link if interested:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/07/25/jd-vance-marriage-abuse-comment/



OP here— for those who are interested in digging deeper and not just accepting sound bites lobbed around on social media.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Monica Hesse wrote a very balanced opinion piece in the WaPo about Vance’s domestic violence comment. Here is the link if interested:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/07/25/jd-vance-marriage-abuse-comment/



OP here— for those who are interested in digging deeper and not just accepting sound bites lobbed around on social media.


It's a long rambling article that can be summed up in these 2 sentences towards the end:

"The short answer is that he didn’t.

The longer answer is that he did, in the sense that women represent one-half of the heterosexual couples that he was jointly sentencing to misery."
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Trump is measuring VP candidates against Jan 6. He doesn’t want another Pence who will not help him overthrow the government to do what he wants. He knows Haley would vote to 25th amendment him five seconds after being sworn in. She’s ambitious and a snake.

Carson is BORING. Talk about bad TV. Carson does nothing for the Blue Wall states. Carson will not attract black men the same way Sarah Palin didn’t attract white women.


Yeah, I don't understand the talk about Carson on here.


Do you understand why Trump picked Vance? I mean, none of this makes sense.


Sort of. Especially with the Biden/Harris ticket. He's young, just won a Senate seat, wrote a bestseller. He's a veteran. His wife is of Indian descent so that checks the, see we're not racist box. He's from Ohio and sort of Kentucky, so you have the Midwest and Southern tie in.


Best seller lists are fake, especially when you’re a media and think tank creation. Very few people in real life read this Sackler crisis PR & open border propaganda rubbish.


I’m generally skeptical of bestseller #s for politicians — although they are harder to manipulate than most people assume, it’s not impossible to game them. But I know tons of people who bought and read Hillbilly Elegy when it came out. I even remember standing in very long hotel registration line at a big conference and seeing two unrelated individuals reading it as they waited.

I never read it — something about it always smelled a little off to me — but back then it was promised as the book that would explain America to anyone who was surprised by Trump’s victory.

I detest JD — he’s a creepy, shapeshifting, incel-adjacent thirstyboy. I also suspect his wife had far more to do with the content of his book than anyone realizes. But it would surprise me if the book isn’t a legit bestseller.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump is measuring VP candidates against Jan 6. He doesn’t want another Pence who will not help him overthrow the government to do what he wants. He knows Haley would vote to 25th amendment him five seconds after being sworn in. She’s ambitious and a snake.

Carson is BORING. Talk about bad TV. Carson does nothing for the Blue Wall states. Carson will not attract black men the same way Sarah Palin didn’t attract white women.


Yeah, I don't understand the talk about Carson on here.


Do you understand why Trump picked Vance? I mean, none of this makes sense.


Sort of. Especially with the Biden/Harris ticket. He's young, just won a Senate seat, wrote a bestseller. He's a veteran. His wife is of Indian descent so that checks the, see we're not racist box. He's from Ohio and sort of Kentucky, so you have the Midwest and Southern tie in.


Best seller lists are fake, especially when you’re a media and think tank creation. Very few people in real life read this Sackler crisis PR & open border propaganda rubbish.


And let's all be quite clear that the Republicans have played a huge role in not letting anything get done about the border.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump is measuring VP candidates against Jan 6. He doesn’t want another Pence who will not help him overthrow the government to do what he wants. He knows Haley would vote to 25th amendment him five seconds after being sworn in. She’s ambitious and a snake.

Carson is BORING. Talk about bad TV. Carson does nothing for the Blue Wall states. Carson will not attract black men the same way Sarah Palin didn’t attract white women.


Yeah, I don't understand the talk about Carson on here.


Do you understand why Trump picked Vance? I mean, none of this makes sense.


Sort of. Especially with the Biden/Harris ticket. He's young, just won a Senate seat, wrote a bestseller. He's a veteran. His wife is of Indian descent so that checks the, see we're not racist box. He's from Ohio and sort of Kentucky, so you have the Midwest and Southern tie in.


Best seller lists are fake, especially when you’re a media and think tank creation. Very few people in real life read this Sackler crisis PR & open border propaganda rubbish.


And let's all be quite clear that the Republicans have played a huge role in not letting anything get done about the border.



During Biden's term in office, Democrats tried to introduce almost 300 pieces of legislation to improve border security, crack down on human trafficking and smuggling. With Republicans controlling the House, the only things that were passed were provisions included in appropriations bills that only got passed to prevent a government shutdown.

https://www.congress.gov/search?q=%7B%22source%22%3A%22legislation%22%2C%22search%22%3A%22%5C%22border+security%5C%22%22%2C%22party%22%3A%22Democratic%22%2C%22congress%22%3A%5B%22118%22%2C%22117%22%5D%7D
Anonymous
It just gets worse by the day with this guy. I sometimes think this was an inside job to tank Trump so the GOP could be rid of the Maga stuff.

But in reality I just think they were too confident thinking they had the election in the bag and the VP pick didn't matter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Monica Hesse wrote a very balanced opinion piece in the WaPo about Vance’s domestic violence comment. Here is the link if interested:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/07/25/jd-vance-marriage-abuse-comment/

Vance’s full comment* is damning but Monica Hesse really shows how slippery and disgusting Vance is. Hesse gives all the context of how both men and women experience domestic abuse, but that women victims get more serious abuse - choked, beaten up, raped, threatened with guns and women are far more likely to be murdered by their intimate partners. PP is right. Everyone should read this article. I took from it that the GOP is happy to dog whistle that abuse is NBD in the context of the far right wanting total control over women’s lives.

*“This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is the idea that, like, ‘Well, okay, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that’s going to make people happier in the long term.’” He went on to speculate that, “maybe it worked out for the moms and dads, though I’m skeptical. But it really didn’t work out for the kids of those marriages.”
Anonymous
The man's ability and judgement as far as selecting VPs ( and everything else for that matter) is seriously flawed. Mike Pence and now JD Vance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It just gets worse by the day with this guy. I sometimes think this was an inside job to tank Trump so the GOP could be rid of the Maga stuff.

But in reality I just think they were too confident thinking they had the election in the bag and the VP pick didn't matter.

It’s your second paragraph. They were planning on winning so strong with White men that they wouldn’t need to build coalitions or anything else.
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Just leaving this here -
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Monica Hesse wrote a very balanced opinion piece in the WaPo about Vance’s domestic violence comment. Here is the link if interested:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/07/25/jd-vance-marriage-abuse-comment/

Vance’s full comment* is damning but Monica Hesse really shows how slippery and disgusting Vance is. Hesse gives all the context of how both men and women experience domestic abuse, but that women victims get more serious abuse - choked, beaten up, raped, threatened with guns and women are far more likely to be murdered by their intimate partners. PP is right. Everyone should read this article. I took from it that the GOP is happy to dog whistle that abuse is NBD in the context of the far right wanting total control over women’s lives.

*“This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is the idea that, like, ‘Well, okay, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that’s going to make people happier in the long term.’” He went on to speculate that, “maybe it worked out for the moms and dads, though I’m skeptical. But it really didn’t work out for the kids of those marriages.”


I read it differently. My takeaway was that Vance was a victim of DV as a child and in his talk was differentiating between blatant physical abuse and more subtle types that might benefit from treatment like couples counsels.

Vance himself was subjected to physical abuse.
Anonymous
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More evidence that the left can’t meme.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Just leaving this here -


More evidence that the left can’t meme.


The "I know you are but what am I?" defense. Very convincing.
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