Billionaire heiress abducted during her Friday morning run in Memphis

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Anonymous wrote:My sister about 20 years ago was mugged running around her college campus early in the morning. The city police quite literally blamed her, were openly mocking her for being so stupid, and told her to stop running alone and so early unless she had a death wish.

The only reason this is getting the press it is and the law enforcement manpower (on a holiday weekend they immediately ran DNA on his shoes!) is because her family is filthy rich and politically connected. Otherwise these apathetic city police departments wouldn’t give a damn. There are probably hundreds of missing women in that region who didn’t get even 1% of this sort of response.

Hopefully, other women will take note of those statistics.

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Anonymous wrote:Within Tennessee, more than 100% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Memphis. In fact, after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout found Memphis to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S.A.

My oldest son works in logistics and they advise truckers not to stop in Memphis. It’s THAT bad.

NP - I really had no idea, wow. Is it mostly property crime, or violent crime? (Or both?) And why there ?

Here are a few crime stats for Memphis in 2021:
1. Ranked the No. 1 most dangerous city in US
2. Ranked 2nd highest homicide rate in any US metro area
3. Memphis violent crime was 237% higher than the national average
4. Violent crimes in Memphis are 506% higher than the national average
5. Nearly 250 murders, half unsolved

Husband is a real gentleman for letting his wife run around such a town solo at 4 a.m.

Wow, those crime stats are shocking.

Especially how the violent crime in Memphis is simultaneously 237% and 506% higher than the national average.

You’re right. A typo must mean it’s Russian disinformation and Memphis is actually a charming safe community.

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Anonymous wrote:My sister about 20 years ago was mugged running around her college campus early in the morning. The city police quite literally blamed her, were openly mocking her for being so stupid, and told her to stop running alone and so early unless she had a death wish.

The only reason this is getting the press it is and the law enforcement manpower (on a holiday weekend they immediately ran DNA on his shoes!) is because her family is filthy rich and politically connected. Otherwise these apathetic city police departments wouldn’t give a damn. There are probably hundreds of missing women in that region who didn’t get even 1% of this sort of response.

And for those saying b-but it was on camera, that’s why there’s this manpower: City cops don’t even bother checking camera footage for most crimes. They do not care. If this was a poor person they’d tell the family to call them next week if she still doesn’t show.

Especially if the family said she was “jogging” at 4am. Police would assume this was spin for druggy or prostitute.

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Anonymous wrote:My sister about 20 years ago was mugged running around her college campus early in the morning. The city police quite literally blamed her, were openly mocking her for being so stupid, and told her to stop running alone and so early unless she had a death wish.

The only reason this is getting the press it is and the law enforcement manpower (on a holiday weekend they immediately ran DNA on his shoes!) is because her family is filthy rich and politically connected. Otherwise these apathetic city police departments wouldn’t give a damn. There are probably hundreds of missing women in that region who didn’t get even 1% of this sort of response.

And for those saying b-but it was on camera, that’s why there’s this manpower: City cops don’t even bother checking camera footage for most crimes. They do not care. If this was a poor person they’d tell the family to call them next week if she still doesn’t show.

Especially if the family said she was “jogging” at 4am. Police would assume this was spin for druggy or prostitute.

I think they would consider the lifestyle of the victim before assuming the missing person was a druggy or prostitute.

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Someone said she could have just run at the multi million dollar D1 university. Please let me know what university allows non students to use their facilities. If they did, imagine the complaints on the college board from the harpies here.

I can go onto any public college campus (George Mason, for example) and run there, on the campus. No one’s going to say anything.

She ran outside, on sidewalks. She didn’t need a treadmill.

You can’t use their indoor training facility which is what other pp was referring to. Yes we all know you can run outside on campuses.

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Anonymous wrote:1. k-12 at Hutchison: $300k
2. bachelor's at Baylor: $250k
3. master's at Belmont: $100k

A Southern elite with $650k+ in private education and she's only a pre-K "teacher" at age 34? Anyone in education knows pre-K isn't actually a teacher and you certainly don't need $650k in credentials to do it. Something very odd about all of this, especially how a gal like this even lets a man like him orbit her.

Whether she's a preK or kindergarten teacher (I've heard both), i cannot believe you made such a critical condescending comment. We should be glad to have and encourage well-educated teachers at all grade levels. If she doesn't need a high-paying job, what's it to you? Many people love teaching young children.

She presumably didn’t meet her husband until her late 20s and didn’t have children until around age 30. So she’s been a pre-K teacher for 10 years (since age 23 or 24 after getting her master’s in Nashville), well before marriage and kids came into the picture, and hasn’t advanced? It’s a bit strange.

hardly. princess diana was a preschool teacher aide before marrying. definitely one of the paths of young women w/established family money who are basically waiting to get married.

You proved my point. Diana was a teenage pre-k teacher. Diana married at year 20. This year 34 gal has elite diploma, bachelor’s and master’s degrees, and she’s doing a job she’s overqualified for.

Maybe she likes the job? If she was happy why did she have to chase the paycheck?

Sure. Or maybe there’s some there there. All of the pre-k teachers I know are fresh out of undergrad and do it for a year or two.

And those i know make a career out of it and don’t do it for the money because they are already wealthy. They like the hours and like kids. Imagine that.

I know two preschool teachers old enough to collect Social Security. They continue to teach because they love the kids and helping them learn and prepare for kindergarten. PP is ridiculous.

My son’s preschool teacher was a multi-millionaire (prominent family, $2 mn dollar home in DC.) she taught because she liked little kids and wanted to help them grow

Yep. My Uncle owns a prominent law firm worth mega mega bucks and my Aunt has worked as a reading teacher for little kids at the local school for decades.

If she were a SAHM, no one would bat an eye. God forbid she want to work at a lower paying job though!

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Anonymous wrote:1. k-12 at Hutchison: $300k
2. bachelor's at Baylor: $250k
3. master's at Belmont: $100k

A Southern elite with $650k+ in private education and she's only a pre-K "teacher" at age 34? Anyone in education knows pre-K isn't actually a teacher and you certainly don't need $650k in credentials to do it. Something very odd about all of this, especially how a gal like this even lets a man like him orbit her.

Whether she's a preK or kindergarten teacher (I've heard both), i cannot believe you made such a critical condescending comment. We should be glad to have and encourage well-educated teachers at all grade levels. If she doesn't need a high-paying job, what's it to you? Many people love teaching young children.

She presumably didn’t meet her husband until her late 20s and didn’t have children until around age 30. So she’s been a pre-K teacher for 10 years (since age 23 or 24 after getting her master’s in Nashville), well before marriage and kids came into the picture, and hasn’t advanced? It’s a bit strange.

hardly. princess diana was a preschool teacher aide before marrying. definitely one of the paths of young women w/established family money who are basically waiting to get married.

You proved my point. Diana was a teenage pre-k teacher. Diana married at year 20. This year 34 gal has elite diploma, bachelor’s and master’s degrees, and she’s doing a job she’s overqualified for.

Maybe she likes the job? If she was happy why did she have to chase the paycheck?

Sure. Or maybe there’s some there there. All of the pre-k teachers I know are fresh out of undergrad and do it for a year or two.

And those i know make a career out of it and don’t do it for the money because they are already wealthy. They like the hours and like kids. Imagine that.

I know two preschool teachers old enough to collect Social Security. They continue to teach because they love the kids and helping them learn and prepare for kindergarten. PP is ridiculous.

My son’s preschool teacher was a multi-millionaire (prominent family, $2 mn dollar home in DC.) she taught because she liked little kids and wanted to help them grow

Yep. My Uncle owns a prominent law firm worth mega mega bucks and my Aunt has worked as a reading teacher for little kids at the local school for decades.

If she were a SAHM, no one would bat an eye. God forbid she want to work at a lower paying job though!

Many of us admire her for it and wish so much that this heinous crime didn't happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Within Tennessee, more than 100% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Memphis. In fact, after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout found Memphis to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S.A.

My oldest son works in logistics and they advise truckers not to stop in Memphis. It’s THAT bad.

NP - I really had no idea, wow. Is it mostly property crime, or violent crime? (Or both?) And why there ?

Here are a few crime stats for Memphis in 2021:
1. Ranked the No. 1 most dangerous city in US
2. Ranked 2nd highest homicide rate in any US metro area
3. Memphis violent crime was 237% higher than the national average
4. Violent crimes in Memphis are 506% higher than the national average
5. Nearly 250 murders, half unsolved

Husband is a real gentleman for letting his wife run around such a town solo at 4 a.m.

Wow, those crime stats are shocking.

Especially how the violent crime in Memphis is simultaneously 237% and 506% higher than the national average.

You’re right. A typo must mean it’s Russian disinformation and Memphis is actually a charming safe community.

Right, because that’s what I said.

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She's only an heiress if she inherited, or stands to inherit, money or position from her relatives.

On a different note, the company was relatively small for a long time. Revenue today is $3 billion but was $200 million in 1990. Through the seventies and most of the eighties it averaged about half that. Given the low margins in distribution and the low margins in hardware, we can assume this business has never thrown off a lot of cash. I would guess before the company's growth rate increased in the nineties, the company averaged about $3 million in distributable cash each year to its owners. And because the company was founded in 1847, there were probably a lot of owners splitting that.

Although the company grew 20x from the nineties until today, growth is costly, particularly for a distributor which can only grow by increasing inventory and service levels. In a low margin business, increasing inventory means tying up lots of cash. We can conclude that over the last thirty years, the owners decided to invest cash back into the business instead of taking it out in the form of distributions to owners. (It's also possible the company used debt to grow while maintaining payouts to owners, which would factor in to the next part).

Assuming the company is debt-free, the entire thing is worth about $2.5 billion today. But of course none of that is not liquid. I would guess all owners combined take out a total of at most about $20 million per year on a pre-tax basis (substantially all the cash has to be reinvested in the business in order to maintain rapid growth). Whether or not our 'heiress' gets any of those distirbutions depends on whether or not she was given an ownership stake in the business.

But until the business is sold, there is no way for any owners or so-called heirs to get money from the business outside of declared dividends.

Another source of potential wealth for Eliza would be anything left to her directly from her grandfather's estate. Presumably he saved and reinvested his distributions from the business over the decades and those in turn were distributed when his estate settled. However, given that she married her deadbeat loser husband about five year before he died, I would guess that the husband has zero financial incentive to have her dead because something tells me gramps locked that sh*t down when he saw she was marrying outside the family caste to a dude with dirty tats. She was worth far more alive than dead to him and it's not clear how much, if any, money was coming to her since there were no billions lying around.

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Anonymous wrote:Within Tennessee, more than 100% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Memphis. In fact, after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout found Memphis to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S.A.

My oldest son works in logistics and they advise truckers not to stop in Memphis. It’s THAT bad.

NP - I really had no idea, wow. Is it mostly property crime, or violent crime? (Or both?) And why there ?

Here are a few crime stats for Memphis in 2021:
1. Ranked the No. 1 most dangerous city in US
2. Ranked 2nd highest homicide rate in any US metro area
3. Memphis violent crime was 237% higher than the national average
4. Violent crimes in Memphis are 506% higher than the national average
5. Nearly 250 murders, half unsolved

Husband is a real gentleman for letting his wife run around such a town solo at 4 a.m.

Men do not control adult women. At least not in healthy relationships.

Why do you people keep saying he should have kept her inside, let she was his pet or CHILD?!

Because she’s not single. She’s married. And that means he gets to have an opinion about her activities, just as she gets to have one about his.

Maybe he agreed with it? What does it matter?

A husband has a duty to PROTECT his wife and children from harm. It’s not like he was away on a business trip, he’s a tattooed layabout who is home every morning and watched his wife leave at 4am solo to roam the streets of a war zone with practically no clothes on. The husband is a lowlife.

War zone? Wtf are you even talking about. Roaming the streets? No she was RUNNING!!

Running outfits are practically no clothes?

He was probably asleep when she left so he wasn’t watching her leave.

What is this anti tattoo slant on here.

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Anonymous wrote:Within Tennessee, more than 100% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Memphis. In fact, after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout found Memphis to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S.A.

My oldest son works in logistics and they advise truckers not to stop in Memphis. It’s THAT bad.

NP - I really had no idea, wow. Is it mostly property crime, or violent crime? (Or both?) And why there ?

Here are a few crime stats for Memphis in 2021:
1. Ranked the No. 1 most dangerous city in US
2. Ranked 2nd highest homicide rate in any US metro area
3. Memphis violent crime was 237% higher than the national average
4. Violent crimes in Memphis are 506% higher than the national average
5. Nearly 250 murders, half unsolved

Husband is a real gentleman for letting his wife run around such a town solo at 4 a.m.

Men do not control adult women. At least not in healthy relationships.

Why do you people keep saying he should have kept her inside, let she was his pet or CHILD?!

Because she’s not single. She’s married. And that means he gets to have an opinion about her activities, just as she gets to have one about his.

Maybe he agreed with it? What does it matter?

A husband has a duty to PROTECT his wife and children from harm. It’s not like he was away on a business trip, he’s a tattooed layabout who is home every morning and watched his wife leave at 4am solo to roam the streets of a war zone with practically no clothes on. The husband is a lowlife.

Should he keep her in a box under the bed? Maybe you want to be controlled like the simpleton you are, but many of us don't need or want our husband's permission to do anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Within Tennessee, more than 100% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Memphis. In fact, after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout found Memphis to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S.A.

My oldest son works in logistics and they advise truckers not to stop in Memphis. It’s THAT bad.

NP - I really had no idea, wow. Is it mostly property crime, or violent crime? (Or both?) And why there ?

Here are a few crime stats for Memphis in 2021:
1. Ranked the No. 1 most dangerous city in US
2. Ranked 2nd highest homicide rate in any US metro area
3. Memphis violent crime was 237% higher than the national average
4. Violent crimes in Memphis are 506% higher than the national average
5. Nearly 250 murders, half unsolved

Husband is a real gentleman for letting his wife run around such a town solo at 4 a.m.

Men do not control adult women. At least not in healthy relationships.

Why do you people keep saying he should have kept her inside, let she was his pet or CHILD?!

Because she’s not single. She’s married. And that means he gets to have an opinion about her activities, just as she gets to have one about his.

Maybe he agreed with it? What does it matter?

A husband has a duty to PROTECT his wife and children from harm. It’s not like he was away on a business trip, he’s a tattooed layabout who is home every morning and watched his wife leave at 4am solo to roam the streets of a war zone with practically no clothes on. The husband is a lowlife.

War zone? Wtf are you even talking about. Roaming the streets? No she was RUNNING!!

Running outfits are practically no clothes?

He was probably asleep when she left so he wasn’t watching her leave.

What is this anti tattoo slant on here.

Thousands of ODs a year, countless shootings, most cars ignore traffic laws, and over 300 homicides is in fact a war zone.

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Anonymous wrote:Within Tennessee, more than 100% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Memphis. In fact, after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout found Memphis to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S.A.

My oldest son works in logistics and they advise truckers not to stop in Memphis. It’s THAT bad.

NP - I really had no idea, wow. Is it mostly property crime, or violent crime? (Or both?) And why there ?

Here are a few crime stats for Memphis in 2021:
1. Ranked the No. 1 most dangerous city in US
2. Ranked 2nd highest homicide rate in any US metro area
3. Memphis violent crime was 237% higher than the national average
4. Violent crimes in Memphis are 506% higher than the national average
5. Nearly 250 murders, half unsolved

Husband is a real gentleman for letting his wife run around such a town solo at 4 a.m.

Men do not control adult women. At least not in healthy relationships.

Why do you people keep saying he should have kept her inside, let she was his pet or CHILD?!

Because she’s not single. She’s married. And that means he gets to have an opinion about her activities, just as she gets to have one about his.

Maybe he agreed with it? What does it matter?

A husband has a duty to PROTECT his wife and children from harm. It’s not like he was away on a business trip, he’s a tattooed layabout who is home every morning and watched his wife leave at 4am solo to roam the streets of a war zone with practically no clothes on. The husband is a lowlife.

War zone? Wtf are you even talking about. Roaming the streets? No she was RUNNING!!

Running outfits are practically no clothes?

He was probably asleep when she left so he wasn’t watching her leave.

What is this anti tattoo slant on here.

Thousands of ODs a year, countless shootings, most cars ignore traffic laws, and over 300 homicides annually is in fact a war zone.

…and violent unpredictable ex cons like this kidnapping perp lurking around every other block. It’s a hellhole.

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Anonymous wrote:My sister about 20 years ago was mugged running around her college campus early in the morning. The city police quite literally blamed her, were openly mocking her for being so stupid, and told her to stop running alone and so early unless she had a death wish.

The only reason this is getting the press it is and the law enforcement manpower (on a holiday weekend they immediately ran DNA on his shoes!) is because her family is filthy rich and politically connected. Otherwise these apathetic city police departments wouldn’t give a damn. There are probably hundreds of missing women in that region who didn’t get even 1% of this sort of response.

And for those saying b-but it was on camera, that’s why there’s this manpower: City cops don’t even bother checking camera footage for most crimes. They do not care. If this was a poor person they’d tell the family to call them next week if she still doesn’t show.

Especially if the family said she was “jogging” at 4am. Police would assume this was spin for druggy or prostitute.

But according to the rules here they never should have been out at 4am for any reason, so they had it coming, right? Why didn't their husbands keep them home? Not sure what the point of all this grousing is. The cops did their job, and you're mad. The cops don't do their job and you're mad. There's no pleasing some of you.

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Very eerie that she loved to listen to crime podcasts, presumably while jogging. She was either not raised to understand the realities of the world or she knew full well she was running around a dangerous town and it was thrilling.