Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

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So two new cases added to the US total. Cruise? New? Can’t find any information it.

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Anonymous wrote:So two new cases added to the US total. Cruise? New? Can’t find any information it.

From the Diamond Princess.

Here are the new totals:
44 people who were aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship
3 people repatriated from China
15 US cases

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Anonymous wrote:So two new cases added to the US total. Cruise? New? Can’t find any information it.

From the Diamond Princess.

Here are the new totals:
44 people who were aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship
3 people repatriated from China
15 US cases

But that doesn’t make sense. There were 44 cases from the cruise yesterday. This morning the total was at 60, we are now at 62.

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Anonymous wrote:So two new cases added to the US total. Cruise? New? Can’t find any information it.

From the Diamond Princess.

Here are the new totals:
44 people who were aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship
3 people repatriated from China
15 US cases

But that doesn’t make sense. There were 44 cases from the cruise yesterday. This morning the total was at 60, we are now at 62.

+1
You are right the numbers don’t add up. I did a quick google search but could not find anything on those new cases added today.

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Anonymous wrote:Gross! I am for sure a (lightweight) preppier but you will not find canned spaghetti or ravioli in my house!

My bunker is stocked with only Grey Poupon. All class.

PP here. I am not a snob. I have plenty of Barilla pasta and Wegmans jarred pasta sauce. But have you ever tasted Spaghettios??? Like since you have been an adult? I did once (was babysitting in college) and blech.

But a real prepper would point out that you need water and heat to make that into a meal. What if you have no water (to spare for boiling pasta), and no stove? That's why canned foods are king.

If Wuhan has water and electricity, we are going to have water and electricity.

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Anonymous wrote:Gross! I am for sure a (lightweight) preppier but you will not find canned spaghetti or ravioli in my house!

My bunker is stocked with only Grey Poupon. All class.

PP here. I am not a snob. I have plenty of Barilla pasta and Wegmans jarred pasta sauce. But have you ever tasted Spaghettios??? Like since you have been an adult? I did once (was babysitting in college) and blech.

But a real prepper would point out that you need water and heat to make that into a meal. What if you have no water (to spare for boiling pasta), and no stove? That's why canned foods are king.

If Wuhan has water and electricity, we are going to have water and electricity.

Barilla PP here. I also have a gas burner on my grill and extra propane.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?

I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.

Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.

Don’t buy into the smoking theories. Sure it makes one feel better I guess. The problem is no smokers vs non. It’s containing this virus

Are you a smoker by any chance?

I didn’t answer this thread but agree ppl have tried to find reasons to think they might be safe. The virus infects smoker and non a like. Ederly or not. How lucky are you? The only watt I manage luck is to plan for it. Planning and execution are both lack luster now? Is it easier to ban travel to and from certain areas in January or quarantine citizens here in March? Hmm

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Trump saying the media is trying to take him down with Coronavirus coverage because you know, it isn't actually a threat.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51667670

Also, he, Republicans, and Fox News really did try to take down Obama for years but publicizing everything they could.

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Anonymous wrote:Our local Costco was having the greeter pass out bleach wipes to every customer walking in with a cart.

Lovebit

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?

I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.

Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.

Don’t buy into the smoking theories. Sure it makes one feel better I guess. The problem is no smokers vs non. It’s containing this virus

Are you a smoker by any chance?

I didn’t answer this thread but agree ppl have tried to find reasons to think they might be safe. The virus infects smoker and non a like. Ederly or not. How lucky are you? The only watt I manage luck is to plan for it. Planning and execution are both lack luster now? Is it easier to ban travel to and from certain areas in January or quarantine citizens here in March? Hmm

I don't understand the people saying smoking has nothing to do with the serious cases. If your lungs are damaged, they are more susceptible to failing. I mean...that's just obvious. You can be concerned and still recognize obvious risk factors that are likely to be in play.

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Anonymous wrote:Not good, contact tracing failed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/health/coronavirus-us-updates-california-patient/index.html

The Solano County woman has puzzled health officials, who say they have not been able to trace where she contracted the virus.

She’s the ONLY one still in the hospital.

The only one that the hospital forced the CDC to test that's still in the hospital.

My point is we’ve had no deaths.

I agree that is encouraging. Have we had any US Citizen deaths abroad from COVID?

Doesn't matter as it would not be a reflection of the US healthcare system.

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Latest from Italy (ugh)

Italy’s coronavirus death toll has reached 21 and some 820 people have been infected, the civil protection chief has said, while number of those who have recovered from the virus is increasing.

Authorities say all the victims were elderly people who had also been suffering from other health issues.

Lombardy’s governor, Attilio Fontana, says situation intensified sharply in Lodi, near Milan, on Thursday; with a sudden spike in the number of people hospitalised.

“Unfortunately another emergency broke out in Lodi overnight,” Fontana, who has put himself into self isolation after a regional government employee tested positive, told La7 television. “There was a rush of hospitalisations yesterday afternoon with 51 people in a serious condition, including 17 who were put in intensive care.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/feb/28/coronavirus-live-updates-latest-news-china-wuhan-stock-markets-update

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?

I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.

Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.

Don’t buy into the smoking theories. Sure it makes one feel better I guess. The problem is no smokers vs non. It’s containing this virus

Are you a smoker by any chance?

I didn’t answer this thread but agree ppl have tried to find reasons to think they might be safe. The virus infects smoker and non a like. Ederly or not. How lucky are you? The only watt I manage luck is to plan for it. Planning and execution are both lack luster now? Is it easier to ban travel to and from certain areas in January or quarantine citizens here in March? Hmm

I don't understand the people saying smoking has nothing to do with the serious cases. If your lungs are damaged, they are more susceptible to failing. I mean...that's just obvious. You can be concerned and still recognize obvious risk factors that are likely to be in play.

They're all smokers/former smokers.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?

I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.

Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.

Don’t buy into the smoking theories. Sure it makes one feel better I guess. The problem is no smokers vs non. It’s containing this virus

Are you a smoker by any chance?

I didn’t answer this thread but agree ppl have tried to find reasons to think they might be safe. The virus infects smoker and non a like. Ederly or not. How lucky are you? The only watt I manage luck is to plan for it. Planning and execution are both lack luster now? Is it easier to ban travel to and from certain areas in January or quarantine citizens here in March? Hmm

I don't understand the people saying smoking has nothing to do with the serious cases. If your lungs are damaged, they are more susceptible to failing. I mean...that's just obvious. You can be concerned and still recognize obvious risk factors that are likely to be in play.

+1. Even apart from all of this latest stuff, doctors always want to know if you have a history of asthma or wheezing.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?

I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.

Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.

Don’t buy into the smoking theories. Sure it makes one feel better I guess. The problem is no smokers vs non. It’s containing this virus

Are you a smoker by any chance?

I didn’t answer this thread but agree ppl have tried to find reasons to think they might be safe. The virus infects smoker and non a like. Ederly or not. How lucky are you? The only watt I manage luck is to plan for it. Planning and execution are both lack luster now? Is it easier to ban travel to and from certain areas in January or quarantine citizens here in March? Hmm

I’m all for awareness, preparation, quarantines, etc. I think a lot people will get it and some people will die.

AND I also think the death rate will be lower for non-smokers. You really don’t?