Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does it have to be someone’s fault and not just the shooter’s own depravity?
I am a democrat and my boys (20s)are productive members of society. Stop blaming and threatening a political party.This just sadly shows me that I am surrounded by people that do not share my norms or morals. Lynch mob mentality is foreign to me. The only battle cries I hear are the distant drumming of a scary divided nation with the beats getting louder and closer.

+100.
I’m right of center and a fan of Charlie Kirk’s and don’t blame the left or anyone else other than Tyler Robinson himself. There always have and always will be mentally unstable people who commit high profile murders. I don’t understand the need to assign “blame” to any political wing. Even if the left is to “blame” for this, obviously some right wing crazy will do something similar in the future.

I'd like to be able to appreciate you post, but who is the "left" in your scenario. You are still generalizing to a whole group of people.

[Anonymous]

Did we talk about this?

Charlie Kirk suspect was in romantic relationship with transgender roommate
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate

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Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

He killed a “MAGA” figure. He isn’t “MAGA” and his parents’ political affiliation doesn’t matter. Nor does them owning guns matter. Many people own guns and most adults are capable of buying a hunting rifle at any time they wish. This is 100% to do with whatever online gaming communities he was involved in that egged him on. The roommate seems to have been a part of that as well. If you seriously think Kirk was shot bc the killer didn’t find him to be “mega” enough, that is delusional

So parents don't matter in regards to how their children turn out?

Do you have all the exact same views as your parents?

They introduced him to guns when he was a child, one could almost call this child abuse. Did Tyler have a choice?

They introduced him to guns and hunting. Not my thing to get kids involved in, but whatever. He went crazy on his own when he got involved with internet, gaming and trans culture.

Going to shooting ranges as a child…had he not been introduced to guns as a child or ever, do you think a trans community would have made him become interested in guns?

No and that’s a very fair point. The latest I read is that they are investigating many more people in this internet/ trans community that may have known about this. But he was the one who was willing to carry it out.

His mother's Facebook posts regarding pride in having raised a "gun-toting" son do seem relevant.

An online community egging him on to
Commit murder is more relevant

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

He killed a “MAGA” figure. He isn’t “MAGA” and his parents’ political affiliation doesn’t matter. Nor does them owning guns matter. Many people own guns and most adults are capable of buying a hunting rifle at any time they wish. This is 100% to do with whatever online gaming communities he was involved in that egged him on. The roommate seems to have been a part of that as well. If you seriously think Kirk was shot bc the killer didn’t find him to be “mega” enough, that is delusional

So parents don't matter in regards to how their children turn out?

Do you have all the exact same views as your parents?

They introduced him to guns when he was a child, one could almost call this child abuse. Did Tyler have a choice?

They introduced him to guns and hunting. Not my thing to get kids involved in, but whatever. He went crazy on his own when he got involved with internet, gaming and trans culture.

Again, 100% speculation.

More likely that he was mentally broken by the extreme right.

This is pretty twisted logic. Are you really saying that the extreme right are responsible for his hatred of Charlie Kirk?

Do all mass shooters/shooters actually hate the people they kill? No they don’t.

They hate themselves.

Gee I wonder why that might be? It couldn't be coming from a certain segment of society who openly hates white men, right?

He could hate himself for various reasons. He could suffer from delusions. There are countless factors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

He killed a “MAGA” figure. He isn’t “MAGA” and his parents’ political affiliation doesn’t matter. Nor does them owning guns matter. Many people own guns and most adults are capable of buying a hunting rifle at any time they wish. This is 100% to do with whatever online gaming communities he was involved in that egged him on. The roommate seems to have been a part of that as well. If you seriously think Kirk was shot bc the killer didn’t find him to be “mega” enough, that is delusional

So parents don't matter in regards to how their children turn out?

Do you have all the exact same views as your parents?

They introduced him to guns when he was a child, one could almost call this child abuse. Did Tyler have a choice?

They introduced him to guns and hunting. Not my thing to get kids involved in, but whatever. He went crazy on his own when he got involved with internet, gaming and trans culture.

Going to shooting ranges as a child…had he not been introduced to guns as a child or ever, do you think a trans community would have made him become interested in guns?

No and that’s a very fair point. The latest I read is that they are investigating many more people in this internet/ trans community that may have known about this. But he was the one who was willing to carry it out.

His mother's Facebook posts regarding pride in having raised a "gun-toting" son do seem relevant.

An online community egging him on to
Commit murder is more relevant

Couldn’t he just step away from the computer? His parents willingly and proudly taught him to shoot, gave him guns and ammunition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does it have to be someone’s fault and not just the shooter’s own depravity?
I am a democrat and my boys (20s)are productive members of society. Stop blaming and threatening a political party.This just sadly shows me that I am surrounded by people that do not share my norms or morals. Lynch mob mentality is foreign to me. The only battle cries I hear are the distant drumming of a scary divided nation with the beats getting louder and closer.

+100.
I’m right of center and a fan of Charlie Kirk’s and don’t blame the left or anyone else other than Tyler Robinson himself. There always have and always will be mentally unstable people who commit high profile murders. I don’t understand the need to assign “blame” to any political wing. Even if the left is to “blame” for this, obviously some right wing crazy will do something similar in the future.

I was explaining to a Puerto Rican cab driver how things feel on the mainland in February of 2025. I said things were getting so heated, I didn't see how we could avoid violence. We both hoped I was wrong. I wasn't. This violence is a natural outcome of way overheated rhetoric that is primarily violent online and spills into real life.

I feel like, when I was a kid, there was still some political violence that was a spill-over from the 60s / 70s violence. For example, the Greensboro Massacre by the Klan in 1979. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensboro_massacre

But now it feels like we're entering a new phase of post-Covid political violence fueled by isolation and the fact that some peoples' main lives are online. Both eras were dangerous and led to political violence. We came out of the previous era of political violence because of a consensus that the restoration of good governance was key to the continuance of our democracy. There was a mainstream consensus. Church attendance was higher.

Right now, I just don't see how our current political leadership is capable of leading us towards a better, more civil future.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

His MAGA, gun nut parents failed him.

His parents turned him in. They saved lives, fool.

The roommate and online gamer group could have saved lives and turned him in beforehand.

But they chose not to.

Are they on suicide watch now and going to do due process?

The Utah governor whose words you take as sacrosanct said the roommate didn't know.

Let me spell it out to you from someone who's former FBI: The governor has also said the roommate is cooperating. They're trying to get as much information out of him as they can before it's clear he will be charged and stops cooperating. Don't be surprised to learn the FBI knew he had knowledge of what his lover Tyler Robinson did this entire time.

Why use "lover"? You don't know that yet. And it outs you for the typical lying MAGA you are.

read the news. yes lovers.
https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/charlie-kirk-suspect-tyler-robinson-roommate-trans-relationship-65wvslwr8

https://nypost.com/2025/09/14/us-news/charlie-kirk-assassination-suspect-had-furry-fixation-trans-boyfriend-proclaimed-support-for-bidden/

https://www.wionews.com/photos/was-charlie-kirk-s-killer-tyler-robinson-living-with-transgender-partner-lance-twiggs-utah-governor-makes-big-revelation-1757871464138

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

His MAGA, gun nut parents failed him.

His parents turned him in. They saved lives, fool.

The roommate and online gamer group could have saved lives and turned him in beforehand.

But they chose not to.

Are they on suicide watch now and going to do due process?

The Utah governor whose words you take as sacrosanct said the roommate didn't know.

Let me spell it out to you from someone who's former FBI: The governor has also said the roommate is cooperating. They're trying to get as much information out of him as they can before it's clear he will be charged and stops cooperating. Don't be surprised to learn the FBI knew he had knowledge of what his lover Tyler Robinson did this entire time.

Why use "lover"? You don't know that yet. And it outs you for the typical lying MAGA you are.

read the news. yes lovers.
https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/charlie-kirk-suspect-tyler-robinson-roommate-trans-relationship-65wvslwr8

https://nypost.com/2025/09/14/us-news/charlie-kirk-assassination-suspect-had-furry-fixation-trans-boyfriend-proclaimed-support-for-bidden/

https://www.wionews.com/photos/was-charlie-kirk-s-killer-tyler-robinson-living-with-transgender-partner-lance-twiggs-utah-governor-makes-big-revelation-1757871464138

But the ever predictable gay lover didn’t put the gun in his hand and make him shoot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

His MAGA, gun nut parents failed him.

His parents turned him in. They saved lives, fool.

The roommate and online gamer group could have saved lives and turned him in beforehand.

But they chose not to.

Are they on suicide watch now and going to do due process?

The Utah governor whose words you take as sacrosanct said the roommate didn't know.

Let me spell it out to you from someone who's former FBI: The governor has also said the roommate is cooperating. They're trying to get as much information out of him as they can before it's clear he will be charged and stops cooperating. Don't be surprised to learn the FBI knew he had knowledge of what his lover Tyler Robinson did this entire time.

Why use "lover"? You don't know that yet. And it outs you for the typical lying MAGA you are.

read the news. yes lovers.
https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/charlie-kirk-suspect-tyler-robinson-roommate-trans-relationship-65wvslwr8

https://nypost.com/2025/09/14/us-news/charlie-kirk-assassination-suspect-had-furry-fixation-trans-boyfriend-proclaimed-support-for-bidden/

https://www.wionews.com/photos/was-charlie-kirk-s-killer-tyler-robinson-living-with-transgender-partner-lance-twiggs-utah-governor-makes-big-revelation-1757871464138

"Cox, the state governor, has said the suspect had a “leftist” worldview. He told ABC News that Robinson came from a conservative family, “but his ideology was very different”.

He said: “We do know that the room-mate is a boyfriend [of the suspect] who is transitioning from male to female. I will say that that person is very co-operative with authorities.”

He said the flatmate had no prior knowledge of the shooting and was shocked when they found out about it."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

He killed a “MAGA” figure. He isn’t “MAGA” and his parents’ political affiliation doesn’t matter. Nor does them owning guns matter. Many people own guns and most adults are capable of buying a hunting rifle at any time they wish. This is 100% to do with whatever online gaming communities he was involved in that egged him on. The roommate seems to have been a part of that as well. If you seriously think Kirk was shot bc the killer didn’t find him to be “mega” enough, that is delusional

So parents don't matter in regards to how their children turn out?

Do you have all the exact same views as your parents?

They introduced him to guns when he was a child, one could almost call this child abuse. Did Tyler have a choice?

They introduced him to guns and hunting. Not my thing to get kids involved in, but whatever. He went crazy on his own when he got involved with internet, gaming and trans culture.

Again, 100% speculation.

More likely that he was mentally broken by the extreme right.

This is pretty twisted logic. Are you really saying that the extreme right are responsible for his hatred of Charlie Kirk?

Did he hate Charlie Kirk?

DP but the truth is, those internet/gaming memes on the bullets would make me think they need to entertain all possibilities.

This administration has no credibility and the FBI is basically working to affirm whatever Trump wants them to affirm, so we will only hear about anything they can trace to leftists or trans communities and they'll suppress the rest. Most likely this kid's motives aren't political at all but a mishmash of influences. He may be the product of extremism on both the far, far right and far, far left down in that internet hole he was in.

i doubt we'll get the full truth from this administration. It wouldn't serve Trump in his quest to authoritarianism and quashing all people he stand up to him. He already made the call with his first post. Now they have to prove that narrative for him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

His MAGA, gun nut parents failed him.

His parents turned him in. They saved lives, fool.

The roommate and online gamer group could have saved lives and turned him in beforehand.

But they chose not to.

Are they on suicide watch now and going to do due process?

The Utah governor whose words you take as sacrosanct said the roommate didn't know.

Let me spell it out to you from someone who's former FBI: The governor has also said the roommate is cooperating. They're trying to get as much information out of him as they can before it's clear he will be charged and stops cooperating. Don't be surprised to learn the FBI knew he had knowledge of what his lover Tyler Robinson did this entire time.

Why use "lover"? You don't know that yet. And it outs you for the typical lying MAGA you are.

read the news. yes lovers.
https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/charlie-kirk-suspect-tyler-robinson-roommate-trans-relationship-65wvslwr8

https://nypost.com/2025/09/14/us-news/charlie-kirk-assassination-suspect-had-furry-fixation-trans-boyfriend-proclaimed-support-for-bidden/

https://www.wionews.com/photos/was-charlie-kirk-s-killer-tyler-robinson-living-with-transgender-partner-lance-twiggs-utah-governor-makes-big-revelation-1757871464138

But the ever predictable gay lover didn’t put the gun in his hand and make him shoot.

did anyone expect this twist??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

His MAGA, gun nut parents failed him.

His parents turned him in. They saved lives, fool.

The roommate and online gamer group could have saved lives and turned him in beforehand.

But they chose not to.

Are they on suicide watch now and going to do due process?

The Utah governor whose words you take as sacrosanct said the roommate didn't know.

Let me spell it out to you from someone who's former FBI: The governor has also said the roommate is cooperating. They're trying to get as much information out of him as they can before it's clear he will be charged and stops cooperating. Don't be surprised to learn the FBI knew he had knowledge of what his lover Tyler Robinson did this entire time.

Why use "lover"? You don't know that yet. And it outs you for the typical lying MAGA you are.

read the news. yes lovers.
https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/charlie-kirk-suspect-tyler-robinson-roommate-trans-relationship-65wvslwr8

https://nypost.com/2025/09/14/us-news/charlie-kirk-assassination-suspect-had-furry-fixation-trans-boyfriend-proclaimed-support-for-bidden/

https://www.wionews.com/photos/was-charlie-kirk-s-killer-tyler-robinson-living-with-transgender-partner-lance-twiggs-utah-governor-makes-big-revelation-1757871464138

Ok, put them in for a medal for helping solve the crime.

Thank you Trans hero!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

His MAGA, gun nut parents failed him.

His parents turned him in. They saved lives, fool.

The roommate and online gamer group could have saved lives and turned him in beforehand.

But they chose not to.

Are they on suicide watch now and going to do due process?

The Utah governor whose words you take as sacrosanct said the roommate didn't know.

Let me spell it out to you from someone who's former FBI: The governor has also said the roommate is cooperating. They're trying to get as much information out of him as they can before it's clear he will be charged and stops cooperating. Don't be surprised to learn the FBI knew he had knowledge of what his lover Tyler Robinson did this entire time.

Why use "lover"? You don't know that yet. And it outs you for the typical lying MAGA you are.

read the news. yes lovers.
https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/charlie-kirk-suspect-tyler-robinson-roommate-trans-relationship-65wvslwr8

https://nypost.com/2025/09/14/us-news/charlie-kirk-assassination-suspect-had-furry-fixation-trans-boyfriend-proclaimed-support-for-bidden/

https://www.wionews.com/photos/was-charlie-kirk-s-killer-tyler-robinson-living-with-transgender-partner-lance-twiggs-utah-governor-makes-big-revelation-1757871464138

But the ever predictable gay lover didn’t put the gun in his hand and make him shoot.

did anyone expect this twist??

I mean, I didn't. Back in my day gay youth just killed themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

His MAGA, gun nut parents failed him.

His parents turned him in. They saved lives, fool.

The roommate and online gamer group could have saved lives and turned him in beforehand.

But they chose not to.

Are they on suicide watch now and going to do due process?

The Utah governor whose words you take as sacrosanct said the roommate didn't know.

Let me spell it out to you from someone who's former FBI: The governor has also said the roommate is cooperating. They're trying to get as much information out of him as they can before it's clear he will be charged and stops cooperating. Don't be surprised to learn the FBI knew he had knowledge of what his lover Tyler Robinson did this entire time.

Why use "lover"? You don't know that yet. And it outs you for the typical lying MAGA you are.

read the news. yes lovers.
https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/charlie-kirk-suspect-tyler-robinson-roommate-trans-relationship-65wvslwr8

https://nypost.com/2025/09/14/us-news/charlie-kirk-assassination-suspect-had-furry-fixation-trans-boyfriend-proclaimed-support-for-bidden/

https://www.wionews.com/photos/was-charlie-kirk-s-killer-tyler-robinson-living-with-transgender-partner-lance-twiggs-utah-governor-makes-big-revelation-1757871464138

But the ever predictable gay lover didn’t put the gun in his hand and make him shoot.

did anyone expect this twist??

It’s the narrative Trump and TP need to make money, so sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

Correct
Leftist and liked D.

Yes. He was in a romantic relationship with him roommate who was in the process of transitioning from male to female.

At the end of the day, I don’t care about his politics. He is a deeply evil human being.

What I care about is that Charlie’s wife is now a widow and his two children have to grow up without a father. I care that they were in attendance and saw the murder of their husband/father.

It’s been so amazing to see how much Charlie Kirk inspired the world. There have been vigils all around the world in many different countries. I know Charlie would be so humbled by this.

Make no mistake, Charlie was assassinated because he was getting through to the younger generation. His influence was huge. He is a martyr. He is gone but his name and influence will live on forever.

While I take issue with most of this post, I wanted to point out that the bolded is factually incorrect.

It isn’t. It’s been confirmed that they were there. Even protestors that were there said they were.