Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?

Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.


If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.

I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.

The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?


I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.

It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.


Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.

I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.

You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.


Jeff, with all due respect, I am not sure the Governor understands the difference between "leftist ideology" and the likes of Fuentes and Loomer. There are mainstream republicans, like a PP in this thread, who just assumes anyone who is gay or trans are also lefties. And that simply isn't the case. It will really take a search through his internet consumption and posting history to really get at the root of who he is and what made him tick. And frankly, i don't trust anything coming out of the FBI right now.


I would add that the governor is still probably misinterpreting the scrawlings on the bullets. He is interpreting the fascist thing literally instead of accepting these are gamer memes that may truly point to this guy having completely non-political motivations.


The inscriptions are probably meant ironically or to be misleading. The one used to kill Kirk was about noticing a bulge and another about being gay. Both wool theoretically apply to Robinson. I don't think we can divine anything from the inscriptions at this point.


Hahahahaha… If the inscriptions were about MAGA you’d take them as gospel. Look at the twists and turns on this thread alone as the killer went from Left to Right to Left. Now that he’s left, it’s back to "wait for all of the facts"
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jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?

Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.


If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.

I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.

The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?


I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.

It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.


Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.

I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.

You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.


Jeff, with all due respect, I am not sure the Governor understands the difference between "leftist ideology" and the likes of Fuentes and Loomer. There are mainstream republicans, like a PP in this thread, who just assumes anyone who is gay or trans are also lefties. And that simply isn't the case. It will really take a search through his internet consumption and posting history to really get at the root of who he is and what made him tick. And frankly, i don't trust anything coming out of the FBI right now.


I would add that the governor is still probably misinterpreting the scrawlings on the bullets. He is interpreting the fascist thing literally instead of accepting these are gamer memes that may truly point to this guy having completely non-political motivations.


I don’t think the governor is interpreting anything. He is passing on the info and interpretation the FBI gives him. Pretty sure the FBI is looking into the gaming world


“The gaming world”. You sound so out of touch.


Okay Groypers for NPC you seem very in touch. Very in touch with touching yourself.
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I don't blame her for not being. She knows he's BSing. I don't like being lied to, either.
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Anonymous wrote:We are also going to find out shortly how much trans porn MAGA consumes. I just saw some data analytics, but not a postable link yet.

MAGA.
Trans porn.
Religious right.
Pedo.

It’s all coming to a head!


You can keep pretending that the gay shooter with a transitioning boyfriend that assassinated the most influential conservative personality among young people is somehow MAGA, but you look dumber every minute.


Have you heard of Nick Fuentes and Catboykami? If you haven't, maybe you need to better understand the eco-system of media the shooter consumed.


This week the information will come out, and you’ll be disappointed to learn he’s not remotely MAGA. You have about 48 hours to craft a nuttier narrative.


Oh you mean how the right wing carried on and on and on for MONTHS about how the J6 violence wasn't MAGAs, that it was Antifa dressed up as MAGA and / FBI agents dressed up as MAGA. And every once in a blue moon one of you idiots STILL goes back to that nonsense.

You people fully deserve to endure all the nuttiness that the internet can dish out at you.
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jsteele wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?

Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.


If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.

I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.

The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?


I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.

It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.


Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.

I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.

You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.


Jeff, with all due respect, I am not sure the Governor understands the difference between "leftist ideology" and the likes of Fuentes and Loomer. There are mainstream republicans, like a PP in this thread, who just assumes anyone who is gay or trans are also lefties. And that simply isn't the case. It will really take a search through his internet consumption and posting history to really get at the root of who he is and what made him tick. And frankly, i don't trust anything coming out of the FBI right now.


I would add that the governor is still probably misinterpreting the scrawlings on the bullets. He is interpreting the fascist thing literally instead of accepting these are gamer memes that may truly point to this guy having completely non-political motivations.


The inscriptions are probably meant ironically or to be misleading. The one used to kill Kirk was about noticing a bulge and another about being gay. Both wool theoretically apply to Robinson. I don't think we can divine anything from the inscriptions at this point.


Hahahahaha… If the inscriptions were about MAGA you’d take them as gospel. Look at the twists and turns on this thread alone as the killer went from Left to Right to Left. Now that he’s left, it’s back to "wait for all of the facts"


One thing we can be certain about is if you don’t wanna shoot a child don’t raise them MAGA… how about that Colorado shooter?
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?

Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.


If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.

I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.

The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?


I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.

It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.


Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.

I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.

You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.


Jeff, with all due respect, I am not sure the Governor understands the difference between "leftist ideology" and the likes of Fuentes and Loomer. There are mainstream republicans, like a PP in this thread, who just assumes anyone who is gay or trans are also lefties. And that simply isn't the case. It will really take a search through his internet consumption and posting history to really get at the root of who he is and what made him tick. And frankly, i don't trust anything coming out of the FBI right now.


I would add that the governor is still probably misinterpreting the scrawlings on the bullets. He is interpreting the fascist thing literally instead of accepting these are gamer memes that may truly point to this guy having completely non-political motivations.


The inscriptions are probably meant ironically or to be misleading. The one used to kill Kirk was about noticing a bulge and another about being gay. Both wool theoretically apply to Robinson. I don't think we can divine anything from the inscriptions at this point.


Hahahahaha… If the inscriptions were about MAGA you’d take them as gospel. Look at the twists and turns on this thread alone as the killer went from Left to Right to Left. Now that he’s left, it’s back to "wait for all of the facts"


Does it sound normal to you that a male who is involved with another male who is transitioning would make jokes about trans and gay people? Try to stick to the content of my post this time instead of replying to the voices in your head.
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Wait, MAGA says lib men are all beta pansy tree hugger pacifists. Now they’re gun nuts?
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?

Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.


If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.

I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.

The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?


I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.

It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.


Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.

I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.

You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.


Jeff, with all due respect, I am not sure the Governor understands the difference between "leftist ideology" and the likes of Fuentes and Loomer. There are mainstream republicans, like a PP in this thread, who just assumes anyone who is gay or trans are also lefties. And that simply isn't the case. It will really take a search through his internet consumption and posting history to really get at the root of who he is and what made him tick. And frankly, i don't trust anything coming out of the FBI right now.


I would add that the governor is still probably misinterpreting the scrawlings on the bullets. He is interpreting the fascist thing literally instead of accepting these are gamer memes that may truly point to this guy having completely non-political motivations.


The inscriptions are probably meant ironically or to be misleading. The one used to kill Kirk was about noticing a bulge and another about being gay. Both wool theoretically apply to Robinson. I don't think we can divine anything from the inscriptions at this point.


Hahahahaha… If the inscriptions were about MAGA you’d take them as gospel. Look at the twists and turns on this thread alone as the killer went from Left to Right to Left. Now that he’s left, it’s back to "wait for all of the facts"


We've seen zero evidence of this "indoctrination." The only thing we have proof of is his family had an unhealthy relationship to guns and was MAGA based on his mother's FB and grandmother's statement that the entire family was MAGA.

Cox said he had a transgender roommate who was cooperating with police.

We have the bullet casings about memes.

Nick Fuentes came out basically believing he was a follower based on the bullet casings.

Those are the facts we have right now.
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I don't blame her for not being. She knows he's BSing. I don't like being lied to, either.


Why wouldn't the left ideology be blamed? It's the left that is celebrating his death.
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jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?

Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.


If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.

I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.

The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?


I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.

It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.


Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.

I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.

You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.


I have no clue the truth anymore but also saw something about there being a subset of Groypers who convince men to feminize themselves because they hate women so much and this is a way around dating women. So I’m not entirely sure the roommate is actually trans.

Ultimately it doesn’t really matter though what his ideology is nor his roommate’s gender. The bottom line is no one wants to claim this guy. He’s just another miserable angry male with easy access to guns.

Even if he was somehow liberal, the Democratic Party as a whole is no more responsible for this than the MAGA who broke into the Pelosis’ home. The difference is we didn’t dox and insist on the firings of people who mocked Paul Pelosi, nor did we threaten retribution.

I can’t believe how anyone thinks any of this is normal - we flew the flag half mast for a freaking podcaster.
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jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?

Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.


If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.

I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.

The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?


I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.

It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.


Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.

I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.

You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.


Jeff, with all due respect, I am not sure the Governor understands the difference between "leftist ideology" and the likes of Fuentes and Loomer. There are mainstream republicans, like a PP in this thread, who just assumes anyone who is gay or trans are also lefties. And that simply isn't the case. It will really take a search through his internet consumption and posting history to really get at the root of who he is and what made him tick. And frankly, i don't trust anything coming out of the FBI right now.


I would add that the governor is still probably misinterpreting the scrawlings on the bullets. He is interpreting the fascist thing literally instead of accepting these are gamer memes that may truly point to this guy having completely non-political motivations.


The inscriptions are probably meant ironically or to be misleading. The one used to kill Kirk was about noticing a bulge and another about being gay. Both wool theoretically apply to Robinson. I don't think we can divine anything from the inscriptions at this point.


Hahahahaha… If the inscriptions were about MAGA you’d take them as gospel. Look at the twists and turns on this thread alone as the killer went from Left to Right to Left. Now that he’s left, it’s back to "wait for all of the facts"


Does it sound normal to you that a male who is involved with another male who is transitioning would make jokes about trans and gay people? Try to stick to the content of my post this time instead of replying to the voices in your head.

It does if the inscriptions were meant to be intentionally misleading.
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?

Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.


If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.

I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.

The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?


I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.

It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.


Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.

I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.

You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.


Jeff, with all due respect, I am not sure the Governor understands the difference between "leftist ideology" and the likes of Fuentes and Loomer. There are mainstream republicans, like a PP in this thread, who just assumes anyone who is gay or trans are also lefties. And that simply isn't the case. It will really take a search through his internet consumption and posting history to really get at the root of who he is and what made him tick. And frankly, i don't trust anything coming out of the FBI right now.


I would add that the governor is still probably misinterpreting the scrawlings on the bullets. He is interpreting the fascist thing literally instead of accepting these are gamer memes that may truly point to this guy having completely non-political motivations.


The inscriptions are probably meant ironically or to be misleading. The one used to kill Kirk was about noticing a bulge and another about being gay. Both wool theoretically apply to Robinson. I don't think we can divine anything from the inscriptions at this point.


Hahahahaha… If the inscriptions were about MAGA you’d take them as gospel. Look at the twists and turns on this thread alone as the killer went from Left to Right to Left. Now that he’s left, it’s back to "wait for all of the facts"


For most of us, it's been engaging in speculation while waiting on the facts and we were clear on that. Trump preordained this as "leftists" immediately after the shooting (which was inappropriate and weird) and his people are bootlickers who repeat his lines whether they know them to be lies or truth. Any critical thinker would be skeptical of things coming from Trump lackeys at this point when Trump has made his agenda plain.
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Anonymous wrote:Jeff will lock this in a second. It's clear now that this was a hit on a cis white R man by the trans left community.


The shooter was not trans. He was a cis White man. These are known facts that have been publicized all day. Is there any reason that you are struggling with them?


+1


Publicized by who? He had a trans partner. Does that make him CIS?


He is trans adjacent.


Trans-involved individuals

And who taught Tyler how to shoot, who brought him to shooting ranges as a kid, posted photos of him as a child sitting with bazookas? The trans community?


His conservative parents. The difference is Conservatives say guns are used for hunting, sport, and self defense because that’s what they use them for. Liberals say guns are for killing people because that’s what they use them for……


Most delusional post nomination.^^
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jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
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jsteele wrote:
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jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?

Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.


If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.

I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.

The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?


I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.

It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.


Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.

I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.

You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.


Jeff, with all due respect, I am not sure the Governor understands the difference between "leftist ideology" and the likes of Fuentes and Loomer. There are mainstream republicans, like a PP in this thread, who just assumes anyone who is gay or trans are also lefties. And that simply isn't the case. It will really take a search through his internet consumption and posting history to really get at the root of who he is and what made him tick. And frankly, i don't trust anything coming out of the FBI right now.


I would add that the governor is still probably misinterpreting the scrawlings on the bullets. He is interpreting the fascist thing literally instead of accepting these are gamer memes that may truly point to this guy having completely non-political motivations.


The inscriptions are probably meant ironically or to be misleading. The one used to kill Kirk was about noticing a bulge and another about being gay. Both wool theoretically apply to Robinson. I don't think we can divine anything from the inscriptions at this point.


Hahahahaha… If the inscriptions were about MAGA you’d take them as gospel. Look at the twists and turns on this thread alone as the killer went from Left to Right to Left. Now that he’s left, it’s back to "wait for all of the facts"


Does it sound normal to you that a male who is involved with another male who is transitioning would make jokes about trans and gay people? Try to stick to the content of my post this time instead of replying to the voices in your head.


Which is why there are not official releases. What we are seeing is Patel posting screen shots of Fox News articles quoting "FBI Officials" (guess who) - the whole narrative is manufactured to fit what was put out by Trump initially. The storyb is very simply: MAGA kid got sucked into the Groyper vortex and is further to the right than Kirk and followed Laura Loomer's lead. The right cannot handle that narrative, and since they are in control at the state and federal level, they are creating this whole cloth BS to ensure "the trans" are blamed.
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Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?

Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.


If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.

I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.

The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?


I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.

It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.


Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.

I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.

You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.


Jeff, with all due respect, I am not sure the Governor understands the difference between "leftist ideology" and the likes of Fuentes and Loomer. There are mainstream republicans, like a PP in this thread, who just assumes anyone who is gay or trans are also lefties. And that simply isn't the case. It will really take a search through his internet consumption and posting history to really get at the root of who he is and what made him tick. And frankly, i don't trust anything coming out of the FBI right now.


I would add that the governor is still probably misinterpreting the scrawlings on the bullets. He is interpreting the fascist thing literally instead of accepting these are gamer memes that may truly point to this guy having completely non-political motivations.


The governor seems like an older conservative who is at least 3 decades out of touch with current memes and themes and basically just concludes "well since it's not anything I recognize it must be leftist." It's not a valid conclusion to just leap to "it's not my ideology therefore it must be leftist." I'm seeing a lot of this going on, particularly from older and more rural people who are politically naive.
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