Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Besides the obvious reasons, there may be another reason why California wants those coronavirus test kits ASAP.

Here's the most recent weekly flu surveillance report from California, for the week ending 2/22. https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%20Document%20Library/Immunization/Week2019-2008_FINALReport.pdf

As part of their report, they get data from Kaiser as to all inpatients who have flu, influenza or PNEUMONIA as part of their diagnosis. The percentage of people who have those diagnoses is at an above average level and it went UP last week.

"The percentage of admissions for pneumonia and influenza (P&I) in Kaiser Permanente
facilities in northern California during Week 8 was 7.7% compared to Week 7 (7.3%)
and is above expected levels for this time of the year (Figure 2)"

But other statewide statistics are showing that the level of confirmed influenza activity is going down.

"The overall percentage of influenza detections in clinical sentinel laboratories in Week 8
(27.0%) was lower than Week 7 (28.8%)"

Now maybe this is a blip, but I bet this got someone's attention.

You are a real Sherlock Holmes! Great post, thank you.

[Anonymous]

Not good, contact tracing failed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/health/coronavirus-us-updates-california-patient/index.html

The Solano County woman has puzzled health officials, who say they have not been able to trace where she contracted the virus.

[Anonymous]

Nothing to see here. Just cleaning up after the infected flight attendant came for a meal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not good, contact tracing failed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/health/coronavirus-us-updates-california-patient/index.html

The Solano County woman has puzzled health officials, who say they have not been able to trace where she contracted the virus.

I mean, isn't it obvious an infected (possibly asymptomatic) employee has left Travis AFB and this woman picked it up? It is NOT a coincidence that she is in the same county as the evacuees. When you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not good, contact tracing failed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/health/coronavirus-us-updates-california-patient/index.html

The Solano County woman has puzzled health officials, who say they have not been able to trace where she contracted the virus.

I mean, isn't it obvious an infected (possibly asymptomatic) employee has left Travis AFB and this woman picked it up? It is NOT a coincidence that she is in the same county as the evacuees. When you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.

The point of the contact tracing is to find patient zero then find the spreading tree of contacts they and all their contacts had in order keep the disease from spreading. If you cannot do that, you cannot contain it. So at this point, you're happy hoping that she's the only unlucky one that caught it.

[Anonymous]

Was in a Wal Mart at 11am today. Clorox and Lysol wipes were wiped out, none.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The virus is in every country. I don't think we need to list them all.

Not quite. Sub-saharan Africa, South America, and central America each have just one case.

There is no way in the world SSA only has one case. The sub-continent is crawling with Chinese and so much cross continental travel. It is almost certainly spreading widely there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not good, contact tracing failed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/health/coronavirus-us-updates-california-patient/index.html

The Solano County woman has puzzled health officials, who say they have not been able to trace where she contracted the virus.

She’s the ONLY one still in the hospital.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was in a Wal Mart at 11am today. Clorox and Lysol wipes were wiped out, none.

Was at a Safeway at noon. Everything fully stocked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The virus is in every country. I don't think we need to list them all.

Not quite. Sub-saharan Africa, South America, and central America each have just one case.

There is no way in the world SSA only has one case. The sub-continent is crawling with Chinese and so much cross continental travel. It is almost certainly spreading widely there.

I heard on NPR this morning that the one infected Nigerian had been to Milan recently. But yes, China connection is probably even more likely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not good, contact tracing failed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/health/coronavirus-us-updates-california-patient/index.html

The Solano County woman has puzzled health officials, who say they have not been able to trace where she contracted the virus.

She’s the ONLY one still in the hospital.

The only one that the hospital forced the CDC to test that's still in the hospital.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not good, contact tracing failed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/health/coronavirus-us-updates-california-patient/index.html

The Solano County woman has puzzled health officials, who say they have not been able to trace where she contracted the virus.

I mean, isn't it obvious an infected (possibly asymptomatic) employee has left Travis AFB and this woman picked it up? It is NOT a coincidence that she is in the same county as the evacuees. When you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.

The point of the contact tracing is to find patient zero then find the spreading tree of contacts they and all their contacts had in order keep the disease from spreading. If you cannot do that, you cannot contain it. So at this point, you're happy hoping that she's the only unlucky one that caught it.

I'm not happy. I'm just accepting reality. We can't contain it. World health officials have already said as much. At best we can slow it down and hopefully find ways to lower the mortality rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Besides the obvious reasons, there may be another reason why California wants those coronavirus test kits ASAP.

Here's the most recent weekly flu surveillance report from California, for the week ending 2/22. https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%20Document%20Library/Immunization/Week2019-2008_FINALReport.pdf

As part of their report, they get data from Kaiser as to all inpatients who have flu, influenza or PNEUMONIA as part of their diagnosis. The percentage of people who have those diagnoses is at an above average level and it went UP last week.

"The percentage of admissions for pneumonia and influenza (P&I) in Kaiser Permanente
facilities in northern California during Week 8 was 7.7% compared to Week 7 (7.3%)
and is above expected levels for this time of the year (Figure 2)"

But other statewide statistics are showing that the level of confirmed influenza activity is going down.

"The overall percentage of influenza detections in clinical sentinel laboratories in Week 8
(27.0%) was lower than Week 7 (28.8%)"

Now maybe this is a blip, but I bet this got someone's attention.

Can this be due to waves/surges in Influenza B vs Influenza A? This year Influenza B is supposed to be very bad and may be more likely to be accompanied by pneumonia.

Also, the Kaiser Permanente (KP) population tends to be somewhat OLDER than the non-KP population, which means they are also more likely to have complications like pneumonia, regardless of which strain of flu they get. https://divisionofresearch.kaiserpermanente.org/projects/memberhealthsurvey/SiteCollectionDocuments/chis_non_kp_2011.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not good, contact tracing failed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/health/coronavirus-us-updates-california-patient/index.html

The Solano County woman has puzzled health officials, who say they have not been able to trace where she contracted the virus.

She’s the ONLY one still in the hospital.

The only one that the hospital forced the CDC to test that's still in the hospital.

My point is we’ve had no deaths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not good, contact tracing failed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/health/coronavirus-us-updates-california-patient/index.html

The Solano County woman has puzzled health officials, who say they have not been able to trace where she contracted the virus.

She’s the ONLY one still in the hospital.

The only one that the hospital forced the CDC to test that's still in the hospital.

My point is we’ve had no deaths.

I agree that is encouraging. Have we had any US Citizen deaths abroad from COVID?