Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else received muster or mobilization orders? I was ordered to a muster next week in preparation for a national emergency but no further information. In case it helps I am an enlisted MP in the inactive national guard.


Can you provide any proof of this?


Proof that I got muster orders? I mean, they have us inactive folks muster every year for a day so it's not a complete anomaly. I had my annual muster towards the end of the year last year so it just seemed weird to me that they're doing a muster again so soon. The national emergency part might just be boilerplate language, that's why I'm asking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else received muster or mobilization orders? I was ordered to a muster next week in preparation for a national emergency but no further information. In case it helps I am an enlisted MP in the inactive national guard.


Which state?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else received muster or mobilization orders? I was ordered to a muster next week in preparation for a national emergency but no further information. In case it helps I am an enlisted MP in the inactive national guard.


Can you provide any proof of this?


Proof that I got muster orders? I mean, they have us inactive folks muster every year for a day so it's not a complete anomaly. I had my annual muster towards the end of the year last year so it just seemed weird to me that they're doing a muster again so soon. The national emergency part might just be boilerplate language, that's why I'm asking.


Any chance you can block out identifying info and post a pic?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else received muster or mobilization orders? I was ordered to a muster next week in preparation for a national emergency but no further information. In case it helps I am an enlisted MP in the inactive national guard.


Which state?


VA. To the other poster, no, I'm not comfortable posting that. I'm sure they're real, only the Army could come up with this idiotic system of dashes and backslashes and nonsensical numbers all over the place.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?


I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.


Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.
Anonymous
Re mobilizations, Where would one find this reported in the news? Do you know?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Re mobilizations, Where would one find this reported in the news? Do you know?


If its true (not saying it isn't) it will leak soon enough.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else received muster or mobilization orders? I was ordered to a muster next week in preparation for a national emergency but no further information. In case it helps I am an enlisted MP in the inactive national guard.


Honestly this alarms me more than anything else I have heard so far. Obviously they know something we don't. But of course VA is a blue state so cue more denial from the MAGA crowd.....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Re mobilizations, Where would one find this reported in the news? Do you know?


Military PP here and just for the record it is a muster, not a mobilization. They are different. A muster is a readiness exercise that usually just lasts a day or two and a mobilization is a call to active duty that is typically 6 months plus.

Mobilizations generally aren't secrets by the way, they are typically published so it wouldn't need to be leaked.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?


I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.


Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.


I wish they would mention in the statistics whether or not a victim was smoker. It seems like a pretty vital piece of information to leave out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Re mobilizations, Where would one find this reported in the news? Do you know?


Military PP here and just for the record it is a muster, not a mobilization. They are different. A muster is a readiness exercise that usually just lasts a day or two and a mobilization is a call to active duty that is typically 6 months plus.

Mobilizations generally aren't secrets by the way, they are typically published so it wouldn't need to be leaked.


OK that's different, phew
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?


I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.


Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.


I wish they would mention in the statistics whether or not a victim was smoker. It seems like a pretty vital piece of information to leave out.


Why are you so hung up on the smoking aspect? Do you think if they say 70% of the people who died were smokers or former smokers then you won’t die? Newsflash- you probably won’t die bc you are young and relatively healthy. Your parents are a different story. Also, if the hospitals get overwhelmed then you might die anyway. Stop with the smoking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?


I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.


Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.


I wish they would mention in the statistics whether or not a victim was smoker. It seems like a pretty vital piece of information to leave out.


Why are you so hung up on the smoking aspect? Do you think if they say 70% of the people who died were smokers or former smokers then you won’t die? Newsflash- you probably won’t die bc you are young and relatively healthy. Your parents are a different story. Also, if the hospitals get overwhelmed then you might die anyway. Stop with the smoking.


DP, but I’m also curious how much of a factor smoking is on the actual death rates. 2x more likely to die? 10x?

No one in my family (even parents) ever smoked so the non-smoker death rates are more applicable to us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?


I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.


Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.


I wish they would mention in the statistics whether or not a victim was smoker. It seems like a pretty vital piece of information to leave out.


Why are you so hung up on the smoking aspect? Do you think if they say 70% of the people who died were smokers or former smokers then you won’t die? Newsflash- you probably won’t die bc you are young and relatively healthy. Your parents are a different story. Also, if the hospitals get overwhelmed then you might die anyway. Stop with the smoking.


NP. This is ridiculous--in a country where we don't smoke nearly as much, it could mean our death rate is very different. Right now all you know is how the virus affects people in places where smoking, and heavily smoking at that, is extremely common. You can't say the same for the US. Whether or not the people who have died were smokers is important.
Anonymous
Besides the obvious reasons, there may be another reason why California wants those coronavirus test kits ASAP.

Here's the most recent weekly flu surveillance report from California, for the week ending 2/22. https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%20Document%20Library/Immunization/Week2019-2008_FINALReport.pdf

As part of their report, they get data from Kaiser as to all inpatients who have flu, influenza or PNEUMONIA as part of their diagnosis. The percentage of people who have those diagnoses is at an above average level and it went UP last week.

"The percentage of admissions for pneumonia and influenza (P&I) in Kaiser Permanente
facilities in northern California during Week 8 was 7.7% compared to Week 7 (7.3%)
and is above expected levels for this time of the year (Figure 2)"

But other statewide statistics are showing that the level of confirmed influenza activity is going down.

"The overall percentage of influenza detections in clinical sentinel laboratories in Week 8
(27.0%) was lower than Week 7 (28.8%)"

Now maybe this is a blip, but I bet this got someone's attention.
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