Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is a crisis at our southern border for sure. I mean, look, listen and think. The bigger picture is how are individual states, counties and cities going to deal with the influx? We're so over-taxed here already in Northern Virginia. Our schools are full where I live and we're struggling to build new. Many are 7 to 8 decades old. We've always had local high taxes here. It's straining people.

you're racist if you say that.

Or that an influx of non-english speaking children with possible emotional distress and no support system will lower the quality of your school.

DP. Really hoping you're being facetious, because the PP is absolutely correct.

[Anonymous]

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Again, the vast majority of government services are unavailable to undocumented people. You wouldn’t want to extend services to support our families because maybe some tiny % of those services would be abused?

So rather than risk having a tiny % of abuse you prefer to have nothing - zero benefits for any citizens. Sounds like spite to me.

re: refugees and asylees - But how are we coding those entering if they're escaping brutal conditions?

Refugees and asylees are eligible for all welfare benefits for the first seven years they reside in the U.S., after which their eligibility is greatly reduced.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/welfare-benefits-for-non-citizens/
Welfare Benefits for Non-Citizens

written in 2002 - still the case?
If so, 7 years is still a long time.


This is new to me, too.
https://www.acf.hhs.gov/orr/programs/cma/about

The Cash and Medical Assistance (CMA) Program is part of the Division of Refugee Assistance. CMA reimburses states for 100 percent of services provided to refugees and other eligible persons, as well as associated administrative costs. Programs eligible for reimbursement include:

Refugee Cash Assistance (RCA)
Refugee Medical Assistance (RMA)
Unaccompanied Refugee Minors

https://refugeehealthta.org/access-to-care/eligibility-for-benefits-and-services/
similar info

SEVEN YEARS? Good grief. I had no idea they were eligible for federal benefits. And I bet millions of other people had no idea either, so thank you for posting, PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:US birth rate has plunged from 3.19 in 1964 to 1.80 today and is well below threshold needed to replace population. There are 950,000 abortions per year (increasingly concentrated among poor women). If not for immigration, US population would be getting smaller.

We actually need these people or else face a Japan problem.

Or you know, we could make it easier and provide incentives for our citizens to have larger families.

Like universal healthcare, maternity leave, subsidized childcare, secondary education, etc?

Yes, exactly like those programs. And you cannot have open borders or an ineffective way to deport people and have those programs.

Please point out which GOP official is advocating for any of those programs. LOLOLOL!

None. But neither are democrats advocating putting meaningful restrictions on immigrants so that we can have nice things.

You are mistaken if you think people in the middle of the country would not take that deal IF controls were in place to actually deport illegal immigrants. Remember Bernie was the biggest threat before he started talking amnesty. People like the idea of universal healthcare. they dont like the idea of non-citizens taking advantage of our system.

This doesn’t make any sense because undocumented people are not eligible for most government services. Certainly not Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, SNIP, ACA subsidies, Social Security, etc.

So you don’t want to extend benefits to citizens...out of spite?

Kids of the illegals are eligible for schools, ESOL, lunches, health care, food stamps, and subsidized housing. Illegals go the the US emergency rooms ALL the time. WE pay for all of it.

You mean US citizens?

DP. Kids of illegal immigrants are not necessarily US citizens. Many of them bring their kids with them across the border, making the kids illegal immigrants as well. Catch up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about Japan?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey 19:10, Can they please come to your house? You say no way, Jose? Where exactly do you want them to go?

Crickets.

Well since you don’t want to make their home a safe place to live then they should go to your house. You break it you buy it.

DP. We've tried for years to make their home a safe place to live. At a certain point, you stop handing out money that is only going to be flushed down the toilet. If you want to send your own money, feel free. But leave the rest of us out of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately the laws are lenient and aclu is well funded, all those strict measures by trump and co will only inflate the bleeding heart pro illegal rhetoric and waste taxpayer money on lawsuits.
Only by changing the legislation and public discourse on ilegal immigration will do the trick. If a well known and respected figure started stating facts (how many people
Stay having a standing deportation order; how many don’t show up for the hearing; what benefits are available to those with pending asylum status and their kids, US citizens and not, etc) that may turn the needle.

Completely agree. Make all of these facts public.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Again, the vast majority of government services are unavailable to undocumented people. You wouldn’t want to extend services to support our families because maybe some tiny % of those services would be abused?

So rather than risk having a tiny % of abuse you prefer to have nothing - zero benefits for any citizens. Sounds like spite to me.

re: refugees and asylees - But how are we coding those entering if they're escaping brutal conditions?

Refugees and asylees are eligible for all welfare benefits for the first seven years they reside in the U.S., after which their eligibility is greatly reduced.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/welfare-benefits-for-non-citizens/
Welfare Benefits for Non-Citizens

written in 2002 - still the case?
If so, 7 years is still a long time.


This is new to me, too.
https://www.acf.hhs.gov/orr/programs/cma/about

The Cash and Medical Assistance (CMA) Program is part of the Division of Refugee Assistance. CMA reimburses states for 100 percent of services provided to refugees and other eligible persons, as well as associated administrative costs. Programs eligible for reimbursement include:

Refugee Cash Assistance (RCA)
Refugee Medical Assistance (RMA)
Unaccompanied Refugee Minors

https://refugeehealthta.org/access-to-care/eligibility-for-benefits-and-services/
similar info

SEVEN YEARS? Good grief. I had no idea they were eligible for federal benefits. And I bet millions of other people had no idea either, so thank you for posting, PP.

If they are granted asylum then they are here legally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey 19:10, Can they please come to your house? You say no way, Jose? Where exactly do you want them to go?

Crickets.

Well since you don’t want to make their home a safe place to live then they should go to your house. You break it you buy it.

DP. We've tried for years to make their home a safe place to live. At a certain point, you stop handing out money that is only going to be flushed down the toilet. If you want to send your own money, feel free. But leave the rest of us out of it.

Well then I guess you’ll have to take them into your house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey 19:10, Can they please come to your house? You say no way, Jose? Where exactly do you want them to go?

Crickets.

Well since you don’t want to make their home a safe place to live then they should go to your house. You break it you buy it.

DP. We've tried for years to make their home a safe place to live. At a certain point, you stop handing out money that is only going to be flushed down the toilet. If you want to send your own money, feel free. But leave the rest of us out of it.

Well then I guess you’ll have to take them into your house.

Not me, sorry. But you seem extremely eager to bring them to the U.S., so be sure and make it known that you can sponsor several families.

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Anonymous wrote:US birth rate has plunged from 3.19 in 1964 to 1.80 today and is well below threshold needed to replace population. There are 950,000 abortions per year (increasingly concentrated among poor women). If not for immigration, US population would be getting smaller.

We actually need these people or else face a Japan problem.

Or you know, we could make it easier and provide incentives for our citizens to have larger families.

Like universal healthcare, maternity leave, subsidized childcare, secondary education, etc?

Yes, exactly like those programs. And you cannot have open borders or an ineffective way to deport people and have those programs.

Please point out which GOP official is advocating for any of those programs. LOLOLOL!

None. But neither are democrats advocating putting meaningful restrictions on immigrants so that we can have nice things.

You are mistaken if you think people in the middle of the country would not take that deal IF controls were in place to actually deport illegal immigrants. Remember Bernie was the biggest threat before he started talking amnesty. People like the idea of universal healthcare. they dont like the idea of non-citizens taking advantage of our system.

This doesn’t make any sense because undocumented people are not eligible for most government services. Certainly not Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, SNIP, ACA subsidies, Social Security, etc.

So you don’t want to extend benefits to citizens...out of spite?

Kids of the illegals are eligible for schools, ESOL, lunches, health care, food stamps, and subsidized housing. Illegals go the the US emergency rooms ALL the time. WE pay for all of it.

You mean US citizens?

DP. Kids of illegal immigrants are not necessarily US citizens. Many of them bring their kids with them across the border, making the kids illegal immigrants as well. Catch up.

Then no food stamps and not much of the subsidized housing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey 19:10, Can they please come to your house? You say no way, Jose? Where exactly do you want them to go?

Crickets.

Well since you don’t want to make their home a safe place to live then they should go to your house. You break it you buy it.

DP. We've tried for years to make their home a safe place to live. At a certain point, you stop handing out money that is only going to be flushed down the toilet. If you want to send your own money, feel free. But leave the rest of us out of it.

Well then I guess you’ll have to take them into your house.

Not me, sorry. But you seem extremely eager to bring them to the U.S., so be sure and make it known that you can sponsor several families.

I am not trying to bring them to the US. I think we should fix the actual issue - the one we helped create - violence and instability in CA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey 19:10, Can they please come to your house? You say no way, Jose? Where exactly do you want them to go?

Crickets.

Well since you don’t want to make their home a safe place to live then they should go to your house. You break it you buy it.

DP. We've tried for years to make their home a safe place to live. At a certain point, you stop handing out money that is only going to be flushed down the toilet. If you want to send your own money, feel free. But leave the rest of us out of it.

Well then I guess you’ll have to take them into your house.

Not me, sorry. But you seem extremely eager to bring them to the U.S., so be sure and make it known that you can sponsor several families.

I am not trying to bring them to the US. I think we should fix the actual issue - the one we helped create - violence and instability in CA.

Good luck with that. Tough to control forgiegn countries. We have enough right here at home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey 19:10, Can they please come to your house? You say no way, Jose? Where exactly do you want them to go?

Crickets.

Well since you don’t want to make their home a safe place to live then they should go to your house. You break it you buy it.

DP. We've tried for years to make their home a safe place to live. At a certain point, you stop handing out money that is only going to be flushed down the toilet. If you want to send your own money, feel free. But leave the rest of us out of it.

Well then I guess you’ll have to take them into your house.

Not me, sorry. But you seem extremely eager to bring them to the U.S., so be sure and make it known that you can sponsor several families.

I am not trying to bring them to the US. I think we should fix the actual issue - the one we helped create - violence and instability in CA.

Good luck with that. Tough to control forgiegn countries. We have enough right here at home.

Worked for Colombia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey 19:10, Can they please come to your house? You say no way, Jose? Where exactly do you want them to go?

Crickets.

Well since you don’t want to make their home a safe place to live then they should go to your house. You break it you buy it.

DP. We've tried for years to make their home a safe place to live. At a certain point, you stop handing out money that is only going to be flushed down the toilet. If you want to send your own money, feel free. But leave the rest of us out of it.

Well then I guess you’ll have to take them into your house.

Not me, sorry. But you seem extremely eager to bring them to the U.S., so be sure and make it known that you can sponsor several families.

I am not trying to bring them to the US. I think we should fix the actual issue - the one we helped create - violence and instability in CA.

So again, send your own money, volunteer your own time in these countries. And leave the rest of us out of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey 19:10, Can they please come to your house? You say no way, Jose? Where exactly do you want them to go?

Crickets.

Well since you don’t want to make their home a safe place to live then they should go to your house. You break it you buy it.

DP. We've tried for years to make their home a safe place to live. At a certain point, you stop handing out money that is only going to be flushed down the toilet. If you want to send your own money, feel free. But leave the rest of us out of it.

Well then I guess you’ll have to take them into your house.

Not me, sorry. But you seem extremely eager to bring them to the U.S., so be sure and make it known that you can sponsor several families.

They can always find work at Trump's golf resorts.