What is going on with student loans?

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Source: https://educationdata.org/student-loan-debt-by-income-level



I’m pretty sure loan forgiveness won’t be for the UMC or rich.


Tell a barber or a mechanic in the mid west or the south that someone making $125K (individual) or $250K (family) is not UMC.
They will laugh in your face.



They could have taken out loans and gone to college!?


And some CHOSE not to! It’s ok to do that too. But now we don’t have student loan debt and have to help pay for those that DID choose to go to college. We live the way we want to, but don’t want to pay for others to live the way they want to . The entitlement mentality in this country will do it in mark my words.


Ok but they made the CHOICE not to take out student loans. As others have pointed out, we got to pay for all the business owners who chose to take PPP loans. We also get to pay for all those who chose to go on SSDI (aka white people welfare). Part of being an American is having your tax money go to things you don’t agree with. Duh!
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Source: https://educationdata.org/student-loan-debt-by-income-level



I’m pretty sure loan forgiveness won’t be for the UMC or rich.


Tell a barber or a mechanic in the mid west or the south that someone making $125K (individual) or $250K (family) is not UMC.
They will laugh in your face.



They could have taken out loans and gone to college!?


What a stupid comment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:blah blah blah, same people looking for a handout will be asking for another handout in the future. waste of time.


You're right, Americans have been getting handouts for a long time. It's actually been a defining feature of the American experience, especially for White people.
https://aeon.co/ideas/land-and-the-roots-of-african-american-poverty
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Not really. They’re not the same. No other country gives free mortgages. But plenty of countries provide free college educations. Society benefits from an educated population. I know conservatives like to rundown higher education but come on!

Yeah but this country is filled with people like me who paid for our education and are pissed off about this.



Yes, I’m in the same boat but I’m not angry at all. I have earned a great living and was able to pay off my loans. They need help.


+100000000. Isn't this what we should be about? I have paid taxes toward public schools forever and do not have children attending public schools. I have no issue with helping out those who might need it in these tough times. I hope so many teachers benefit greatly and can use that boost for something else they need or want. This decision makes me happy.
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Not really. They’re not the same. No other country gives free mortgages. But plenty of countries provide free college educations. Society benefits from an educated population. I know conservatives like to rundown higher education but come on!

Yeah but this country is filled with people like me who paid for our education and are pissed off about this.



Yes, I’m in the same boat but I’m not angry at all. I have earned a great living and was able to pay off my loans. They need help.


+100000000. Isn't this what we should be about? I have paid taxes toward public schools forever and do not have children attending public schools. I have no issue with helping out those who might need it in these tough times. I hope so many teachers benefit greatly and can use that boost for something else they need or want. This decision makes me happy.



Exactly. It seems like many nowadays don’t want any good for others unless they personally benefit. I was very happy for the child credits during the pandemic even though I didn’t benefit from it. It’s like people have turned their backs on “the common good”.
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Anonymous wrote:He has a point




Not really. They’re not the same. No other country gives free mortgages. But plenty of countries provide free college educations. Society benefits from an educated population. I know conservatives like to rundown higher education but come on!

Yeah but this country is filled with people like me who paid for our education and are pissed off about this.



Yes, I’m in the same boat but I’m not angry at all. I have earned a great living and was able to pay off my loans. They need help.


I have a good friend who was similarly benevolent because she felt she could afford the tax increase Biden had proposed before he was elected. And she was ok with this type of thing too. Until inflation hit and her husband lost his job. He got a new one but not as good and they had to move so now they have a new mortgage and higher interest rate. It is EASY to be benevolent when you can afford it but you are being self centered in thinking that all of us can. I made decisions about where I would go to school based on tuition and the amount of loans I would need. I made decisions about the jobs I took and my
Living situations based on my debt. That is how it is done. I had to have roommates in my late twenties while at Big Law to pay for my degree. I did NOT take loans and then expect others to pay for them. It is so irresponsible and selfish. And Biden is flat out paying for votes. He is a grifter.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has a point




Not really. They’re not the same. No other country gives free mortgages. But plenty of countries provide free college educations. Society benefits from an educated population. I know conservatives like to rundown higher education but come on!

Yeah but this country is filled with people like me who paid for our education and are pissed off about this.



Yes, I’m in the same boat but I’m not angry at all. I have earned a great living and was able to pay off my loans. They need help.


+100000000. Isn't this what we should be about? I have paid taxes toward public schools forever and do not have children attending public schools. I have no issue with helping out those who might need it in these tough times. I hope so many teachers benefit greatly and can use that boost for something else they need or want. This decision makes me happy.



Teaching degrees at this point need to be free! Our country is in desperate need of teachers. We need good teachers too who are superhuman and drown out the cultural discord in this country and educate the next generation… or the US is screwed!
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Anonymous wrote:He has a point




Not really. They’re not the same. No other country gives free mortgages. But plenty of countries provide free college educations. Society benefits from an educated population. I know conservatives like to rundown higher education but come on!

Yeah but this country is filled with people like me who paid for our education and are pissed off about this.



Yes, I’m in the same boat but I’m not angry at all. I have earned a great living and was able to pay off my loans. They need help.


+100000000. Isn't this what we should be about? I have paid taxes toward public schools forever and do not have children attending public schools. I have no issue with helping out those who might need it in these tough times. I hope so many teachers benefit greatly and can use that boost for something else they need or want. This decision makes me happy.



Exactly. It seems like many nowadays don’t want any good for others unless they personally benefit. I was very happy for the child credits during the pandemic even though I didn’t benefit from it. It’s like people have turned their backs on “the common good”.


No. It isn’t what we are about. I am way more in favor of universal
Health care than paying for an UMC persons tuition. A 25 year old making 120k gets this. That’s a lot of money for a young person but they are eligible. If it were means tested or connected to public service then maybe. But this is just a give away.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has a point




Not really. They’re not the same. No other country gives free mortgages. But plenty of countries provide free college educations. Society benefits from an educated population. I know conservatives like to rundown higher education but come on!

Yeah but this country is filled with people like me who paid for our education and are pissed off about this.



Yes, I’m in the same boat but I’m not angry at all. I have earned a great living and was able to pay off my loans. They need help.


I have a good friend who was similarly benevolent because she felt she could afford the tax increase Biden had proposed before he was elected. And she was ok with this type of thing too. Until inflation hit and her husband lost his job. He got a new one but not as good and they had to move so now they have a new mortgage and higher interest rate. It is EASY to be benevolent when you can afford it but you are being self centered in thinking that all of us can. I made decisions about where I would go to school based on tuition and the amount of loans I would need. I made decisions about the jobs I took and my
Living situations based on my debt. That is how it is done. I had to have roommates in my late twenties while at Big Law to pay for my degree. I did NOT take loans and then expect others to pay for them. It is so irresponsible and selfish. And Biden is flat out paying for votes. He is a grifter.


Neither did people whose debt is being forgiven. You think an entire generation and a half went to college solely because they expected some President in the future to cancel their debt? Seems you're just bitter that other people are getting something you aren't.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has a point




Not really. They’re not the same. No other country gives free mortgages. But plenty of countries provide free college educations. Society benefits from an educated population. I know conservatives like to rundown higher education but come on!

Yeah but this country is filled with people like me who paid for our education and are pissed off about this.



Yes, I’m in the same boat but I’m not angry at all. I have earned a great living and was able to pay off my loans. They need help.


I have a good friend who was similarly benevolent because she felt she could afford the tax increase Biden had proposed before he was elected. And she was ok with this type of thing too. Until inflation hit and her husband lost his job. He got a new one but not as good and they had to move so now they have a new mortgage and higher interest rate. It is EASY to be benevolent when you can afford it but you are being self centered in thinking that all of us can. I made decisions about where I would go to school based on tuition and the amount of loans I would need. I made decisions about the jobs I took and my
Living situations based on my debt. That is how it is done. I had to have roommates in my late twenties while at Big Law to pay for my degree. I did NOT take loans and then expect others to pay for them. It is so irresponsible and selfish. And Biden is flat out paying for votes. He is a grifter.


Honey, you don’t know the first thing about me. Biden is not paying for votes. He is fulfilling a campaign promise. Similar to how the GOP campaigned on taking rights away from women.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has a point




Not really. They’re not the same. No other country gives free mortgages. But plenty of countries provide free college educations. Society benefits from an educated population. I know conservatives like to rundown higher education but come on!

Yeah but this country is filled with people like me who paid for our education and are pissed off about this.



Yes, I’m in the same boat but I’m not angry at all. I have earned a great living and was able to pay off my loans. They need help.


+100000000. Isn't this what we should be about? I have paid taxes toward public schools forever and do not have children attending public schools. I have no issue with helping out those who might need it in these tough times. I hope so many teachers benefit greatly and can use that boost for something else they need or want. This decision makes me happy.



Exactly. It seems like many nowadays don’t want any good for others unless they personally benefit. I was very happy for the child credits during the pandemic even though I didn’t benefit from it. It’s like people have turned their backs on “the common good”.


No. It isn’t what we are about. I am way more in favor of universal
Health care than paying
for an UMC persons tuition. A 25 year old making 120k gets this. That’s a lot of money for a young person but they are eligible. If it were means tested or connected to public service then maybe. But this is just a give away.



But you are voting for a party that is firmly against it and is trying to repeal the ACA. You are full of it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has a point




Not really. They’re not the same. No other country gives free mortgages. But plenty of countries provide free college educations. Society benefits from an educated population. I know conservatives like to rundown higher education but come on!

Yeah but this country is filled with people like me who paid for our education and are pissed off about this.



Yes, I’m in the same boat but I’m not angry at all. I have earned a great living and was able to pay off my loans. They need help.


I have a good friend who was similarly benevolent because she felt she could afford the tax increase Biden had proposed before he was elected. And she was ok with this type of thing too. Until inflation hit and her husband lost his job. He got a new one but not as good and they had to move so now they have a new mortgage and higher interest rate. It is EASY to be benevolent when you can afford it but you are being self centered in thinking that all of us can. I made decisions about where I would go to school based on tuition and the amount of loans I would need. I made decisions about the jobs I took and my
Living situations based on my debt. That is how it is done. I had to have roommates in my late twenties while at Big Law to pay for my degree. I did NOT take loans and then expect others to pay for them. It is so irresponsible and selfish. And Biden is flat out paying for votes. He is a grifter.


Honey, you don’t know the first thing about me. Biden is not paying for votes. He is fulfilling a campaign promise. Similar to how the GOP campaigned on taking rights away from women.


YASSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has a point




Not really. They’re not the same. No other country gives free mortgages. But plenty of countries provide free college educations. Society benefits from an educated population. I know conservatives like to rundown higher education but come on!

Yeah but this country is filled with people like me who paid for our education and are pissed off about this.



Yes, I’m in the same boat but I’m not angry at all. I have earned a great living and was able to pay off my loans. They need help.


I have a good friend who was similarly benevolent because she felt she could afford the tax increase Biden had proposed before he was elected. And she was ok with this type of thing too. Until inflation hit and her husband lost his job. He got a new one but not as good and they had to move so now they have a new mortgage and higher interest rate. It is EASY to be benevolent when you can afford it but you are being self centered in thinking that all of us can. I made decisions about where I would go to school based on tuition and the amount of loans I would need. I made decisions about the jobs I took and my
Living situations based on my debt. That is how it is done. I had to have roommates in my late twenties while at Big Law to pay for my degree. I did NOT take loans and then expect others to pay for them. It is so irresponsible and selfish. And Biden is flat out paying for votes. He is a grifter.


Honey, you don’t know the first thing about me. Biden is not paying for votes. He is fulfilling a campaign promise. Similar to how the GOP campaigned on taking rights away from women.


What if the promise was just to give every person whose name starts with F 50k every year? And your name doesn’t start with F? Suddenly every kid born is named frank or Francis. This will NOT encourage tuition responsibility. Young people take on the debt they do because schools charge way too much. School tuition has gone up astronomically since the government got so involved in loans to students. So then more loans are necessary in higher and higher amounts. The problem isn’t solved by this. This just adds to the problem. But you don’t care. This is something you like because it benefits you. But it has benefit for a huge part of the country, will actually cost all of us more in taxes and will not solve the problem. But yep, you get your 10k. I think you are being bought.
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Pp here: It has NO benefit for huge…
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has a point




Not really. They’re not the same. No other country gives free mortgages. But plenty of countries provide free college educations. Society benefits from an educated population. I know conservatives like to rundown higher education but come on!

Yeah but this country is filled with people like me who paid for our education and are pissed off about this.



Yes, I’m in the same boat but I’m not angry at all. I have earned a great living and was able to pay off my loans. They need help.


I have a good friend who was similarly benevolent because she felt she could afford the tax increase Biden had proposed before he was elected. And she was ok with this type of thing too. Until inflation hit and her husband lost his job. He got a new one but not as good and they had to move so now they have a new mortgage and higher interest rate. It is EASY to be benevolent when you can afford it but you are being self centered in thinking that all of us can. I made decisions about where I would go to school based on tuition and the amount of loans I would need. I made decisions about the jobs I took and my
Living situations based on my debt. That is how it is done. I had to have roommates in my late twenties while at Big Law to pay for my degree. I did NOT take loans and then expect others to pay for them. It is so irresponsible and selfish. And Biden is flat out paying for votes. He is a grifter.


Neither did people whose debt is being forgiven. You think an entire generation and a half went to college solely because they expected some President in the future to cancel their debt? Seems you're just bitter that other people are getting something you aren't.


Oh, FFS. It is not about this at all....

This move:
- will increase inflation
- will increase tuition costs
- will be given primarily to middle class and grad students
- will be felt most by middle class taxpayers who decided NOT to go to college and take out loans
- will teach these recipients that contracts can be ignored
- will only result in the far left demanding even *more* loan transfer .... just wait. This is a dry run.
- will send a message to future borrowers not to worry about paying off your loans... they will eventually be paid off by the tax payers when a Democrat needs to buy votes.

I hope this goes to court and it is determined that what Biden is doing is illegal.
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