Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

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The story of the immigration debate is just Republicans killing bipartisan agreements over & over.


Bipartisan as in a reform bill written by Republicans who support open borders and Democrats who support open borders.


Republicans made demands, negotiated a deal with Democrats, but won’t vote for the deal they demanded. This is what Republicans have done consistently since 1990. They never deliver the votes for changes that they demanded. There is no point in ever negotiating with Republicans. They always act in bad faith.


Since November, speaker Johnson has consistently said “it needs to be substantially similar to the border bill we’d already passed otherwise it is DOA in the house”

So establishment old-school senile Republicans in the Senate decided to ignore the base, and “negotiate” a bill that was mainly garbage and didn’t include anything from H.R. 2

This is not even remotely close to what was demanded. The demand was Ukraine aid for border restrictions—we don’t want to pour tens of billions into Ukraine but you do. We want the border restrictions passed, you don’t. Give us the border restrictions and we’ll give you the foreign aid.

Yet the ultra-until-3-days-ago “compromise” gave them the Ukraine aid for what essentially would be a performative bureaucratic mess of non-restrictions.

Teethless, so many loopholes, somehow included an increase in visas too.

It was a joke, read the bill. It’s awful.



“ The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative.”

How can it be “awful” with so much conservative support?


You’re confusing the big-business-oriented/globalist conservatives with the blue-collar base MAGA conservatives. That former makes up the “Old Guard” that most people hate because they’ve spent the last few decades screwing everyone else over. Of course they support a policy that would lead to an increase in labor and thus decrease costs.

And of course Border Patrol Union supports it, it would add more members to it’s ranks and more funding.



If our multinational corporations aren't "globalist" their American workforces and production would be a fraction of the size. I get really tired of the Bannon-trope "globalist" hate. It is truly what has made the USA what it is.


Of course the DCUMers who are in the top 5% of HHIs nationally, who have benefited from cushy consulting jobs, lobbying jobs, highest level on the GS scale (which is double the median income) who don’t actually do anything that benefits the vast majority of the country—love Globalism. You’ve benefited heavily from the hollowing out of the middle class.

You are desperately clutching at straws to distract from the fact that the GOP torpedoed their own legislation because a disgraced ex president*** told them to.
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Joes not uniting like he said he would. He’s bumbling into ww3, caused mass inflation and an out of control border. He said he would unite… not drastically underperform Trump and have nasty babbling outbursts.
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The story of the immigration debate is just Republicans killing bipartisan agreements over & over.


Bipartisan as in a reform bill written by Republicans who support open borders and Democrats who support open borders.


Republicans made demands, negotiated a deal with Democrats, but won’t vote for the deal they demanded. This is what Republicans have done consistently since 1990. They never deliver the votes for changes that they demanded. There is no point in ever negotiating with Republicans. They always act in bad faith.


Since November, speaker Johnson has consistently said “it needs to be substantially similar to the border bill we’d already passed otherwise it is DOA in the house”

So establishment old-school senile Republicans in the Senate decided to ignore the base, and “negotiate” a bill that was mainly garbage and didn’t include anything from H.R. 2

This is not even remotely close to what was demanded. The demand was Ukraine aid for border restrictions—we don’t want to pour tens of billions into Ukraine but you do. We want the border restrictions passed, you don’t. Give us the border restrictions and we’ll give you the foreign aid.

Yet the ultra-until-3-days-ago “compromise” gave them the Ukraine aid for what essentially would be a performative bureaucratic mess of non-restrictions.

Teethless, so many loopholes, somehow included an increase in visas too.

It was a joke, read the bill. It’s awful.



“ The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative.”

How can it be “awful” with so much conservative support?


You’re confusing the big-business-oriented/globalist conservatives with the blue-collar base MAGA conservatives. That former makes up the “Old Guard” that most people hate because they’ve spent the last few decades screwing everyone else over. Of course they support a policy that would lead to an increase in labor and thus decrease costs.

And of course Border Patrol Union supports it, it would add more members to it’s ranks and more funding.



If our multinational corporations aren't "globalist" their American workforces and production would be a fraction of the size. I get really tired of the Bannon-trope "globalist" hate. It is truly what has made the USA what it is.


Of course the DCUMers who are in the top 5% of HHIs nationally, who have benefited from cushy consulting jobs, lobbying jobs, highest level on the GS scale (which is double the median income) who don’t actually do anything that benefits the vast majority of the country—love Globalism. You’ve benefited heavily from the hollowing out of the middle class.


Except it is the millions of US workers across the country who work for these companies. You think MMM or Boeing employees are all cushy white collar workers in DC? That is a weird take.



Ah yes, boeing did not sell out and isn’t having problems because of it.
“Looking Back: Boeing Repeatedly Burned By Outsourcing
BY
CHRIS LOH
PUBLISHED APR 15, 2023”
https://simpleflying.com/boeing-burned-by-outsourcing/


Yes, im sure the ever decreasing and tenuously hanging onto employment because of the threat of outsourcing employees of 3m and Boeing are sooooooo happy about globalism. So much happier than the people who worked and were able to afford good MC lifestyles 30, 40+ years ago were able to without the constant worry.

Not like, because of Globalism there’s been a shrinking amount of good paying MC jobs due to outsourcing, in order to give massive returns to stockholders. Who by volume owned, are overwhelmingly in the top 10%. (Like 80%+ of all equity is owned by the top 10%)


Your beef is with capitalism?
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The story of the immigration debate is just Republicans killing bipartisan agreements over & over.


Bipartisan as in a reform bill written by Republicans who support open borders and Democrats who support open borders.


Republicans made demands, negotiated a deal with Democrats, but won’t vote for the deal they demanded. This is what Republicans have done consistently since 1990. They never deliver the votes for changes that they demanded. There is no point in ever negotiating with Republicans. They always act in bad faith.


Since November, speaker Johnson has consistently said “it needs to be substantially similar to the border bill we’d already passed otherwise it is DOA in the house”

So establishment old-school senile Republicans in the Senate decided to ignore the base, and “negotiate” a bill that was mainly garbage and didn’t include anything from H.R. 2

This is not even remotely close to what was demanded. The demand was Ukraine aid for border restrictions—we don’t want to pour tens of billions into Ukraine but you do. We want the border restrictions passed, you don’t. Give us the border restrictions and we’ll give you the foreign aid.

Yet the ultra-until-3-days-ago “compromise” gave them the Ukraine aid for what essentially would be a performative bureaucratic mess of non-restrictions.

Teethless, so many loopholes, somehow included an increase in visas too.

It was a joke, read the bill. It’s awful.



“ The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative.”

How can it be “awful” with so much conservative support?


You’re confusing the big-business-oriented/globalist conservatives with the blue-collar base MAGA conservatives. That former makes up the “Old Guard” that most people hate because they’ve spent the last few decades screwing everyone else over. Of course they support a policy that would lead to an increase in labor and thus decrease costs.

And of course Border Patrol Union supports it, it would add more members to it’s ranks and more funding.



If our multinational corporations aren't "globalist" their American workforces and production would be a fraction of the size. I get really tired of the Bannon-trope "globalist" hate. It is truly what has made the USA what it is.


Of course the DCUMers who are in the top 5% of HHIs nationally, who have benefited from cushy consulting jobs, lobbying jobs, highest level on the GS scale (which is double the median income) who don’t actually do anything that benefits the vast majority of the country—love Globalism. You’ve benefited heavily from the hollowing out of the middle class.


Except it is the millions of US workers across the country who work for these companies. You think MMM or Boeing employees are all cushy white collar workers in DC? That is a weird take.



Ah yes, boeing did not sell out and isn’t having problems because of it.
“Looking Back: Boeing Repeatedly Burned By Outsourcing
BY
CHRIS LOH
PUBLISHED APR 15, 2023”
https://simpleflying.com/boeing-burned-by-outsourcing/


Yes, im sure the ever decreasing and tenuously hanging onto employment because of the threat of outsourcing employees of 3m and Boeing are sooooooo happy about globalism. So much happier than the people who worked and were able to afford good MC lifestyles 30, 40+ years ago were able to without the constant worry.

Not like, because of Globalism there’s been a shrinking amount of good paying MC jobs due to outsourcing, in order to give massive returns to stockholders. Who by volume owned, are overwhelmingly in the top 10%. (Like 80%+ of all equity is owned by the top 10%)


Your beef is with capitalism?


Capitalism is good, as long as there’s a balance. There’s nothing wrong with privately owned means of production as long as citizens/workers are taking care of along with increasing productivity/innovations to improve lives.

Outsourcing does neither. It makes things cheaper but not even close to the same high quality. And good jobs go over seas to cheaper foreigners.

Like I said, if one understands that MAGA=/= Romney/Bush conservatism then you’d understand this.
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The story of the immigration debate is just Republicans killing bipartisan agreements over & over.


Bipartisan as in a reform bill written by Republicans who support open borders and Democrats who support open borders.


Republicans made demands, negotiated a deal with Democrats, but won’t vote for the deal they demanded. This is what Republicans have done consistently since 1990. They never deliver the votes for changes that they demanded. There is no point in ever negotiating with Republicans. They always act in bad faith.


Since November, speaker Johnson has consistently said “it needs to be substantially similar to the border bill we’d already passed otherwise it is DOA in the house”

So establishment old-school senile Republicans in the Senate decided to ignore the base, and “negotiate” a bill that was mainly garbage and didn’t include anything from H.R. 2

This is not even remotely close to what was demanded. The demand was Ukraine aid for border restrictions—we don’t want to pour tens of billions into Ukraine but you do. We want the border restrictions passed, you don’t. Give us the border restrictions and we’ll give you the foreign aid.

Yet the ultra-until-3-days-ago “compromise” gave them the Ukraine aid for what essentially would be a performative bureaucratic mess of non-restrictions.

Teethless, so many loopholes, somehow included an increase in visas too.

It was a joke, read the bill. It’s awful.



“ The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative.”

How can it be “awful” with so much conservative support?


You’re confusing the big-business-oriented/globalist conservatives with the blue-collar base MAGA conservatives. That former makes up the “Old Guard” that most people hate because they’ve spent the last few decades screwing everyone else over. Of course they support a policy that would lead to an increase in labor and thus decrease costs.

And of course Border Patrol Union supports it, it would add more members to it’s ranks and more funding.



If our multinational corporations aren't "globalist" their American workforces and production would be a fraction of the size. I get really tired of the Bannon-trope "globalist" hate. It is truly what has made the USA what it is.


Of course the DCUMers who are in the top 5% of HHIs nationally, who have benefited from cushy consulting jobs, lobbying jobs, highest level on the GS scale (which is double the median income) who don’t actually do anything that benefits the vast majority of the country—love Globalism. You’ve benefited heavily from the hollowing out of the middle class.

You are desperately clutching at straws to distract from the fact that the GOP torpedoed their own legislation because a disgraced ex president*** told them to.


The establishment GOP senate torpedoed their own bill because they wanted to hurt Trump who wants to drain the swamp they live in.

This bill was the essence of pre-Trump GOP policies that repeatedly are rejected by their own constituencies and the reason why someone like Trump is able to obliterate every GOP opponent he has.

The base doesn’t want want faster processing, we want ***less*** immigration. This bill did the former, not the latter.
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The story of the immigration debate is just Republicans killing bipartisan agreements over & over.


Bipartisan as in a reform bill written by Republicans who support open borders and Democrats who support open borders.


Republicans made demands, negotiated a deal with Democrats, but won’t vote for the deal they demanded. This is what Republicans have done consistently since 1990. They never deliver the votes for changes that they demanded. There is no point in ever negotiating with Republicans. They always act in bad faith.


Since November, speaker Johnson has consistently said “it needs to be substantially similar to the border bill we’d already passed otherwise it is DOA in the house”

So establishment old-school senile Republicans in the Senate decided to ignore the base, and “negotiate” a bill that was mainly garbage and didn’t include anything from H.R. 2

This is not even remotely close to what was demanded. The demand was Ukraine aid for border restrictions—we don’t want to pour tens of billions into Ukraine but you do. We want the border restrictions passed, you don’t. Give us the border restrictions and we’ll give you the foreign aid.

Yet the ultra-until-3-days-ago “compromise” gave them the Ukraine aid for what essentially would be a performative bureaucratic mess of non-restrictions.

Teethless, so many loopholes, somehow included an increase in visas too.

It was a joke, read the bill. It’s awful.



“ The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative.”

How can it be “awful” with so much conservative support?


You’re confusing the big-business-oriented/globalist conservatives with the blue-collar base MAGA conservatives. That former makes up the “Old Guard” that most people hate because they’ve spent the last few decades screwing everyone else over. Of course they support a policy that would lead to an increase in labor and thus decrease costs.

And of course Border Patrol Union supports it, it would add more members to it’s ranks and more funding.



If our multinational corporations aren't "globalist" their American workforces and production would be a fraction of the size. I get really tired of the Bannon-trope "globalist" hate. It is truly what has made the USA what it is.


Of course the DCUMers who are in the top 5% of HHIs nationally, who have benefited from cushy consulting jobs, lobbying jobs, highest level on the GS scale (which is double the median income) who don’t actually do anything that benefits the vast majority of the country—love Globalism. You’ve benefited heavily from the hollowing out of the middle class.

You are desperately clutching at straws to distract from the fact that the GOP torpedoed their own legislation because a disgraced ex president*** told them to.


The establishment GOP senate torpedoed their own bill because they wanted to hurt Trump who wants to drain the swamp they live in.

This bill was the essence of pre-Trump GOP policies that repeatedly are rejected by their own constituencies and the reason why someone like Trump is able to obliterate every GOP opponent he has.

The base doesn’t want want faster processing, we want ***less*** immigration. This bill did the former, not the latter.


OMG is this the new talking point? It’s a cult.
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The story of the immigration debate is just Republicans killing bipartisan agreements over & over.


Bipartisan as in a reform bill written by Republicans who support open borders and Democrats who support open borders.


Republicans made demands, negotiated a deal with Democrats, but won’t vote for the deal they demanded. This is what Republicans have done consistently since 1990. They never deliver the votes for changes that they demanded. There is no point in ever negotiating with Republicans. They always act in bad faith.


Since November, speaker Johnson has consistently said “it needs to be substantially similar to the border bill we’d already passed otherwise it is DOA in the house”

So establishment old-school senile Republicans in the Senate decided to ignore the base, and “negotiate” a bill that was mainly garbage and didn’t include anything from H.R. 2

This is not even remotely close to what was demanded. The demand was Ukraine aid for border restrictions—we don’t want to pour tens of billions into Ukraine but you do. We want the border restrictions passed, you don’t. Give us the border restrictions and we’ll give you the foreign aid.

Yet the ultra-until-3-days-ago “compromise” gave them the Ukraine aid for what essentially would be a performative bureaucratic mess of non-restrictions.

Teethless, so many loopholes, somehow included an increase in visas too.

It was a joke, read the bill. It’s awful.



“ The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative.”

How can it be “awful” with so much conservative support?


You’re confusing the big-business-oriented/globalist conservatives with the blue-collar base MAGA conservatives. That former makes up the “Old Guard” that most people hate because they’ve spent the last few decades screwing everyone else over. Of course they support a policy that would lead to an increase in labor and thus decrease costs.

And of course Border Patrol Union supports it, it would add more members to it’s ranks and more funding.



If our multinational corporations aren't "globalist" their American workforces and production would be a fraction of the size. I get really tired of the Bannon-trope "globalist" hate. It is truly what has made the USA what it is.


Of course the DCUMers who are in the top 5% of HHIs nationally, who have benefited from cushy consulting jobs, lobbying jobs, highest level on the GS scale (which is double the median income) who don’t actually do anything that benefits the vast majority of the country—love Globalism. You’ve benefited heavily from the hollowing out of the middle class.

You are desperately clutching at straws to distract from the fact that the GOP torpedoed their own legislation because a disgraced ex president*** told them to.


The establishment GOP senate torpedoed their own bill because they wanted to hurt Trump who wants to drain the swamp they live in.

This bill was the essence of pre-Trump GOP policies that repeatedly are rejected by their own constituencies and the reason why someone like Trump is able to obliterate every GOP opponent he has.

The base doesn’t want want faster processing, we want ***less*** immigration. This bill did the former, not the latter.


Oceana has always been at war with Eastasia.
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Faster processing time means faster deportations.
Quicker faster deportations, means fewer migrants attempting to cross in the long run.
Republicans don’t want a secure border.
VOTE THEM OUT.
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Anonymous wrote:It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.


The reason is that it was not a border protection bill. It was an immigration bill.
It would not solve the border crisis. And, it wouldn't help. A bad bill is worse than no bill at all.

It's hilarious that Biden and his cronies are trying to pin the border crisis on Republicans. Gaslighting, anyone?
Biden has been a total disaster. Fortunately, the voting public knows the truth.


Oh stop lying. This bill is what the GOP had been asking for for months. Apparently there isn’t actually a crisis at the border since they think this can wait until next year to get done


That is the biggest crock of monkey doo doo.
When Jeh Johnson says that 1000 encounters at the border in a day represents a crisis, there is no way in hell 5000+ encounters would be acceptable. That is a no-go. And, then when you look deeper and see all the exceptions to the encounters - like UAC from "noncontiguous countries" would not be included - it gets even worse. Then, you see that NGO would get billions it is a deal breaker.

This is NOTHING like what Republicans want. NOTHING.

Yes, there is a crisis at the border. It is one of Biden's making. Despite what Mayorkas or Biden will say - there is a crisis. This bill would not end the crisis. It would only exacerbate it. That is why Biden wants it.


Biden doesn't have the same tools trump had because Trump abused a law that the courts subsequently overturned. So, not, this is not Biden's making, but the GOP refusing to pass a law that gives Biden the same tools Trump had puts the anvil on the GOP.


Biden sure as hell does have the tools. Beginning with this:

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Anonymous wrote:Faster processing time means faster deportations.
Quicker faster deportations, means fewer migrants attempting to cross in the long run.
Republicans don’t want a secure border.
VOTE THEM OUT.


We can compare the 4 years under Trump to the last 3 years under Biden as proof that what you stated is unequivocally false.
The voters know that it is Biden and his worthless administration that doesn't want a secure border.
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Anonymous wrote:It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.


The reason is that it was not a border protection bill. It was an immigration bill.
It would not solve the border crisis. And, it wouldn't help. A bad bill is worse than no bill at all.

It's hilarious that Biden and his cronies are trying to pin the border crisis on Republicans. Gaslighting, anyone?
Biden has been a total disaster. Fortunately, the voting public knows the truth.


Oh stop lying. This bill is what the GOP had been asking for for months. Apparently there isn’t actually a crisis at the border since they think this can wait until next year to get done


That is the biggest crock of monkey doo doo.
When Jeh Johnson says that 1000 encounters at the border in a day represents a crisis, there is no way in hell 5000+ encounters would be acceptable. That is a no-go. And, then when you look deeper and see all the exceptions to the encounters - like UAC from "noncontiguous countries" would not be included - it gets even worse. Then, you see that NGO would get billions it is a deal breaker.

This is NOTHING like what Republicans want. NOTHING.

Yes, there is a crisis at the border. It is one of Biden's making. Despite what Mayorkas or Biden will say - there is a crisis. This bill would not end the crisis. It would only exacerbate it. That is why Biden wants it.


Biden doesn't have the same tools trump had because Trump abused a law that the courts subsequently overturned. So, not, this is not Biden's making, but the GOP refusing to pass a law that gives Biden the same tools Trump had puts the anvil on the GOP.


Biden sure as hell does have the tools. Beginning with this:



How come Trump couldn’t / wouldn’t do it when he was in office?
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Anonymous wrote:It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.


The reason is that it was not a border protection bill. It was an immigration bill.
It would not solve the border crisis. And, it wouldn't help. A bad bill is worse than no bill at all.

It's hilarious that Biden and his cronies are trying to pin the border crisis on Republicans. Gaslighting, anyone?
Biden has been a total disaster. Fortunately, the voting public knows the truth.


Oh stop lying. This bill is what the GOP had been asking for for months. Apparently there isn’t actually a crisis at the border since they think this can wait until next year to get done


That is the biggest crock of monkey doo doo.
When Jeh Johnson says that 1000 encounters at the border in a day represents a crisis, there is no way in hell 5000+ encounters would be acceptable. That is a no-go. And, then when you look deeper and see all the exceptions to the encounters - like UAC from "noncontiguous countries" would not be included - it gets even worse. Then, you see that NGO would get billions it is a deal breaker.

This is NOTHING like what Republicans want. NOTHING.

Yes, there is a crisis at the border. It is one of Biden's making. Despite what Mayorkas or Biden will say - there is a crisis. This bill would not end the crisis. It would only exacerbate it. That is why Biden wants it.


Biden doesn't have the same tools trump had because Trump abused a law that the courts subsequently overturned. So, not, this is not Biden's making, but the GOP refusing to pass a law that gives Biden the same tools Trump had puts the anvil on the GOP.


Biden sure as hell does have the tools. Beginning with this:



Are you going to keep lying about this? It’s been pointed out hundred time that Trump tried to “close the border” using this statute and the court said that was illegal.
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Anonymous wrote:It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.


The reason is that it was not a border protection bill. It was an immigration bill.
It would not solve the border crisis. And, it wouldn't help. A bad bill is worse than no bill at all.

It's hilarious that Biden and his cronies are trying to pin the border crisis on Republicans. Gaslighting, anyone?
Biden has been a total disaster. Fortunately, the voting public knows the truth.


Oh stop lying. This bill is what the GOP had been asking for for months. Apparently there isn’t actually a crisis at the border since they think this can wait until next year to get done


That is the biggest crock of monkey doo doo.
When Jeh Johnson says that 1000 encounters at the border in a day represents a crisis, there is no way in hell 5000+ encounters would be acceptable. That is a no-go. And, then when you look deeper and see all the exceptions to the encounters - like UAC from "noncontiguous countries" would not be included - it gets even worse. Then, you see that NGO would get billions it is a deal breaker.

This is NOTHING like what Republicans want. NOTHING.

Yes, there is a crisis at the border. It is one of Biden's making. Despite what Mayorkas or Biden will say - there is a crisis. This bill would not end the crisis. It would only exacerbate it. That is why Biden wants it.


Biden doesn't have the same tools trump had because Trump abused a law that the courts subsequently overturned. So, not, this is not Biden's making, but the GOP refusing to pass a law that gives Biden the same tools Trump had puts the anvil on the GOP.


Biden sure as hell does have the tools. Beginning with this:



How come Trump couldn’t / wouldn’t do it when he was in office?


He actually did. And the court said that law didn’t allow him to do that.
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Democrats had full power to do something about the border. But they did nothing, absolutely nothing, but look the other way. Because they didn't want to do anything about the border. They wanted an open border. More workers, more Democrat voters, flip Texas blue, rub it in the nose of the powerless Republicans.

It's squarely their mess. And now they're trying to blame it on the Republicans? Why should the Republicans help the Democrats when the Republicans have been calling out the Democrats' failures on the border for the last four years as well as the Democrats' failures to care about illegal immigration when Turnip was president and instead battle him every step of the way and undo everything Turnip did on the border, including stopping the wall.

Whatever. Democrats made it their problem and now they're squealing. I have no particular fondness of either party but in this instance the Democratic party is beyond insane and hypocritical and morally bankrupt.
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