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The story of the immigration debate is just Republicans killing bipartisan agreements over & over. [/quote]

Bipartisan as in a reform bill written by Republicans who support open borders and Democrats who support open borders.[/quote]

Republicans made demands, negotiated a deal with Democrats, but won’t vote for the deal they demanded. This is what Republicans have done consistently since 1990. They never deliver the votes for changes that they demanded. There is no point in ever negotiating with Republicans. They always act in bad faith. [/quote]

Since November, speaker Johnson has consistently said “it needs to be substantially similar to the border bill we’d already passed otherwise it is DOA in the house”

So establishment old-school senile Republicans in the Senate decided to ignore the base, and “negotiate” a bill that was mainly garbage and [b]didn’t include anything[/b] from H.R. 2

This is not even remotely close to what was demanded. The demand was Ukraine aid for border restrictions—we don’t want to pour tens of billions into Ukraine but you do. We want the border restrictions passed, you don’t. Give us the border restrictions and we’ll give you the foreign aid.

Yet the ultra-until-3-days-ago “compromise” gave them the Ukraine aid for what essentially would be a performative bureaucratic mess of non-restrictions.

Teethless, so many loopholes, somehow included an increase in visas too.

It was a joke, read the bill. It’s awful.

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“ The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative.”

How can it be “awful” with so much conservative support? [/quote]

You’re confusing the big-business-oriented/globalist conservatives with the blue-collar base MAGA conservatives. That former makes up the “Old Guard” that most people hate because they’ve spent the last few decades screwing everyone else over. Of course they support a policy that would lead to an increase in labor and thus decrease costs.

And of course Border Patrol Union supports it, it would add more members to it’s ranks and more funding. [/quote]

If our multinational corporations aren't "globalist" their American workforces and production would be a fraction of the size. I get really tired of the Bannon-trope "globalist" hate. It is truly what has made the USA what it is.[/quote]

Of course the DCUMers who are in the top 5% of HHIs nationally, who have benefited from cushy consulting jobs, lobbying jobs, highest level on the GS scale (which is double the median income) who don’t actually do anything that benefits the vast majority of the country—love Globalism. You’ve benefited heavily from the hollowing out of the middle class. [/quote]

Except it is the millions of US workers across the country who work for these companies. You think MMM or Boeing employees are all cushy white collar workers in DC? That is a weird take.[/quote]

Ah yes, boeing did not sell out and isn’t having problems because of it.
“Looking Back: Boeing Repeatedly Burned By Outsourcing
BY
CHRIS LOH
PUBLISHED APR 15, 2023”
https://simpleflying.com/boeing-burned-by-outsourcing/

Yes, im sure the ever decreasing and tenuously hanging onto employment because of the threat of outsourcing employees of 3m and Boeing are sooooooo happy about globalism. So much happier than the people who worked and were able to afford good MC lifestyles 30, 40+ years ago were able to without the constant worry.

Not like, because of Globalism there’s been a shrinking amount of good paying MC jobs due to outsourcing, in order to give massive returns to stockholders. Who by volume owned, are overwhelmingly in the top 10%. (Like 80%+ of all equity is owned by the top 10%)
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Your beef is with capitalism?[/quote]

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