Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.

The reason is that it was not a border protection bill. It was an immigration bill.
It would not solve the border crisis. And, it wouldn't help. A bad bill is worse than no bill at all.

It's hilarious that Biden and his cronies are trying to pin the border crisis on Republicans. Gaslighting, anyone?
Biden has been a total disaster. Fortunately, the voting public knows the truth.

Oh stop lying. This bill is what the GOP had been asking for for months. Apparently there isn’t actually a crisis at the border since they think this can wait until next year to get done

That is the biggest crock of monkey doo doo.
When Jeh Johnson says that 1000 encounters at the border in a day represents a crisis, there is no way in hell 5000+ encounters would be acceptable. That is a no-go. And, then when you look deeper and see all the exceptions to the encounters - like UAC from "noncontiguous countries" would not be included - it gets even worse. Then, you see that NGO would get billions it is a deal breaker.

This is NOTHING like what Republicans want. NOTHING.

Yes, there is a crisis at the border. It is one of Biden's making. Despite what Mayorkas or Biden will say - there is a crisis. This bill would not end the crisis. It would only exacerbate it. That is why Biden wants it.

[Anonymous]

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The story of the immigration debate is just Republicans killing bipartisan agreements over & over.

Bipartisan as in a reform bill written by Republicans who support open borders and Democrats who support open borders.

Republicans made demands, negotiated a deal with Democrats, but won’t vote for the deal they demanded. This is what Republicans have done consistently since 1990. They never deliver the votes for changes that they demanded. There is no point in ever negotiating with Republicans. They always act in bad faith.

Since November, speaker Johnson has consistently said “it needs to be substantially similar to the border bill we’d already passed otherwise it is DOA in the house”

So establishment old-school senile Republicans in the Senate decided to ignore the base, and “negotiate” a bill that was mainly garbage and didn’t include anything from H.R. 2

This is not even remotely close to what was demanded. The demand was Ukraine aid for border restrictions—we don’t want to pour tens of billions into Ukraine but you do. We want the border restrictions passed, you don’t. Give us the border restrictions and we’ll give you the foreign aid.

Yet the ultra-until-3-days-ago “compromise” gave them the Ukraine aid for what essentially would be a performative bureaucratic mess of non-restrictions.

Teethless, so many loopholes, somehow included an increase in visas too.

It was a joke, read the bill. It’s awful.

“ The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative.”

How can it be “awful” with so much conservative support?

You’re confusing the big-business-oriented/globalist conservatives with the blue-collar base MAGA conservatives. That former makes up the “Old Guard” that most people hate because they’ve spent the last few decades screwing everyone else over. Of course they support a policy that would lead to an increase in labor and thus decrease costs.

And of course Border Patrol Union supports it, it would add more members to it’s ranks and more funding.

globalism = capitalism

isolationism = communism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.

The reason is that it was not a border protection bill. It was an immigration bill.
It would not solve the border crisis. And, it wouldn't help. A bad bill is worse than no bill at all.

It's hilarious that Biden and his cronies are trying to pin the border crisis on Republicans. Gaslighting, anyone?
Biden has been a total disaster. Fortunately, the voting public knows the truth.

Oh stop lying. This bill is what the GOP had been asking for for months. Apparently there isn’t actually a crisis at the border since they think this can wait until next year to get done

That is the biggest crock of monkey doo doo.
When Jeh Johnson says that 1000 encounters at the border in a day represents a crisis, there is no way in hell 5000+ encounters would be acceptable. That is a no-go. And, then when you look deeper and see all the exceptions to the encounters - like UAC from "noncontiguous countries" would not be included - it gets even worse. Then, you see that NGO would get billions it is a deal breaker.

This is NOTHING like what Republicans want. NOTHING.

Yes, there is a crisis at the border. It is one of Biden's making. Despite what Mayorkas or Biden will say - there is a crisis. This bill would not end the crisis. It would only exacerbate it. That is why Biden wants it.

Didn't a R negotiate this deal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.

The reason is that it was not a border protection bill. It was an immigration bill.
It would not solve the border crisis. And, it wouldn't help. A bad bill is worse than no bill at all.

It's hilarious that Biden and his cronies are trying to pin the border crisis on Republicans. Gaslighting, anyone?
Biden has been a total disaster. Fortunately, the voting public knows the truth.

Oh stop lying. This bill is what the GOP had been asking for for months. Apparently there isn’t actually a crisis at the border since they think this can wait until next year to get done

That is the biggest crock of monkey doo doo.
When Jeh Johnson says that 1000 encounters at the border in a day represents a crisis, there is no way in hell 5000+ encounters would be acceptable. That is a no-go. And, then when you look deeper and see all the exceptions to the encounters - like UAC from "noncontiguous countries" would not be included - it gets even worse. Then, you see that NGO would get billions it is a deal breaker.

This is NOTHING like what Republicans want. NOTHING.

Yes, there is a crisis at the border. It is one of Biden's making. Despite what Mayorkas or Biden will say - there is a crisis. This bill would not end the crisis. It would only exacerbate it. That is why Biden wants it.

Maybe it is something some xenophbic republicans don't want, but the majority of the bill was created by one of the most conservative republicans in the senate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.

The reason is that it was not a border protection bill. It was an immigration bill.
It would not solve the border crisis. And, it wouldn't help. A bad bill is worse than no bill at all.

It's hilarious that Biden and his cronies are trying to pin the border crisis on Republicans. Gaslighting, anyone?
Biden has been a total disaster. Fortunately, the voting public knows the truth.

Oh stop lying. This bill is what the GOP had been asking for for months. Apparently there isn’t actually a crisis at the border since they think this can wait until next year to get done

That is the biggest crock of monkey doo doo.
When Jeh Johnson says that 1000 encounters at the border in a day represents a crisis, there is no way in hell 5000+ encounters would be acceptable. That is a no-go. And, then when you look deeper and see all the exceptions to the encounters - like UAC from "noncontiguous countries" would not be included - it gets even worse. Then, you see that NGO would get billions it is a deal breaker.

This is NOTHING like what Republicans want. NOTHING.

Yes, there is a crisis at the border. It is one of Biden's making. Despite what Mayorkas or Biden will say - there is a crisis. This bill would not end the crisis. It would only exacerbate it. That is why Biden wants it.

Biden doesn't have the same tools trump had because Trump abused a law that the courts subsequently overturned. So, not, this is not Biden's making, but the GOP refusing to pass a law that gives Biden the same tools Trump had puts the anvil on the GOP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is entirely on the GOP members of Congress. Why do they let Trump grip their nether regions in a vise? Shame, shame!

Nah, read the bill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He doesn't want them to do a border deal because he wants to use it as a campaign issue against Biden. This at a time when both sides are willing to talk.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/25/politics/gop-senators-angry-trump-immigration-deal/index.html

Biden undid everything that secured the border. He could fix all this with the stroke of a pen. He won't. And you know why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is entirely on the GOP members of Congress. Why do they let Trump grip their nether regions in a vise? Shame, shame!

Nah, read the bill.

No, you read the bill your own GOP was for until Trump said no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.

The reason is that it was not a border protection bill. It was an immigration bill.
It would not solve the border crisis. And, it wouldn't help. A bad bill is worse than no bill at all.

It's hilarious that Biden and his cronies are trying to pin the border crisis on Republicans. Gaslighting, anyone?
Biden has been a total disaster. Fortunately, the voting public knows the truth.

Nope, it was pure politics. They don’t want to solve the problem because then they wouldn’t be able to demagogue it. Don’t take it from me, take it from Republican Senator Lankford.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.

The reason is that it was not a border protection bill. It was an immigration bill.
It would not solve the border crisis. And, it wouldn't help. A bad bill is worse than no bill at all.

It's hilarious that Biden and his cronies are trying to pin the border crisis on Republicans. Gaslighting, anyone?
Biden has been a total disaster. Fortunately, the voting public knows the truth.

Oh stop lying. This bill is what the GOP had been asking for for months. Apparently there isn’t actually a crisis at the border since they think this can wait until next year to get done

That is the biggest crock of monkey doo doo.
When Jeh Johnson says that 1000 encounters at the border in a day represents a crisis, there is no way in hell 5000+ encounters would be acceptable. That is a no-go. And, then when you look deeper and see all the exceptions to the encounters - like UAC from "noncontiguous countries" would not be included - it gets even worse. Then, you see that NGO would get billions it is a deal breaker.

This is NOTHING like what Republicans want. NOTHING.

Yes, there is a crisis at the border. It is one of Biden's making. Despite what Mayorkas or Biden will say - there is a crisis. This bill would not end the crisis. It would only exacerbate it. That is why Biden wants it.

Didn't a R negotiate this deal?

McConnells staff WROTE the bill. And then he voted against it. It’s reported in the paper today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He doesn't want them to do a border deal because he wants to use it as a campaign issue against Biden. This at a time when both sides are willing to talk.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/25/politics/gop-senators-angry-trump-immigration-deal/index.html

Biden undid everything that secured the border. He could fix all this with the stroke of a pen. He won't. And you know why.

Yes. EOs Don’t supersede legislation. That’s why.

[Anonymous]

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The story of the immigration debate is just Republicans killing bipartisan agreements over & over.

Bipartisan as in a reform bill written by Republicans who support open borders and Democrats who support open borders.

Republicans made demands, negotiated a deal with Democrats, but won’t vote for the deal they demanded. This is what Republicans have done consistently since 1990. They never deliver the votes for changes that they demanded. There is no point in ever negotiating with Republicans. They always act in bad faith.

Since November, speaker Johnson has consistently said “it needs to be substantially similar to the border bill we’d already passed otherwise it is DOA in the house”

So establishment old-school senile Republicans in the Senate decided to ignore the base, and “negotiate” a bill that was mainly garbage and didn’t include anything from H.R. 2

This is not even remotely close to what was demanded. The demand was Ukraine aid for border restrictions—we don’t want to pour tens of billions into Ukraine but you do. We want the border restrictions passed, you don’t. Give us the border restrictions and we’ll give you the foreign aid.

Yet the ultra-until-3-days-ago “compromise” gave them the Ukraine aid for what essentially would be a performative bureaucratic mess of non-restrictions.

Teethless, so many loopholes, somehow included an increase in visas too.

It was a joke, read the bill. It’s awful.

“ The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative.”

How can it be “awful” with so much conservative support?

You’re confusing the big-business-oriented/globalist conservatives with the blue-collar base MAGA conservatives. That former makes up the “Old Guard” that most people hate because they’ve spent the last few decades screwing everyone else over. Of course they support a policy that would lead to an increase in labor and thus decrease costs.

And of course Border Patrol Union supports it, it would add more members to it’s ranks and more funding.

If our multinational corporations aren't "globalist" their American workforces and production would be a fraction of the size. I get really tired of the Bannon-trope "globalist" hate. It is truly what has made the USA what it is.

Of course the DCUMers who are in the top 5% of HHIs nationally, who have benefited from cushy consulting jobs, lobbying jobs, highest level on the GS scale (which is double the median income) who don’t actually do anything that benefits the vast majority of the country—love Globalism. You’ve benefited heavily from the hollowing out of the middle class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The story of the immigration debate is just Republicans killing bipartisan agreements over & over.

Bipartisan as in a reform bill written by Republicans who support open borders and Democrats who support open borders.

Republicans made demands, negotiated a deal with Democrats, but won’t vote for the deal they demanded. This is what Republicans have done consistently since 1990. They never deliver the votes for changes that they demanded. There is no point in ever negotiating with Republicans. They always act in bad faith.

Since November, speaker Johnson has consistently said “it needs to be substantially similar to the border bill we’d already passed otherwise it is DOA in the house”

So establishment old-school senile Republicans in the Senate decided to ignore the base, and “negotiate” a bill that was mainly garbage and didn’t include anything from H.R. 2

This is not even remotely close to what was demanded. The demand was Ukraine aid for border restrictions—we don’t want to pour tens of billions into Ukraine but you do. We want the border restrictions passed, you don’t. Give us the border restrictions and we’ll give you the foreign aid.

Yet the ultra-until-3-days-ago “compromise” gave them the Ukraine aid for what essentially would be a performative bureaucratic mess of non-restrictions.

Teethless, so many loopholes, somehow included an increase in visas too.

It was a joke, read the bill. It’s awful.

“ The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative.”

How can it be “awful” with so much conservative support?

You’re confusing the big-business-oriented/globalist conservatives with the blue-collar base MAGA conservatives. That former makes up the “Old Guard” that most people hate because they’ve spent the last few decades screwing everyone else over. Of course they support a policy that would lead to an increase in labor and thus decrease costs.

And of course Border Patrol Union supports it, it would add more members to it’s ranks and more funding.

If our multinational corporations aren't "globalist" their American workforces and production would be a fraction of the size. I get really tired of the Bannon-trope "globalist" hate. It is truly what has made the USA what it is.

Of course the DCUMers who are in the top 5% of HHIs nationally, who have benefited from cushy consulting jobs, lobbying jobs, highest level on the GS scale (which is double the median income) who don’t actually do anything that benefits the vast majority of the country—love Globalism. You’ve benefited heavily from the hollowing out of the middle class.

Except it is the millions of US workers across the country who work for these companies. You think MMM or Boeing employees are all cushy white collar workers in DC? That is a weird take.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.

The reason is that it was not a border protection bill. It was an immigration bill.
It would not solve the border crisis. And, it wouldn't help. A bad bill is worse than no bill at all.

It's hilarious that Biden and his cronies are trying to pin the border crisis on Republicans. Gaslighting, anyone?
Biden has been a total disaster. Fortunately, the voting public knows the truth.

Oh stop lying. This bill is what the GOP had been asking for for months. Apparently there isn’t actually a crisis at the border since they think this can wait until next year to get done

That is the biggest crock of monkey doo doo.
When Jeh Johnson says that 1000 encounters at the border in a day represents a crisis, there is no way in hell 5000+ encounters would be acceptable. That is a no-go. And, then when you look deeper and see all the exceptions to the encounters - like UAC from "noncontiguous countries" would not be included - it gets even worse. Then, you see that NGO would get billions it is a deal breaker.

This is NOTHING like what Republicans want. NOTHING.

Yes, there is a crisis at the border. It is one of Biden's making. Despite what Mayorkas or Biden will say - there is a crisis. This bill would not end the crisis. It would only exacerbate it. That is why Biden wants it.

Didn't a R negotiate this deal?

McConnells staff WROTE the bill. And then he voted against it. It’s reported in the paper today.

Because McConnell is a POS. He knew the base wouldn’t go for it, and he hates Trump because he, as an establishment GOP senator is literally part of the swamp and Trump wants to drain it. McConnell honestly is probably much happier with having Biden as president. But he has to find round-about ways to support him (like helping take the immigration pressure off of Dems) because his base would revolt if he openly advocated for the stuff he personally wants. (Cheap labor, mass immigration, massive funding for foreign conflicts, etc)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The story of the immigration debate is just Republicans killing bipartisan agreements over & over.

Bipartisan as in a reform bill written by Republicans who support open borders and Democrats who support open borders.

Republicans made demands, negotiated a deal with Democrats, but won’t vote for the deal they demanded. This is what Republicans have done consistently since 1990. They never deliver the votes for changes that they demanded. There is no point in ever negotiating with Republicans. They always act in bad faith.

Since November, speaker Johnson has consistently said “it needs to be substantially similar to the border bill we’d already passed otherwise it is DOA in the house”

So establishment old-school senile Republicans in the Senate decided to ignore the base, and “negotiate” a bill that was mainly garbage and didn’t include anything from H.R. 2

This is not even remotely close to what was demanded. The demand was Ukraine aid for border restrictions—we don’t want to pour tens of billions into Ukraine but you do. We want the border restrictions passed, you don’t. Give us the border restrictions and we’ll give you the foreign aid.

Yet the ultra-until-3-days-ago “compromise” gave them the Ukraine aid for what essentially would be a performative bureaucratic mess of non-restrictions.

Teethless, so many loopholes, somehow included an increase in visas too.

It was a joke, read the bill. It’s awful.

“ The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative.”

How can it be “awful” with so much conservative support?

You’re confusing the big-business-oriented/globalist conservatives with the blue-collar base MAGA conservatives. That former makes up the “Old Guard” that most people hate because they’ve spent the last few decades screwing everyone else over. Of course they support a policy that would lead to an increase in labor and thus decrease costs.

And of course Border Patrol Union supports it, it would add more members to it’s ranks and more funding.

If our multinational corporations aren't "globalist" their American workforces and production would be a fraction of the size. I get really tired of the Bannon-trope "globalist" hate. It is truly what has made the USA what it is.

Of course the DCUMers who are in the top 5% of HHIs nationally, who have benefited from cushy consulting jobs, lobbying jobs, highest level on the GS scale (which is double the median income) who don’t actually do anything that benefits the vast majority of the country—love Globalism. You’ve benefited heavily from the hollowing out of the middle class.

Except it is the millions of US workers across the country who work for these companies. You think MMM or Boeing employees are all cushy white collar workers in DC? That is a weird take.

Ah yes, boeing did not sell out and isn’t having problems because of it.
“Looking Back: Boeing Repeatedly Burned By Outsourcing
BY
CHRIS LOH
PUBLISHED APR 15, 2023”
https://simpleflying.com/boeing-burned-by-outsourcing/


Yes, im sure the ever decreasing and tenuously hanging onto employment because of the threat of outsourcing employees of 3m and Boeing are sooooooo happy about globalism. So much happier than the people who worked and were able to afford good MC lifestyles 30, 40+ years ago were able to without the constant worry.

Not like, because of Globalism there’s been a shrinking amount of good paying MC jobs due to outsourcing, in order to give massive returns to stockholders. Who by volume owned, are overwhelmingly in the top 10%. (Like 80%+ of all equity is owned by the top 10%)