Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

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Anonymous wrote:Shameful lack of testing ability:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/26/coronavirus-cdc-117779

Why on earth don’t we ask more competent countries for help??

Sheer arrogance of people at the CDC.

My son was brought to ER with a 104 fever and obvious signs of pneumonia. WHO trained doctor stood across the room, ordered no tests, no chest Xray and called it viral. Next day his doc opened and he was there first thing. Immediate chest XRAY and antibiotics.

WHO doesn't train doctors. It has no residencies or internships for medical students. The fact that you had a bad doctor who had worked for WHO in the past is a really ignorant thing to say and has no relevance here.

[Anonymous]

BNO News Twitter reports:

French President Macron on coronavirus: "We have a crisis before us. An epidemic is on its way" - Reuters

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Anonymous wrote:Link to Enterprise Yolo County News with story on the patient at UC Davis.

Reads almost word for word like the Reddit post a PP posted.

https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-coronavirus-patient-being-treated-at-uc-davis-medical-center/

"No known contact with infected individual"

They have no way of knowing this except for the patient's word. And that person has no idea either.

Thus the words “no known”.

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Patient is intubated and on vent so I doubt he has said much of anything. It probably just means that he hasn't been to Asia recently and, as far as his family knows, he hasn't been hanging out with anyone with the virus. I'd be curious what his job is...if he works in a big S.F. hotel, that's pretty different from a situation where he works in a vineyard, or in an office in Sacramento.

Or a wine tasting room, or a fast food place, or a big box store, or a craft brewery...,

I really wouldn't worry about this "patient 0" He was just the first guy to get tested. There's probably much spread in the community. Probably he got it from his grandkid or from the guy delivering the groceries..... there's no point in specifics, just find out how much spread there is overall. Are we in week 3 or week 5 of the outbreak?

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Anonymous wrote:Link to Enterprise Yolo County News with story on the patient at UC Davis.

Reads almost word for word like the Reddit post a PP posted.

https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-coronavirus-patient-being-treated-at-uc-davis-medical-center/

"No known contact with infected individual"

They have no way of knowing this except for the patient's word. And that person has no idea either.

Thus the words “no known”.

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Patient is intubated and on vent so I doubt he has said much of anything. It probably just means that he hasn't been to Asia recently and, as far as his family knows, he hasn't been hanging out with anyone with the virus. I'd be curious what his job is...if he works in a big S.F. hotel, that's pretty different from a situation where he works in a vineyard, or in an office in Sacramento.

The patient currently at UC Davis was transferred already on a vent and respirator from a smaller hospital in California where presumably he had been ill for at least a week or more likely two weeks, with no suspicion of coronavirus. This is what happened in Italy (and Iran). There has probably been community spread throughout this region of California for at least 2 weeks, and now the severe cases will begin to up up when they need breathing assistance.

Agreed. He was probably one of 25 people three or four weeks ago. Could be a thousand infected there now. And with no ability to test that many, it will continue to spread rapidly.

They should close all schools in that county region now.

[Anonymous]

Japan closes schools until late March.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/japan-to-close-schools-nationwide-to-control-spread-of-virus/

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Anonymous wrote:How many folks who are able to telework in DC area will ask to do so? I’m considering. Not so much for me, but for my elderly father I care for.

I’m a daycare worker. What usually happens when the federal government calls for telework or liberal leave is people bring their kids to daycare and go back home to work. It doesn’t matter if it’s a sheet of ice outside. People will risk life and limb to get their kids out of the house for the day. I fully expect if quarantines start, I will be caring for kids when we would all be safer at home.

You cannot telework without childcare. Workers can be fired for not having childcare. It is in the telework agreement everyone signs.

You don’t get to force people to go to work to protect your job. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shameful lack of testing ability:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/26/coronavirus-cdc-117779

Why on earth don’t we ask more competent countries for help??

Sheer arrogance of people at the CDC.

My son was brought to ER with a 104 fever and obvious signs of pneumonia. WHO trained doctor stood across the room, ordered no tests, no chest Xray and called it viral. Next day his doc opened and he was there first thing. Immediate chest XRAY and antibiotics.

WHO doesn't train doctors. It has no residencies or internships for medical students. The fact that you had a bad doctor who had worked for WHO in the past is a really ignorant thing to say and has no relevance here.

The doctor himself told me he’d been all around the world with WHO and yes, they train doctors to their way of doing things.

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Anonymous wrote:How many folks who are able to telework in DC area will ask to do so? I’m considering. Not so much for me, but for my elderly father I care for.

I wold think that putting everyone who can be on telecommute now would semi isolate huge group of people improving odds. This is how prevention works. If there is no harm to effectiveness lets do it now. Kids have no reason to be subjected to school closing at this time because there is no imminent threat and their learning would suffer. But telecommute is really a great and easy preventive measure and zero cost.
Some gain, no traffic, pollution reduced, more rested people earned two hours time a day in commute waste, could also be stronger more rested and their immune system would be charged and ready to fight any silly germ.

The kids will be bringing the virus home to their parents and their parents will still be running out to do errands. No one is going to send their kid to school and then continually isolate themselves at home.

School closure as a mitigation strategy for an illness spread like flu has been studied a lot. I think it's been found that early school closure (before a lot of kids are sick actually) can really slow the community wide infection rate down a lot and thus reduce the burden of the disease on health care systems by spreading cases out over longer timeframe.

When you send the kids back to school community wide infection rates go back up and everyone is infected that was going to be over time. But it spreads the cases out.

https://nccid.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/03/SchoolClosures_ENG.pdf

I thought children are immune from the corona virus?

Literally no one has said that. No children have DIER from it. It kills the elderly.

Have any children tested positive?

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Anonymous wrote:How many folks who are able to telework in DC area will ask to do so? I’m considering. Not so much for me, but for my elderly father I care for.

I wold think that putting everyone who can be on telecommute now would semi isolate huge group of people improving odds. This is how prevention works. If there is no harm to effectiveness lets do it now. Kids have no reason to be subjected to school closing at this time because there is no imminent threat and their learning would suffer. But telecommute is really a great and easy preventive measure and zero cost.
Some gain, no traffic, pollution reduced, more rested people earned two hours time a day in commute waste, could also be stronger more rested and their immune system would be charged and ready to fight any silly germ.

The kids will be bringing the virus home to their parents and their parents will still be running out to do errands. No one is going to send their kid to school and then continually isolate themselves at home.

School closure as a mitigation strategy for an illness spread like flu has been studied a lot. I think it's been found that early school closure (before a lot of kids are sick actually) can really slow the community wide infection rate down a lot and thus reduce the burden of the disease on health care systems by spreading cases out over longer timeframe.

When you send the kids back to school community wide infection rates go back up and everyone is infected that was going to be over time. But it spreads the cases out.

https://nccid.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/03/SchoolClosures_ENG.pdf

I thought children are immune from the corona virus?

Literally no one has said that. No children have DIER from it. It kills the elderly.

Have any children tested positive?

Anywhere in the world? Of course they have. Why would you think children have a natural immunity?

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Really the only hope is that the arrival of spring and all has an adverse affect on the novel cironavirus. Maybe, maybe not. Trump is clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many folks who are able to telework in DC area will ask to do so? I’m considering. Not so much for me, but for my elderly father I care for.

I wold think that putting everyone who can be on telecommute now would semi isolate huge group of people improving odds. This is how prevention works. If there is no harm to effectiveness lets do it now. Kids have no reason to be subjected to school closing at this time because there is no imminent threat and their learning would suffer. But telecommute is really a great and easy preventive measure and zero cost.
Some gain, no traffic, pollution reduced, more rested people earned two hours time a day in commute waste, could also be stronger more rested and their immune system would be charged and ready to fight any silly germ.

The kids will be bringing the virus home to their parents and their parents will still be running out to do errands. No one is going to send their kid to school and then continually isolate themselves at home.

School closure as a mitigation strategy for an illness spread like flu has been studied a lot. I think it's been found that early school closure (before a lot of kids are sick actually) can really slow the community wide infection rate down a lot and thus reduce the burden of the disease on health care systems by spreading cases out over longer timeframe.

When you send the kids back to school community wide infection rates go back up and everyone is infected that was going to be over time. But it spreads the cases out.

https://nccid.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/03/SchoolClosures_ENG.pdf

I thought children are immune from the corona virus?

Literally no one has said that. No children have DIER from it. It kills the elderly.

Have any children tested positive?

Anywhere in the world? Of course they have. Why would you think children have a natural immunity?

To self soothe?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many folks who are able to telework in DC area will ask to do so? I’m considering. Not so much for me, but for my elderly father I care for.

I wold think that putting everyone who can be on telecommute now would semi isolate huge group of people improving odds. This is how prevention works. If there is no harm to effectiveness lets do it now. Kids have no reason to be subjected to school closing at this time because there is no imminent threat and their learning would suffer. But telecommute is really a great and easy preventive measure and zero cost.
Some gain, no traffic, pollution reduced, more rested people earned two hours time a day in commute waste, could also be stronger more rested and their immune system would be charged and ready to fight any silly germ.

The kids will be bringing the virus home to their parents and their parents will still be running out to do errands. No one is going to send their kid to school and then continually isolate themselves at home.

School closure as a mitigation strategy for an illness spread like flu has been studied a lot. I think it's been found that early school closure (before a lot of kids are sick actually) can really slow the community wide infection rate down a lot and thus reduce the burden of the disease on health care systems by spreading cases out over longer timeframe.

When you send the kids back to school community wide infection rates go back up and everyone is infected that was going to be over time. But it spreads the cases out.

https://nccid.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/03/SchoolClosures_ENG.pdf

I thought children are immune from the corona virus?

Literally no one has said that. No children have DIER from it. It kills the elderly.

Have any children tested positive?

"most confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported from China have occurred in adults. Infections in children have been reported, including in very young children. From limited information published from past Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) outbreaks, infection among children was relatively uncommon."

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/specific-groups/children-faq.html

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The Italy cases have come to the UK. They report two new positive cases, one Italy related and one Canary Islands -related. (Latter also is likely Italy-related.)

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-27-20-intl-hnk/index.html

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many folks who are able to telework in DC area will ask to do so? I’m considering. Not so much for me, but for my elderly father I care for.

I wold think that putting everyone who can be on telecommute now would semi isolate huge group of people improving odds. This is how prevention works. If there is no harm to effectiveness lets do it now. Kids have no reason to be subjected to school closing at this time because there is no imminent threat and their learning would suffer. But telecommute is really a great and easy preventive measure and zero cost.
Some gain, no traffic, pollution reduced, more rested people earned two hours time a day in commute waste, could also be stronger more rested and their immune system would be charged and ready to fight any silly germ.

The kids will be bringing the virus home to their parents and their parents will still be running out to do errands. No one is going to send their kid to school and then continually isolate themselves at home.

School closure as a mitigation strategy for an illness spread like flu has been studied a lot. I think it's been found that early school closure (before a lot of kids are sick actually) can really slow the community wide infection rate down a lot and thus reduce the burden of the disease on health care systems by spreading cases out over longer timeframe.

When you send the kids back to school community wide infection rates go back up and everyone is infected that was going to be over time. But it spreads the cases out.

https://nccid.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/03/SchoolClosures_ENG.pdf

I thought children are immune from the corona virus?

Literally no one has said that. No children have DIER from it. It kills the elderly.

Have any children tested positive?

Anywhere in the world? Of course they have. Why would you think children have a natural immunity?

Children will be carriers. They’re already Petrie dishes that bring home every virus. Children have largely not been affected by COVID-19. Closing schools is a way to stop the spread to adults. Don’t worry they won’t do that here. We will continue life until the government gets its act together when it’s too late and we’re in Walking Dead territory

[Anonymous]

On “The Daily” podcast this morning, the expert said that one theory was that little kids have been more recently exposed to other coronaviruses (that present as the common cold), so they have more immunity to this one. Adults who were exposed to those viruses as children may have seen that immunity wear off. (Or something like that.) The podcast is worth a listen.