Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

[Anonymous]

South Korean flight attendant tested positive. She had been on flights with the religious groups to Korea.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many folks who are able to telework in DC area will ask to do so? I’m considering. Not so much for me, but for my elderly father I care for.

I’m a daycare worker. What usually happens when the federal government calls for telework or liberal leave is people bring their kids to daycare and go back home to work. It doesn’t matter if it’s a sheet of ice outside. People will risk life and limb to get their kids out of the house for the day. I fully expect if quarantines start, I will be caring for kids when we would all be safer at home.

You cannot telework without childcare. Workers can be fired for not having childcare. It is in the telework agreement everyone signs.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many folks who are able to telework in DC area will ask to do so? I’m considering. Not so much for me, but for my elderly father I care for.

I’m a daycare worker. What usually happens when the federal government calls for telework or liberal leave is people bring their kids to daycare and go back home to work. It doesn’t matter if it’s a sheet of ice outside. People will risk life and limb to get their kids out of the house for the day. I fully expect if quarantines start, I will be caring for kids when we would all be safer at home.

You cannot telework without childcare. Workers can be fired for not having childcare. It is in the telework agreement everyone signs.

Yeah, if the worst really comes to pass, that’s just how it’s going to have to be. This is not a normal situation

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many folks who are able to telework in DC area will ask to do so? I’m considering. Not so much for me, but for my elderly father I care for.

I’m a daycare worker. What usually happens when the federal government calls for telework or liberal leave is people bring their kids to daycare and go back home to work. It doesn’t matter if it’s a sheet of ice outside. People will risk life and limb to get their kids out of the house for the day. I fully expect if quarantines start, I will be caring for kids when we would all be safer at home.

You cannot telework without childcare. Workers can be fired for not having childcare. It is in the telework agreement everyone signs.

Right.

When you are drowning in your own liquid-filled lungs on the floor of some school gymn-turned-makeshift-hospital, the last thought going through your mind can be “oh well, at least I didn’t violate my telework agreement.”

[Anonymous]

The possibility of re-infection is terrifying; then how will this thing ever end? At least with the flu you’re not going to get the same strain twice in a season; you develop immunity.

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Anonymous wrote:How many folks who are able to telework in DC area will ask to do so? I’m considering. Not so much for me, but for my elderly father I care for.

I wold think that putting everyone who can be on telecommute now would semi isolate huge group of people improving odds. This is how prevention works. If there is no harm to effectiveness lets do it now. Kids have no reason to be subjected to school closing at this time because there is no imminent threat and their learning would suffer. But telecommute is really a great and easy preventive measure and zero cost.
Some gain, no traffic, pollution reduced, more rested people earned two hours time a day in commute waste, could also be stronger more rested and their immune system would be charged and ready to fight any silly germ.

The kids will be bringing the virus home to their parents and their parents will still be running out to do errands. No one is going to send their kid to school and then continually isolate themselves at home.

School closure as a mitigation strategy for an illness spread like flu has been studied a lot. I think it's been found that early school closure (before a lot of kids are sick actually) can really slow the community wide infection rate down a lot and thus reduce the burden of the disease on health care systems by spreading cases out over longer timeframe.

When you send the kids back to school community wide infection rates go back up and everyone is infected that was going to be over time. But it spreads the cases out.

https://nccid.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/03/SchoolClosures_ENG.pdf

I thought children are immune from the corona virus?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many folks who are able to telework in DC area will ask to do so? I’m considering. Not so much for me, but for my elderly father I care for.

I wold think that putting everyone who can be on telecommute now would semi isolate huge group of people improving odds. This is how prevention works. If there is no harm to effectiveness lets do it now. Kids have no reason to be subjected to school closing at this time because there is no imminent threat and their learning would suffer. But telecommute is really a great and easy preventive measure and zero cost.
Some gain, no traffic, pollution reduced, more rested people earned two hours time a day in commute waste, could also be stronger more rested and their immune system would be charged and ready to fight any silly germ.

The kids will be bringing the virus home to their parents and their parents will still be running out to do errands. No one is going to send their kid to school and then continually isolate themselves at home.

School closure as a mitigation strategy for an illness spread like flu has been studied a lot. I think it's been found that early school closure (before a lot of kids are sick actually) can really slow the community wide infection rate down a lot and thus reduce the burden of the disease on health care systems by spreading cases out over longer timeframe.

When you send the kids back to school community wide infection rates go back up and everyone is infected that was going to be over time. But it spreads the cases out.

https://nccid.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/03/SchoolClosures_ENG.pdf

I thought children are immune from the corona virus?

Literally no one has said that. No children have DIER from it. It kills the elderly.

[Anonymous]

DIER =DIED

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If things are so bad that you are ordered to telework then your daycare isn’t going to be open. After reading about the Japanese woman that got reinfected I need to stop reading this stuff or I’m going to freak out.

[Anonymous]

Countries with new first cases:

Denmark
Estonia

Korea had 505 cases in the last 24 hours, outpacing by 100 or so, the new cases in China. It now has 1766 cases and 13 fatalities.

Italy now has a total of 528 cases and 14 deaths.

[Anonymous]

The governor of Lombardy in Italy has put himself in isolation after one of his staff tests positive.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the SAME ISSUE THE CDC HAD WITH EBOLA:


Since the patient did not fit the existing CDC criteria for COVID-19, a test was not immediately administered. UC Davis Health does not control the testing process.

On Sunday, the CDC ordered COVID-19 testing of the patient and the patient was put on airborne precautions and strict contact precautions, because of our concerns about the patient’s condition. Today the CDC confirmed the patient’s test was positive.


Considering that during the Ebola case here, a nurse who directly treated the man was sick and called the CDC and they told her not to worry about it and travel. They still haven't learned. This has NOTHING to do with Pence, Trump, etc. It has to do with the absolute arrogance of a few people at the CDC who say things like "doesn't fit the criteria"

No, it's not the same issue. The Trump administration is totally f'ing this up. It looks like they are deliberately avoiding testing anyone for COVID so they can say there are no cases.

That would fit with the fact that Trump just wants this to magically go away. I'm hopeful they can right the ship now, but Trump has the maturity and patience of a toddler so at some point he's going to lose it.

. get a grip.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many folks who are able to telework in DC area will ask to do so? I’m considering. Not so much for me, but for my elderly father I care for.

I’m a daycare worker. What usually happens when the federal government calls for telework or liberal leave is people bring their kids to daycare and go back home to work. It doesn’t matter if it’s a sheet of ice outside. People will risk life and limb to get their kids out of the house for the day. I fully expect if quarantines start, I will be caring for kids when we would all be safer at home.

You cannot telework without childcare. Workers can be fired for not having childcare. It is in the telework agreement everyone signs.

Right.

When you are drowning in your own liquid-filled lungs on the floor of some school gymn-turned-makeshift-hospital, the last thought going through your mind can be “oh well, at least I didn’t violate my telework agreement.”

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Anonymous wrote:Link to Enterprise Yolo County News with story on the patient at UC Davis.

Reads almost word for word like the Reddit post a PP posted.

https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-coronavirus-patient-being-treated-at-uc-davis-medical-center/

"No known contact with infected individual"

They have no way of knowing this except for the patient's word. And that person has no idea either.

Thus the words “no known”.

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Patient is intubated and on vent so I doubt he has said much of anything. It probably just means that he hasn't been to Asia recently and, as far as his family knows, he hasn't been hanging out with anyone with the virus. I'd be curious what his job is...if he works in a big S.F. hotel, that's pretty different from a situation where he works in a vineyard, or in an office in Sacramento.

The patient currently at UC Davis was transferred already on a vent and respirator from a smaller hospital in California where presumably he had been ill for at least a week or more likely two weeks, with no suspicion of coronavirus. This is what happened in Italy (and Iran). There has probably been community spread throughout this region of California for at least 2 weeks, and now the severe cases will begin to up up when they need breathing assistance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Link to Enterprise Yolo County News with story on the patient at UC Davis.

Reads almost word for word like the Reddit post a PP posted.

https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-coronavirus-patient-being-treated-at-uc-davis-medical-center/

"No known contact with infected individual"

They have no way of knowing this except for the patient's word. And that person has no idea either.

Thus the words “no known”.

...
Patient is intubated and on vent so I doubt he has said much of anything. It probably just means that he hasn't been to Asia recently and, as far as his family knows, he hasn't been hanging out with anyone with the virus. I'd be curious what his job is...if he works in a big S.F. hotel, that's pretty different from a situation where he works in a vineyard, or in an office in Sacramento.

Or a wine tasting room, or a fast food place, or a big box store, or a craft brewery...,