Private School Lacrosse Thread
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Anonymous
| Parent here. My lacrosse playing son got into an Ivy despite the fact that his grades and test scores were lower than the average admit. However, he is a very good lacrosse player. How is this any different than being a skilled pianist or robotics wiz? My son spent a lot of time honing his skills, showing great discipline and determination. As a captain of his HS team, he was recognized as a leader who is able to work with others to achieve a common goal. All these skills were desirable to the Ivy. No apologies necessary for taking one of the coveted spots. |
Anonymous
All of these skills are desirable to all other top universities and colleges...as well as to future employers. -Another Unapologetic Lacrosse Mom Whose Son Vaulted Ahead Due to Lacrosse |
Anonymous
The landon coaches were not sleeping on st johns, I saw a handful of them at the pvi vs st johns game. Was hard to miss them. They were the ones wearing landon shirts and carrying around clipboards. Regarding gonzaga vs McDonough, no surprise they lost, but it was a surprise how bad they lost. Could have been 20-2 if mcdonough didnt take their foot off the gas and start playing their backups. |
Anonymous
I was an all-Ivy athlete. I have coached in this area for many years, and I maintain a relationship with my college program. Of course I am aware of what athletes bring to the table, and so are colleges -- among other things, they tend to stay involved with their alma maters (including financially, often generously) after graduation. But suggestions that (1) on the numbers the qualifications of recruited Ivy athletes, in the aggregate, match the general applicant pool; or that (2) the "hook" for recruited athletes is minor or even at the same level as the legacy hook are totally off-base. You don't have to go any further than the fact that the Ivy League maintains an Academic Index ("AI") to set a floor for the academic standards of their recruited athletes. When you see the AI qualification numbers and compare them against the general applicant population, there's a major difference. Are the Ivy athletes smart? Hell, yes. But would they IN THE AGGREGATE have the same chance of getting in without the hook of athletic recruiting as members of the general applicant pool? Hell, no. This isn't a secret. Here's a blurb about a book, "Reclaiming the Game," by the former President of Princeton: In Reclaiming the Game, William Bowen and Sarah Levin disentangle the admissions and academic experiences of recruited athletes, walk-on athletes, and other students. In a field overwhelmed by reliance on anecdotes, the factual findings are striking--and sobering. Anyone seriously concerned about higher education will find it hard to wish away the evidence that athletic recruitment is problematic even at those schools that do not offer athletic scholarships. Thanks to an expansion of the College and Beyond database that resulted in the highly influential studies The Shape of the River and The Game of Life, the authors are able to analyze in great detail the backgrounds, academic qualifications, and college outcomes of athletes and their classmates at thirty-three academically selective colleges and universities that do not offer athletic scholarships. They show that recruited athletes at these schools are as much as four times more likely to gain admission than are other applicants with similar academic credentials. The data also demonstrate that the typical recruit is substantially more likely to end up in the bottom third of the college class than is either the typical walk-on or the student who does not play college sports. Even more troubling is the dramatic evidence that recruited athletes "underperform:" they do even less well academically than predicted by their test scores and high school grades. Over the last four decades, the athletic-academic divide on elite campuses has widened substantially. This book examines the forces that have been driving this process and presents concrete proposals for reform. At its core, Reclaiming the Game is an argument for re-establishing athletics as a means of fulfilling--instead of undermining--the educational missions of our colleges and universities. Reviews: "Reclaiming the Game paints a disappointing picture of the negative influences of college athletics. . . . Bowen and Levin demonstrate repeatedly that recruited athletes get preferential treatment in admissions despite lower SAT scores, underperform academically throughout college, choose easier majors and graduate at a lower percentage. . .. [A]s the athletic-academic gap grows, the need for visionary leadership from college presidents becomes more pressing. Reclaiming the Game provides an excellent blueprint to do exactly what its title suggests."--Mark Luce, Chicago Tribune |
Anonymous
| Fine, it very well may be that my student athlete finished in the lower 1/3 at his Ivy. I am just happy that he used lacrosse to get in the door. |
Anonymous
There was a study done they showed students at Ivy League schools were so use to bring in the top 5% of their elem/middle/HS class that when they went to an Ivy, no matter how smart, they could not excel beyond college because their self esteem was hurt by not being in the top 5% anymore. Somebody has to be in the lower 95%. They found student who gain their self esteem in other areas of life... Athletics, arts, music, public service, etc... Did not stumble due to not being in the top 5% in the their graduating class and are more successful after graduation than "just a smart kid". Which brings us to the push to accept athletes, artist, musicians. Being "just smart" has a deminishing rate of return. |
Anonymous
Plan a May Madness after Conference championships like NCAA basketball. |
Anonymous
Look, I most likely would not have gotten into the Ivy League were I not an athlete. I did very well once admitted and was admitted to an excellent graduate program where my abilities with stick and ball were irrelevant. I believe in college athletics. I just want people to understand the landscape. Harvard and Yale and Princeton accept something like 7% of their applicants nowadays. There's no shame in using sports (which are about dedication as well as talent) as a ticket into great educational institutions. It's also no shame to be in the bottom third at an amazing school -- that's like being in the bottom third of the NBA -- you are still incredibly talented in the bigger picture. Any sort of "dumb jock" stereotype is misplaced (although the hockey players, sometimes . . .). |
Anonymous
| Prep has a big win today against Loyola Blakefield from Baltimore! |
Anonymous
Good for them! Always nice to see the DMV win out over Charm City. |
Anonymous
| New Prep coach is making a huge difference. Don't count them out in the IAC. The will give Bullis and Landon a run for their money. |
Anonymous
while he is making a difference, they won't compete with Landon or Bullis, they didn't even beat gonzaga |
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Prediction Bullis 9 Landon 5 |
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How many transfers does Bullis have on their roster this year. It looks like half the starters were enrolled at different schools this time last year.
Landon should win this game as they are pretty deep this spring. Landon 9 Bullis 7 |
Anonymous
How do you even know this? |