Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school

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Anonymous wrote:The school had no doors and there were no lock down drills. And he was only there for a half a day.

Wow.

I know that people are all like: parents should have a voice in their kids education. But it really sounds like the teachers should have a stronger voice. And I know that my IEP friends are going to be enraged about this: but if your kid is violent he really can’t be protected by an IEP anymore.

If your child was an adult, he would be tried for assault. If you think that your child’s aggressive behavior should be excused- you’re part of the problem.

And for goodness sake: teachers can’t hit a child back. They are not allowed because they can be sued for hitting a kid. Which is at this point a result of the parents being awful.

If your kid is strangling teachers or other kids: they should be suspended for a week and expelled with a second offense. I’m sorry: but if you can’t raise your kids to not be violent, then it isn’t the school systems responsibility to fix your kid. It’s yours.


The bolded is a reminder that most people have no idea what an IEP is. Including you, PP. It's not a pass on behavior. Nothing in an IEP indicates that a child is allowed to harm other kids. And the majority of violent, disruptive bullies aren't on IEPs. The problem has never been children on IEPs, as much as you don't like them. It's money. There are simply not enough resources available to give each child the education and support they need and everyone suffers. The federal government isn't funding its share of special education. There aren't enough teachers, and can you blame them? There isn't enough training or support. And for the children with the greatest needs, there aren't enough spaces in specialized schools. You get what you pay for in public education.


I call bs.

The kid has an acute disability and was allowed half day classes with a parent shadowing the entire time. That is most definitely a sign of an IEP.

And your experience might be different but based on my teacher friends, it’s not. It’s getting worse and parents aren’t teaching their kids how to behave or medicating their kids so that their brains normalize.

And no- not every IEP allows for violent behavior. The IEPs allows for “bandaids” to deal with the aggressive behavior vs actually medication or therapy.

And this kid: had a lot of bandaids before he shot a teacher.


Absolutely not. If anything , the allowances for this child show he did NOT and could not have had an IEP. Nothing about this setup was legal per an IEP which is a LEGAL document. Acute disability is not a category under IDEA. You do not get an IEP for “acute disability,” that is a made up lawyer and family term. Secondly, it is not legal per an IEP for parents to serve as a 1:1 aide as they are not sped certified. There was no IEP. There was a deal between the family and admin to keep him mainstream at risk to all.


The kid had an actual IEP, per the family's lawyer. He is quoted at the end of the article. https://apnews.com/article/education-virginia-newport-news-children-33ed30539f279405f696ad10d4ff46a1


Of course.

Because it can’t possibly be sociopathy disguised as ODD.


I swear on my life ODD is not real.
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The act of negligence by the Newport News parents was having the gun in the first place knowing that their disturbed child was violent (tried to choke his kindergarten teacher). There was no degree of gun safety/locked cabinet etc. that was reasonable given the child's ongoing behavior. They should be charged with reckless endangerment.
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Another student at that school threatened to shoot up the school and has been removed from classes
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Anonymous wrote:Another student at that school threatened to shoot up the school and has been removed from classes
here it is https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/newport-news/richneck-admin-5th-grader-texted-about-shooting-up-the-class/amp/
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Anonymous wrote:Another student at that school threatened to shoot up the school and has been removed from classes
here it is https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/newport-news/richneck-admin-5th-grader-texted-about-shooting-up-the-class/amp/


I like the no tolerance part of this, but this is a ten year old boy who made this statement online to a social group.

Why is a ten year old on social media?

Did this kid have a history of threats or was this a one off?

I suspect this case is not like the other.
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Anonymous wrote:Another student at that school threatened to shoot up the school and has been removed from classes
here it is https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/newport-news/richneck-admin-5th-grader-texted-about-shooting-up-the-class/amp/


I like the no tolerance part of this, but this is a ten year old boy who made this statement online to a social group.

Why is a ten year old on social media?

Did this kid have a history of threats or was this a one off?

I suspect this case is not like the other.


I don't feel it should matter. You threaten to harm someone at a school? Done. Like the airport. You aren't allowed on a plan if you even mention the word bomb. If your 10 year old threatens to shoot up the plane, they aren't letting him on. Period.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another student at that school threatened to shoot up the school and has been removed from classes
here it is https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/newport-news/richneck-admin-5th-grader-texted-about-shooting-up-the-class/amp/


I like the no tolerance part of this, but this is a ten year old boy who made this statement online to a social group.

Why is a ten year old on social media?

Did this kid have a history of threats or was this a one off?

I suspect this case is not like the other.


I don't feel it should matter. You threaten to harm someone at a school? Done. Like the airport. You aren't allowed on a plan if you even mention the word bomb. If your 10 year old threatens to shoot up the plane, they aren't letting him on. Period.


Agreed. It's not something you joke around with. This is basic stuff parents should be teaching their kids.
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Any updates on how the teacher is doing? Have they arrested the parents yet?
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“The 6-year-old boy who allegedly shot his elementary school teacher earlier this year will not be criminally charged, Newport News, Virginia, Commonwealth's Attorney Howard Gwynn told CNN affiliate WTKR.”
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Anonymous wrote:“The 6-year-old boy who allegedly shot his elementary school teacher earlier this year will not be criminally charged, Newport News, Virginia, Commonwealth's Attorney Howard Gwynn told CNN affiliate WTKR.”


Of COURSE the kid shouldn't be criminally charged. He should stay in some kind of an institution for the rest of his life though. I'm still waiting for them to charge his parents criminally. And I'm still waiting for them to charge the administrators who either ignored the issue or who openly refused to implement a safety plan. They ALL need to spend time in jail.
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It’ll be a devastating tragedy if the parents aren’t charged for the vicious shooting of the school teacher.

Is the child still living in the same house?
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Anonymous wrote:“The 6-year-old boy who allegedly shot his elementary school teacher earlier this year will not be criminally charged, Newport News, Virginia, Commonwealth's Attorney Howard Gwynn told CNN affiliate WTKR.”


Of COURSE the kid shouldn't be criminally charged. He should stay in some kind of an institution for the rest of his life though. I'm still waiting for them to charge his parents criminally. And I'm still waiting for them to charge the administrators who either ignored the issue or who openly refused to implement a safety plan. They ALL need to spend time in jail.

I thought it was interesting that the child can’t be part of the juvenile system either. How is the community being assured that he is being rehabilitated? This child needs to be in intensive treatment and it should be mandatory and state monitored.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/abigail-zwerner-recovery-after-shot-by-student-rcna75336?fbclid=IwAR1_LZRSpeisjw5YqnkHySfgkOTuyMtK2VimPgKn2Bwm0i-Wo4z8CaqhIK0

The teacher who was shot in her classroom by the 6 year old student is still a long way from recovery.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“The 6-year-old boy who allegedly shot his elementary school teacher earlier this year will not be criminally charged, Newport News, Virginia, Commonwealth's Attorney Howard Gwynn told CNN affiliate WTKR.”


Of COURSE the kid shouldn't be criminally charged. He should stay in some kind of an institution for the rest of his life though. I'm still waiting for them to charge his parents criminally. And I'm still waiting for them to charge the administrators who either ignored the issue or who openly refused to implement a safety plan. They ALL need to spend time in jail.

I thought it was interesting that the child can’t be part of the juvenile system either. How is the community being assured that he is being rehabilitated? This child needs to be in intensive treatment and it should be mandatory and state monitored.


This child likely cannot be rehabilitated. There are some medical conditions where there is a biologically (brain) based issue, including complete inability to feel any empathy. It may be possible to achieve that he can live in society without killing someone, but it’s going to be difficult and require intense inpatient commitment. There are only a few locations in the US equipped to deal with this. If not addressed appropriately, he will escalate his violence as he gets older.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“The 6-year-old boy who allegedly shot his elementary school teacher earlier this year will not be criminally charged, Newport News, Virginia, Commonwealth's Attorney Howard Gwynn told CNN affiliate WTKR.”


Of COURSE the kid shouldn't be criminally charged. He should stay in some kind of an institution for the rest of his life though. I'm still waiting for them to charge his parents criminally. And I'm still waiting for them to charge the administrators who either ignored the issue or who openly refused to implement a safety plan. They ALL need to spend time in jail.

I thought it was interesting that the child can’t be part of the juvenile system either. How is the community being assured that he is being rehabilitated? This child needs to be in intensive treatment and it should be mandatory and state monitored.


This child likely cannot be rehabilitated. There are some medical conditions where there is a biologically (brain) based issue, including complete inability to feel any empathy. It may be possible to achieve that he can live in society without killing someone, but it’s going to be difficult and require intense inpatient commitment. There are only a few locations in the US equipped to deal with this. If not addressed appropriately, he will escalate his violence as he gets older.


I have absolutely no idea if the child can be socialized properly. But, I would never claim that he could not be rehabilitated without knowing a whole lot more. I can say that the parent has shown imcompetence by having a gun within reach of the child.
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