Idaho Murder Suspect Bryan Kohberger - arrest warrant affadavit

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how y'all are already convicting this guy before he has a fair trial.

His blood was found at the scene, wrap your little brain around that fact. Bye.

That wasn't in the affidavit. Please read it.

His fathers DNA was used to verify the DNA on the knife sleeve. That is what they meant. The knife sleeve was found by one of the bodies.

Of course that is correct. You wrote "His blood was found at the scene, wrap your little brain around that fact. Bye." That is nowhere in the affidavit.

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Anonymous wrote:Wtf DCUM, you spent 30 pages going gangbusters about why the roommate didn’t call the cops and chastising each other about it, and these wild screenshots drop and you have little to discuss. I’m not even mad it’s just crazy how different the discussions on this crime are on here vs websleuths.

I’m new to this thread, but the answer seems obvious: clearly a person who studied criminology and subsequently plotted a random violent murder had serious mental health issues. What’s NOT obvious is why someone experiencing a terrifying emergency doesn’t call 911 until many hours later, and allegedly summons friends to the house first. I believe people who say they are not judging her and that she was cleared - but it’s objectively odd and tragic, and the answer is certainly unclear.

Wasn't he studying criminal justice? He wasn't studying forensics and CSI crap i.e. how to commit the "perfect" crime. He was sloppy as hell. And clearly NOT smart. The social media posts, calling into a podcast, driving around the scene, the cell phone off and on, leaving the knife thing. Sounds like a dumb worthless drug addict. Being "in college" does not make anyone smart. Any flunky can take graduate level courses at some nobody college in the middle of nowhere.

Criminology and Criminal Justice are two different things, though they sound similar, but have different concentrations. I think the murderer was studying Criminology. Criminal Justice used to be a path to law school, along with Political Science.

Criminology is a subfield of Sociology. It looks at things like who gets imprisoned, is the system fair, what models of imprisonment are most effective (i.e. cut down on recidivism, etc). It is not about catching criminals or forensic psychiatry. I think it is interesting that he and his siblings' careers focus on pathology (they are counsellor/therapists). I wonder what that is about.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t feel any sympathy for the murderer, but I am very sad for the young boy that needed help, was painfully aware something was very very wrong and he needed help, and may not have gotten it. Depersonalization/derealization is horrible. I struggled with it for a period of several months as a young adult after college and the trauma from that time is still with me. I was having daily panic attacks and could not function. Every evening as the sun went down—it was worse at night—I couldn’t do anything except lay in bed and cry.

He was a heroin addict in high school, so clearly he was deeply troubled. Given his crimes, that is of course the case.
Those who say, “No, he is just evil”sound like you are living in the dark ages.

A lot of people are drug addicts and don't commit mass murder. I don't care about his drug addiction. How about he not murder young women for existing? He's obviously a predator.

That was posted because the person who found his writings seemed to think it showed that he was troubled long ago. It does, but so does heroin addiction at such a young age. Just saying, it is not really debatable that he was troubled. Whether or not you "care about that."

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how y'all are already convicting this guy before he has a fair trial.

His blood was found at the scene, wrap your little brain around that fact. Bye.

His blood or his DNA? Not the same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how y'all are already convicting this guy before he has a fair trial.

Oh okay, so his phone was at the scene a dozen times in the months leading up to the murders and then at the exact time the murders were being committed, but he was probably just partying there.

His phone was off at the time of the murders. There was no ping at that time.

Yes his phone was turned off for exactly the duration of the murders but was on during the first part of the drive there and the last part of the drive back. His route was reconstructed. And it pinged by the house twelves times in the months leading up to the murders, and the morning after. Together with his dna evidence, car make/model witnessed in the neighborhood that night, and exact physical match to an eyewitness description, just a wild coincidence I'm sure!

I'd hardly call the physical match "exact". And I doubt he's the only person in the world who owns a white Hyundai Elantra.

And the rest of the evidence?

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how y'all are already convicting this guy before he has a fair trial.

Oh okay, so his phone was at the scene a dozen times in the months leading up to the murders and then at the exact time the murders were being committed, but he was probably just partying there.

His phone was off at the time of the murders. There was no ping at that time.

Yes his phone was turned off for exactly the duration of the murders but was on during the first part of the drive there and the last part of the drive back. His route was reconstructed. And it pinged by the house twelves times in the months leading up to the murders, and the morning after. Together with his dna evidence, car make/model witnessed in the neighborhood that night, and exact physical match to an eyewitness description, just a wild coincidence I'm sure!

I'd hardly call the physical match "exact". And I doubt he's the only person in the world who owns a white Hyundai Elantra.

And the rest of the evidence?

What if it was someone else who was behind the wheel of the car with his phone and they planted the knife sheaf with his DNA? I agree that it is beyond unlikely but it would be possible to frame the guy if someone was really close to him and skilled.
It makes me uneasy simply because so many people (over time) have been framed and then convicted for things they didn't do.
I believe the evidence is overwhemingly in favor of him being at fault (like 99.99%) but I'm also glad I've never had to serve on a death penalty level case.

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I doubt he's the only person in the world who owns a white Hyundai Elantra.

At the time of the crime, the white Elantra seen in the vicinity had no license plate on the front. In Washington State and Idaho cars have to have license plates on both the front and rear. In Pennsylvania, where Kohberger's car was registered at the time of the crime, the only plates are on the rear. Yes, it's strictly circumstantial, but it narrowed down the number of cars that matched the description.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how y'all are already convicting this guy before he has a fair trial.

Oh okay, so his phone was at the scene a dozen times in the months leading up to the murders and then at the exact time the murders were being committed, but he was probably just partying there.

His phone was off at the time of the murders. There was no ping at that time.

Yes his phone was turned off for exactly the duration of the murders but was on during the first part of the drive there and the last part of the drive back. His route was reconstructed. And it pinged by the house twelves times in the months leading up to the murders, and the morning after. Together with his dna evidence, car make/model witnessed in the neighborhood that night, and exact physical match to an eyewitness description, just a wild coincidence I'm sure!

'd hardly call the physical match "exact". And I doubt he's the only person in the world who owns a white Hyundai Elantra.

Well add to that that it was a white hyundai elantra with no front plate which is required in washington and Idaho but is not required by the state of PA and PA is the same state where the suspect and registered driver is from; AND a white hyundai elantra missing the front plate that is caught on multiple cameras driving to and from the crime scene multiple times over the span of months and the driver's phone is pinging on cell towers going to and from the crime scene before and after the crime. That's a clear Match.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how y'all are already convicting this guy before he has a fair trial.

Oh okay, so his phone was at the scene a dozen times in the months leading up to the murders and then at the exact time the murders were being committed, but he was probably just partying there.

His phone was off at the time of the murders. There was no ping at that time.

Yes his phone was turned off for exactly the duration of the murders but was on during the first part of the drive there and the last part of the drive back. His route was reconstructed. And it pinged by the house twelves times in the months leading up to the murders, and the morning after. Together with his dna evidence, car make/model witnessed in the neighborhood that night, and exact physical match to an eyewitness description, just a wild coincidence I'm sure!

I'd hardly call the physical match "exact". And I doubt he's the only person in the world who owns a white Hyundai Elantra.

And the rest of the evidence?

What if it was someone else who was behind the wheel of the car with his phone and they planted the knife sheaf with his DNA? I agree that it is beyond unlikely but it would be possible to frame the guy if someone was really close to him and skilled.
It makes me uneasy simply because so many people (over time) have been framed and then convicted for things they didn't do.
I believe the evidence is overwhemingly in favor of him being at fault (like 99.99%) but I'm also glad I've never had to serve on a death penalty level case.

You are likely the same person that though gabby was not murdered by her boyfriend, right?

You can say with a straight face someone else drove the suspects car with his phone in it to the crime scene several times over a series of months and the suspect was clueless or even allowed it and then left his knife sheath there at the murder scene and also drove back to the scene the next day with his car and phone again? Just stop.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how y'all are already convicting this guy before he has a fair trial.

Oh okay, so his phone was at the scene a dozen times in the months leading up to the murders and then at the exact time the murders were being committed, but he was probably just partying there.

His phone was off at the time of the murders. There was no ping at that time.

Yes his phone was turned off for exactly the duration of the murders but was on during the first part of the drive there and the last part of the drive back. His route was reconstructed. And it pinged by the house twelves times in the months leading up to the murders, and the morning after. Together with his dna evidence, car make/model witnessed in the neighborhood that night, and exact physical match to an eyewitness description, just a wild coincidence I'm sure!

'd hardly call the physical match "exact". And I doubt he's the only person in the world who owns a white Hyundai Elantra.

Well add to that that it was a white hyundai elantra with no front plate which is required in washington and Idaho but is not required by the state of PA and PA is the same state where the suspect and registered driver is from; AND a white hyundai elantra missing the front plate that is caught on multiple cameras driving to and from the crime scene multiple times over the span of months and the driver's phone is pinging on cell towers going to and from the crime scene before and after the crime. That's a clear Match.

What if he has a legitimate reason for driving by their house so many times before? He could have a legitimate reason for driving out on the night of the murders, too.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how y'all are already convicting this guy before he has a fair trial.

Oh okay, so his phone was at the scene a dozen times in the months leading up to the murders and then at the exact time the murders were being committed, but he was probably just partying there.

His phone was off at the time of the murders. There was no ping at that time.

Yes his phone was turned off for exactly the duration of the murders but was on during the first part of the drive there and the last part of the drive back. His route was reconstructed. And it pinged by the house twelves times in the months leading up to the murders, and the morning after. Together with his dna evidence, car make/model witnessed in the neighborhood that night, and exact physical match to an eyewitness description, just a wild coincidence I'm sure!

I'd hardly call the physical match "exact". And I doubt he's the only person in the world who owns a white Hyundai Elantra.

And the rest of the evidence?

What if it was someone else who was behind the wheel of the car with his phone and they planted the knife sheaf with his DNA? I agree that it is beyond unlikely but it would be possible to frame the guy if someone was really close to him and skilled.
It makes me uneasy simply because so many people (over time) have been framed and then convicted for things they didn't do.
I believe the evidence is overwhemingly in favor of him being at fault (like 99.99%) but I'm also glad I've never had to serve on a death penalty level case.

You are likely the same person that though gabby was not murdered by her boyfriend, right?

You can say with a straight face someone else drove the suspects car with his phone in it to the crime scene several times over a series of months and the suspect was clueless or even allowed it and then left his knife sheath there at the murder scene and also drove back to the scene the next day with his car and phone again? Just stop.

Who is Gabby?

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how y'all are already convicting this guy before he has a fair trial.

Oh okay, so his phone was at the scene a dozen times in the months leading up to the murders and then at the exact time the murders were being committed, but he was probably just partying there.

His phone was off at the time of the murders. There was no ping at that time.

Yes his phone was turned off for exactly the duration of the murders but was on during the first part of the drive there and the last part of the drive back. His route was reconstructed. And it pinged by the house twelves times in the months leading up to the murders, and the morning after. Together with his dna evidence, car make/model witnessed in the neighborhood that night, and exact physical match to an eyewitness description, just a wild coincidence I'm sure!

'd hardly call the physical match "exact". And I doubt he's the only person in the world who owns a white Hyundai Elantra.

Well add to that that it was a white hyundai elantra with no front plate which is required in washington and Idaho but is not required by the state of PA and PA is the same state where the suspect and registered driver is from; AND a white hyundai elantra missing the front plate that is caught on multiple cameras driving to and from the crime scene multiple times over the span of months and the driver's phone is pinging on cell towers going to and from the crime scene before and after the crime. That's a clear Match.

What if he has a legitimate reason for driving by their house so many times before? He could have a legitimate reason for driving out on the night of the murders, too.

The murdered college students lived on a cul de sac.
Here is the google maps link with the address. https://www.google.com/maps/place/1122+King+Rd,+Moscow,+ID+83843/@46.7218952,-117.0131241,16.42z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x54a0279af7a49783:0x41693df5317a26ac!8m2!3d46.7218939!4d-117.0107857

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how y'all are already convicting this guy before he has a fair trial.

Oh okay, so his phone was at the scene a dozen times in the months leading up to the murders and then at the exact time the murders were being committed, but he was probably just partying there.

His phone was off at the time of the murders. There was no ping at that time.

Yes his phone was turned off for exactly the duration of the murders but was on during the first part of the drive there and the last part of the drive back. His route was reconstructed. And it pinged by the house twelves times in the months leading up to the murders, and the morning after. Together with his dna evidence, car make/model witnessed in the neighborhood that night, and exact physical match to an eyewitness description, just a wild coincidence I'm sure!

'd hardly call the physical match "exact". And I doubt he's the only person in the world who owns a white Hyundai Elantra.

Well add to that that it was a white hyundai elantra with no front plate which is required in washington and Idaho but is not required by the state of PA and PA is the same state where the suspect and registered driver is from; AND a white hyundai elantra missing the front plate that is caught on multiple cameras driving to and from the crime scene multiple times over the span of months and the driver's phone is pinging on cell towers going to and from the crime scene before and after the crime. That's a clear Match.

What if he has a legitimate reason for driving by their house so many times before? He could have a legitimate reason for driving out on the night of the murders, too.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how y'all are already convicting this guy before he has a fair trial.

Oh okay, so his phone was at the scene a dozen times in the months leading up to the murders and then at the exact time the murders were being committed, but he was probably just partying there.

His phone was off at the time of the murders. There was no ping at that time.

Yes his phone was turned off for exactly the duration of the murders but was on during the first part of the drive there and the last part of the drive back. His route was reconstructed. And it pinged by the house twelves times in the months leading up to the murders, and the morning after. Together with his dna evidence, car make/model witnessed in the neighborhood that night, and exact physical match to an eyewitness description, just a wild coincidence I'm sure!

'd hardly call the physical match "exact". And I doubt he's the only person in the world who owns a white Hyundai Elantra.

Well add to that that it was a white hyundai elantra with no front plate which is required in washington and Idaho but is not required by the state of PA and PA is the same state where the suspect and registered driver is from; AND a white hyundai elantra missing the front plate that is caught on multiple cameras driving to and from the crime scene multiple times over the span of months and the driver's phone is pinging on cell towers going to and from the crime scene before and after the crime. That's a clear Match.

What if he has a legitimate reason for driving by their house so many times before? He could have a legitimate reason for driving out on the night of the murders, too.

Ok Mom you can stop now. He done it.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how y'all are already convicting this guy before he has a fair trial.

Oh okay, so his phone was at the scene a dozen times in the months leading up to the murders and then at the exact time the murders were being committed, but he was probably just partying there.

His phone was off at the time of the murders. There was no ping at that time.

Yes his phone was turned off for exactly the duration of the murders but was on during the first part of the drive there and the last part of the drive back. His route was reconstructed. And it pinged by the house twelves times in the months leading up to the murders, and the morning after. Together with his dna evidence, car make/model witnessed in the neighborhood that night, and exact physical match to an eyewitness description, just a wild coincidence I'm sure!

I'd hardly call the physical match "exact". And I doubt he's the only person in the world who owns a white Hyundai Elantra.

And the rest of the evidence?

What if it was someone else who was behind the wheel of the car with his phone and they planted the knife sheaf with his DNA? I agree that it is beyond unlikely but it would be possible to frame the guy if someone was really close to him and skilled.
It makes me uneasy simply because so many people (over time) have been framed and then convicted for things they didn't do.
I believe the evidence is overwhemingly in favor of him being at fault (like 99.99%) but I'm also glad I've never had to serve on a death penalty level case.

You are likely the same person that though gabby was not murdered by her boyfriend, right?

You can say with a straight face someone else drove the suspects car with his phone in it to the crime scene several times over a series of months and the suspect was clueless or even allowed it and then left his knife sheath there at the murder scene and also drove back to the scene the next day with his car and phone again? Just stop.

Who is Gabby?

I assume the poster is referring to Gabby Petito. She was the young female who was doing the "van life" thing with her boyfirend Brian Laundrie when he murdered her in 2021. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Gabby_Petito