This Is Us final season

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Anonymous wrote:I was shocked to see old Toby in the preview. He looks so much different.

Next week looks so dull as well.

And the next week after Kate is Randall. Haven’t they covered him enough already?

I was actually thinking that we have gotten relatively less of Randall this season. There is a Big 3 trilogy every season, so of course he will have his stand-alone episode.

+1 to the bold above. Those saying it's boring to have the episodes focused on individual Pearson siblings must not have been paying attention -- it's a hallmark of the series to have the trilogies so of course there will be one in the final season. It's three episodes out of, what 20-plus, each season? Not a big deal.

I do wish the showrunners hadn't made a thing of announcing such a firm ending to the run of the show. No, I don't want it to keep going on and on, and it's much better to end a show on your own terms instead of getting canceled. but they don't have much time left to wrap up, in an unrushed way, storylines they've dangled for a long time now. I wonder if we'll end up feeling as if they should have gone just a bit longer in order to have a really good conclusion. We'll see.

I hope so. Madison seems to see Kevin for who he is. And she's really grown on me. She used to be so boring but I think they've done a lot to develop her character.

What did we learn about Kevin? That’s he’s a good father? We already knew that.

Kate’s episode next week.? Maybe why she and Toby are divorced? Is it that relevant at this point? We know she remarries and Toby is alone.

I think it was laid out in that rambling speech he gave to the other guy waiting in the hospital waiting room. (which I thought sounded contrived and was lazy writing). He says he's there for Cassidy because that what good guys do, but it doesn't feel authentic to him. He's doing what he thinks he's supposed to do, rather than just being such a good guy who sincerely wants to be there. In his head, he doesn't feel like he's become the good man he wants to be because he still has to work at it rather than it coming naturally.

I think we're going to see him going back to CA and stepping up for Madison in a way that does feel true. He won't have that sense of being an imposter. He will be where he wants to be-- with her and their children-- and he won't question where he belongs and whether he's good enough anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Foreshadow-y line of the week-
Randall, to Kevin: it's all part of parenting a teenager, as you'll see all too soon.

And then they made a point to let us know that Cassidy's kid is 12.

This was actually weird bc we didn’t see any teenage blow ups with Randall’s and Beth’s girls.

Yes we did, with the middle daughter and her difficult relationship with Beth. It wasn't an explosion, but it was fraught.

And then Deja sneaking off to Boston. Again, not an explosion, but a really big deal!

NP. The bold is a good point: For many of us as parents of teens, "fraught" over time is far more realistic than "explosion" or "blow ups" all at once. I like seeing a family where there are teens and sometimes big issues but not necessarily explosions.

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Kevin’s rambling to the stranger annoyed me so much. Hello! This guy is there for a loved one also! And you’re spilling your guts, he doesn’t GAF and how rude!

Was just supposed to be Kevin‘s character, or was it just poor writing? Why can’t he have had that conversation with Nikki?

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Anonymous wrote:Kevin’s rambling to the stranger annoyed me so much. Hello! This guy is there for a loved one also! And you’re spilling your guts, he doesn’t GAF and how rude!

Was just supposed to be Kevin‘s character, or was it just poor writing? Why can’t he have had that conversation with Nikki?

If felt very greys anatomy monologue.

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Anonymous wrote:Kevin’s rambling to the stranger annoyed me so much. Hello! This guy is there for a loved one also! And you’re spilling your guts, he doesn’t GAF and how rude!

Was just supposed to be Kevin‘s character, or was it just poor writing? Why can’t he have had that conversation with Nikki?

Yes, Kevin at his worst. Also poor writing.

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This episode ends the idea the Cassidy is the wife right? She said her darkness was darker than his and he didn't really believe it. But now he has seen it. He can't add more to her life by getting involved but he can do the heroic thing by starting a company that employs vets. Do we think we have closure?

Did anyone else think that in the previous episode Miguel wasn't talking about a care team? I thought he was talking about himself. Like the Pearson's never think about Miguel and Beth (and Toby) even though they have been in the family and holding their partners together for years.

I know Toby has his flaws and faults and can be a huge jerk, but the music teacher is also a huge jerk. And Kate's history with an abusive ex. It seems sad that she ends up with someone who can be so curt and hurtful and dismissive. And the family seems happy for her. I am not sure I get the appeal and I hope the writing isn't just "he learns to love" and then all is well.

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Anonymous wrote:This episode ends the idea the Cassidy is the wife right? She said her darkness was darker than his and he didn't really believe it. But now he has seen it. He can't add more to her life by getting involved but he can do the heroic thing by starting a company that employs vets. Do we think we have closure?

Did anyone else think that in the previous episode Miguel wasn't talking about a care team? I thought he was talking about himself. Like the Pearson's never think about Miguel and Beth (and Toby) even though they have been in the family and holding their partners together for years.

I know Toby has his flaws and faults and can be a huge jerk, but the music teacher is also a huge jerk. And Kate's history with an abusive ex. It seems sad that she ends up with someone who can be so curt and hurtful and dismissive. And the family seems happy for her. I am not sure I get the appeal and I hope the writing isn't just "he learns to love" and then all is well.

Yes, I think Cassidy is definitely out for the love interest. So Madison, Sophie, or someone new entirely.

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What if the look into the future on last season's last episode was a dream.

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I think Zoe could still come back. She didn't want kids; Kevin has them now and Madison will do much of the heavy lifting. It's also a fairly amicable situation, especially as Madison did the dumping. (So Zoe wouldn't be dealing with an angry ex-wife as mother of Kevin's kids.)

As for the music teacher....What did Kate and Toby ever have in common other than being overweight? Toby was able to overcome that; Kate wasn't. So, now, the differing ways they look at the weight issue in their son is driving them apart. Other than kids, this couple has NOTHING in common. Toby, unlike Beth, also doesn't seem to have to come to terms with the Pearsons' family dynamic.

At least with the music teacher, they both have a love of music and, to some extent, a loving of teaching children, in common. As someone who is a music teacher at a school for the blind, he is probably going to do a better job dealing with Jack's blindess than Toby is. And since we know that music ends up being Jack's "thing," it's also obvious that all 3 of them will share the love of music and he will probably be a better mentor in that regard than Toby--just because Toby has no other experience dealing with the blind.

I wouldn't be surprised if the story line is that the teacher recognizes how truly gifted at music Jack is and helps him a lot. Kate may see that with the kids the teacher is not the rude acerbic person he is with adults. He will see what a great mom Kate is--he's probably dealt with a lot of parents of blind children who do a worse job. So, it may be that it is Jack who brings them together.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Zoe could still come back. She didn't want kids; Kevin has them now and Madison will do much of the heavy lifting. It's also a fairly amicable situation, especially as Madison did the dumping. (So Zoe wouldn't be dealing with an angry ex-wife as mother of Kevin's kids.)

As for the music teacher....What did Kate and Toby ever have in common other than being overweight? Toby was able to overcome that; Kate wasn't. So, now, the differing ways they look at the weight issue in their son is driving them apart. Other than kids, this couple has NOTHING in common. Toby, unlike Beth, also doesn't seem to have to come to terms with the Pearsons' family dynamic.

At least with the music teacher, they both have a love of music and, to some extent, a loving of teaching children, in common. As someone who is a music teacher at a school for the blind, he is probably going to do a better job dealing with Jack's blindess than Toby is. And since we know that music ends up being Jack's "thing," it's also obvious that all 3 of them will share the love of music and he will probably be a better mentor in that regard than Toby--just because Toby has no other experience dealing with the blind.

I wouldn't be surprised if the story line is that the teacher recognizes how truly gifted at music Jack is and helps him a lot. Kate may see that with the kids the teacher is not the rude acerbic person he is with adults. He will see what a great mom Kate is--he's probably dealt with a lot of parents of blind children who do a worse job. So, it may be that it is Jack who brings them together.

This seems plausible.

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The Kate/Toby divorce then falling for music teacher and getting married seems so fast!

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Anonymous wrote:The Kate/Toby divorce then falling for music teacher and getting married seems so fast!

agree

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It also seems like Kate would hermit after a traumatic issue with Jack. Like she would never leave Jack with anyone after he almost got hurt. She would never allow herself "fun" or "love" because she would feel undeserving of it because Jack got hurt and she didn't protect him. She has always had such self loathing and self deprecating ideas. Even years in the future her dating seems off

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Anonymous wrote:The Kate/Toby divorce then falling for music teacher and getting married seems so fast!

agree

I think the divorce and marriage are years apart. Lots of time jumps in this series.

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Anonymous wrote:Foreshadow-y line of the week-
Randall, to Kevin: it's all part of parenting a teenager, as you'll see all too soon.

And then they made a point to let us know that Cassidy's kid is 12.

This was actually weird bc we didn’t see any teenage blow ups with Randall’s and Beth’s girls.

+1
I didn’t understand that exchange at all. Kevin was referring to the hard talk they had with Rebecca the night before and then Randall references teenagers?