Anyone going back to double masks or KN95s bc of Delta?

[Anonymous]

OP reality is we just don't know. UK was supposed to be a huge surge also in April and while cases did go up in this area, it ended up being totally fine because vaccination got ahead of it. For this - same thing, we don't know yet. Maybe we'll be generally fine because the vaccine rates are good here. Or maybe it'll be a surge. FWIW I think they lifted indoor masking way too soon and I'm not giving mine up (just one, indoor only) anytime soon.

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Anonymous wrote:For people who are saying they're mentally done with Covid/masks -- does it matter to you that Covid isn't done? Like new variants are popping up, don't have as great vax coverage, need seconds of exposure rather than minutes? Does mentally done = eh I'll take my chances?

My thoughts are if it is that transmissible then yes I will take my chances. Because if it evades vaccines then what is the end game? Stay inside for a few more years?

BTW -- newest info on Delta is that if it breaks thru the vax it is not like the other versions where it's a mild illness. If it breaks thru, the risk of hospitalization etc. is the same as it is for unvaccinated people. Per the UK where hospitalizations are up despite vax being up (though they're using a different vax).

But it … doesn’t get through (see earlier in thread)

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Anonymous wrote:So many people who really want this to get worse and not better. Some people thrive on doom and gloom I guess.

Right? I wonder what the endpoint is for these people if it isn’t effective vaccination that prevents serious illness and hospitalization. You’re really going to hide forever from a cold?

Before you start mocking people maybe look at the new data. For the other variants yes -- it prevented serious illness and hospitalization. For Delta it's different. If it doesn't break thru the vax you're fine. If it breaks thru you are at just as much risk for serious illness/hospital as if you weren't vaccinated. Look at the latest UK data.

So yeah you should want to NOT be exposed to this one.

Source?

Look it up - I'm not your junior associate. Hint - do searches for UK hospitalizations and see what comes up from the last few days.

Right. Why should anyone believe you if you aren’t going to link your sources?

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Anonymous wrote:For people who are saying they're mentally done with Covid/masks -- does it matter to you that Covid isn't done? Like new variants are popping up, don't have as great vax coverage, need seconds of exposure rather than minutes? Does mentally done = eh I'll take my chances?

My thoughts are if it is that transmissible then yes I will take my chances. Because if it evades vaccines then what is the end game? Stay inside for a few more years?

BTW -- newest info on Delta is that if it breaks thru the vax it is not like the other versions where it's a mild illness. If it breaks thru, the risk of hospitalization etc. is the same as it is for unvaccinated people. Per the UK where hospitalizations are up despite vax being up (though they're using a different vax).

But it … doesn’t get through (see earlier in thread)

It is in the UK, which is where OP is probably getting data. BUT OP UK is using non mRNA vaccines while comparatively a very small % of people here got J&J (in Va it's something like 300k people total). Plus this is the variant where 2 shots matters and UK was delaying shot #2 to get more people just 1 shot. So yeah I see why you're concerned but I think the posture is (hopefully) different here esp on the east coast where vax numbers are high.

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Anonymous wrote:So many people who really want this to get worse and not better. Some people thrive on doom and gloom I guess.

Right? I wonder what the endpoint is for these people if it isn’t effective vaccination that prevents serious illness and hospitalization. You’re really going to hide forever from a cold?

Before you start mocking people maybe look at the new data. For the other variants yes -- it prevented serious illness and hospitalization. For Delta it's different. If it doesn't break thru the vax you're fine. If it breaks thru you are at just as much risk for serious illness/hospital as if you weren't vaccinated. Look at the latest UK data.

So yeah you should want to NOT be exposed to this one.

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Look it up - I'm not your junior associate. Hint - do searches for UK hospitalizations and see what comes up from the last few days.

Right. Why should anyone believe you if you aren’t going to link your sources?

Because she's lying.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-06-18/delta-variant-makes-up-nearly-all-new-uk-coronavirus-cases

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Anonymous wrote:So many people who really want this to get worse and not better. Some people thrive on doom and gloom I guess.

Right? I wonder what the endpoint is for these people if it isn’t effective vaccination that prevents serious illness and hospitalization. You’re really going to hide forever from a cold?

We just need to transform as a society who actually cares about other people. We should all wear masks indoors and maybe outdoors too (just to be safe). It will prevent us getting colds, flu and covid. We need to work from home at least 3 days per week to minimize the risks. Children should wear masks at all times because they spread germs. We can do it! But we are all very very selfish. It is all about Me me me.

This is a troll trying to mess with the rationale people.

And who are you? Let me guess. An anti vaxx Trumper? I am not a troll. This is how we progress as a society. We need to try new things that works better.

[Anonymous]

No - my vaccine works.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely KN95. We must be protected and protect people around us! I hope people will stop being so selfish and understand the risks. I shake my head at unmasked people thinking the pandemic is over. No, it is not! It is only the beginning…

No, it’s not the “beginning.” This started a year and a half ago. Omg the delta strain is just what the covid crazies were hoping for.

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They are nuts!

[Anonymous]

I wear my N95 inside places. Outside, still mostly unmasked.

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Anonymous wrote:So many people who really want this to get worse and not better. Some people thrive on doom and gloom I guess.

Right? I wonder what the endpoint is for these people if it isn’t effective vaccination that prevents serious illness and hospitalization. You’re really going to hide forever from a cold?

Before you start mocking people maybe look at the new data. For the other variants yes -- it prevented serious illness and hospitalization. For Delta it's different. If it doesn't break thru the vax you're fine. If it breaks thru you are at just as much risk for serious illness/hospital as if you weren't vaccinated. Look at the latest UK data.

So yeah you should want to NOT be exposed to this one.

Source?

Look it up - I'm not your junior associate. Hint - do searches for UK hospitalizations and see what comes up from the last few days.

Right. Why should anyone believe you if you aren’t going to link your sources?

Because she's lying.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-06-18/delta-variant-makes-up-nearly-all-new-uk-coronavirus-cases

How am I lying - YOUR article is the one that says that hospitalizations in the UK have doubled in the last week and 10% of the hospitalized are fully vaccinated with 2 shots? But NBD huh??

My article is in FT: https://www.ft.com/content/d4abbe5e-8650-4a76-9fea-2d3efa2ed52b?sharetype=blocked

[Anonymous]

I'm going about my business with a mask on everywhere indoors as if the mask recommendations hadn't been lifted. Not double masking right now but watching the numbers. If they start to tick up, yeah I'll double mask. You won't miss the numbers ticking up because they're updated every day -- just keep an eye on it. Let these other fools do what they want -- I for one will mask and double mask as needed. They can say I'm hysterical or never want it to end or whatever, I don't care, I don't know them.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes; going back to double mask.

Delta is highly virulent, deadly, and the vaccines offer only partial protection.

Not risking it.

I would triple mask. Especially outside. It's very deadly/ but also can be confused with allergies. Be alert!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinated fully since early April. I had a few months of relaxing - coming and going as I pleased. I've always masked but had relaxed - one cloth mask. Now with all this talk about Delta and how quickly it's spreading (30% of US cases are now Delta as opposed to 10% a week ago) + how you only need a few seconds of exposure + how if it breaks thru the vaccine people still get really sick (so the vax doesn't guarantee asymptomatic or mild) + combined with the fact that life is resuming, I'm expected to be in office buildings and elevators etc. while most people are stopping masking (or maybe only 40-50% are masking in any situation), is it time to go back to double masks or KN95?

Or is the vax (mRNA) still holding up enough that this isn't necessary? I mean I figured I'd be back to double masking in the fall - not in the heat of the Virginia summer.

This makes no medical sense

[Anonymous]

Less vaccinated people are getting delta but the death rate is higher once they get it. It's out of the UK data.

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Right. Why should anyone believe you if you aren’t going to link your sources?

Every time I link to NHS data that shows UK HOSPITALIZATION IS NOT INCREASING, which is both true and relevant, someone intellectually dishonest deletes it.