This is behind a paywall. |
Looks like USNews is lying then. From the article above: As of June 14, PHE reports a total of 806 people in the hospital with the variant, an increase of 423 since last week. PHE = Public Health England - one of their gov't health agencies. |
Is anyone worried about the higher death rate for Delta for vaccinated vs unvaxxed? Perhaps older people are vaccinated? |
The UK used Astra Zeneca which was not as effective as any of the three vaccines approved here on the original strain. And yet the UK is doing rather well. |
27.5 million people have been fully vaccinated in the Uk. 84 are hospitalized with COVID. Do the math(s). |
This. I don’t understand why people are fear-mongering. |
I was wearing a multi layer cloth mask with filter before, but I’ve upgraded to KN95 indoors now, no mask outside unless the people in with prefer it. My vaccinations were completed in early February. The vaccine does not make you invincible…but it lessens the likelihood of a deadly case of covid. With new variants breaking through the vaccines, I’d rather err on the side of caution. As my employment requires close contact without the ability to distance it’s valuable to me to be more careful at work than I might be in other situations. |
NP Key sentences from FT story, which is mostly about the delta variant in Europe and was posted 21 hours ago: "Scientists across the continent are now looking to the UK — where Covid-19 cases have tripled in the past month and the Delta variant accounts for about 98 per cent of all new infections — for clues about what may happen next and which measures may need to be taken." "After official data showed the Delta variant appeared to increase the risk of hospitalisation by 2.2 times compared with the Alpha variant, the UK government this week imposed a one month delay to the removal of its remaining coronavirus restrictions." "According to data gathered by Public Health England, the first dose of a Covid-19 vaccine is generally less effective against the Delta variant than with the previous strains. Two doses increases protection against symptomatic infection with Delta from 33 per cent to 81 per cent." |
AZ and J and J are less effective against the delta variant:
Dr. Scott Gottlieb, the former head of the Food and Drug Administration, said recently on CBS News’s “Face the Nation” that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is “60% effective” against the Delta strain. “The mRNA vaccine seems to be highly effective, two doses of that vaccine against this variant,” Gottlieb said, referring to the Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines. “The viral vector vaccines from J&J and AstraZeneca also appear to be effective, about 60% effective. The mRNA vaccines are about 88% effective.” https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/06/delta-covid-variant-does-johnson-johnson-vaccine-work-against-the-new-coronavirus-strain.html |
What's more effective against Delta- one Pfizer or J&J? I read that one Pfizer is 94% against hospitalization. |
I've never not used a KN95. But we'll see how much it helps without the mandates. There's not much ventilation in some indoor spaces. |
2 Pfizer like any sane person would get |
That's not the question. One Pfizer is 94% effective, 2 is 96%. And this is for someone who had an allergic reaction. Prob not worth dying for a 2% increase. |
If you're double masking still you're far from sane |
If you had an allergic reaction, you shouldn't be asking for advice here. |