HOA pool ban for prior vandalism of HOA property

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the Russian teens running the pool are going to keep them out? Seems like having them have to clean up the bathrooms after hours would be better punishment.

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Having them scrub the nasty toilets ALL summer is something they would never forget. Banning them for several years won't really accomplish anything except make the entire family resent the cows on the HOA board.

How would you enforce this? HOAs have little to no power to make people do stuff (except pay where it is in HOA documents) but it is much easier to exclude people from using community property.

This. What do you want them to do? Hire a separate community manager for a summer, probably at a cost of $20,000, just to watch those kids scrub toilets?

Damn you sure are dense. Do you take everything literally?

So you didn’t want them to clean the toilets all summer? You meant it metaphorically, whatever that means?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the Russian teens running the pool are going to keep them out? Seems like having them have to clean up the bathrooms after hours would be better punishment.

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Having them scrub the nasty toilets ALL summer is something they would never forget. Banning them for several years won't really accomplish anything except make the entire family resent the cows on the HOA board.

How would you enforce this? HOAs have little to no power to make people do stuff (except pay where it is in HOA documents) but it is much easier to exclude people from using community property.

Tell them to scrub the toilets. If they don't do it, then ban them from the pool. It's not that hard.

Who is enforcing and monitoring all this? Yes, actually, at a place like an HOA, enforcing everyday clean up for 12 weeks is tough. This is an HOA not a set of parents. Not the HOAs job to teach a lesson.

Ok hardass, then call the cops and throw the middle schooler in jail.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Russian teens running the pool are going to keep them out? Seems like having them have to clean up the bathrooms after hours would be better punishment.

+1
Having them scrub the nasty toilets ALL summer is something they would never forget. Banning them for several years won't really accomplish anything except make the entire family resent the cows on the HOA board.

How would you enforce this? HOAs have little to no power to make people do stuff (except pay where it is in HOA documents) but it is much easier to exclude people from using community property.

Tell them to scrub the toilets. If they don't do it, then ban them from the pool. It's not that hard.

Who is enforcing and monitoring all this? Yes, actually, at a place like an HOA, enforcing everyday clean up for 12 weeks is tough. This is an HOA not a set of parents. Not the HOAs job to teach a lesson.

Ok hardass, then call the cops and throw the middle schooler in jail.

Or just tell them can’t use the pool until they grow up. See how much easier that is on everyone?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the Russian teens running the pool are going to keep them out? Seems like having them have to clean up the bathrooms after hours would be better punishment.

+1
Having them scrub the nasty toilets ALL summer is something they would never forget. Banning them for several years won't really accomplish anything except make the entire family resent the cows on the HOA board.

How would you enforce this? HOAs have little to no power to make people do stuff (except pay where it is in HOA documents) but it is much easier to exclude people from using community property.

Tell them to scrub the toilets. If they don't do it, then ban them from the pool. It's not that hard.

Who is enforcing and monitoring all this? Yes, actually, at a place like an HOA, enforcing everyday clean up for 12 weeks is tough. This is an HOA not a set of parents. Not the HOAs job to teach a lesson.

Ok hardass, then call the cops and throw the middle schooler in jail.

Or just tell them can’t use the pool until they grow up. See how much easier that is on everyone?

That works out great until the HOA board members are replaced and the kids are allowed back in the pool. I don't think they would have much of a case, but this HOA has been sued before.

If their ban was reasonable, then it would never have been an issue. But you aren't dealing with reasonable people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:11 year olds are usually in grade 5. Kids turn 11 in grade 5.

An 11 yr old in October is a 6th grader. They turn 11 in fall - summer of 5th grade. Unless you redshirt. This little shit probably is. He has issues.

[Anonymous]

My DS who is older than most his friends turned 11 in 5th grade in December. it's 100% a 6th grader in October unless he got held back 2 years

[Anonymous]

Lots of hateful old farts posting today. I wonder if they were thrown in jail for all of the criminal acts they committed back in the day?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Russian teens running the pool are going to keep them out? Seems like having them have to clean up the bathrooms after hours would be better punishment.

+1
Having them scrub the nasty toilets ALL summer is something they would never forget. Banning them for several years won't really accomplish anything except make the entire family resent the cows on the HOA board.

How would you enforce this? HOAs have little to no power to make people do stuff (except pay where it is in HOA documents) but it is much easier to exclude people from using community property.

Tell them to scrub the toilets. If they don't do it, then ban them from the pool. It's not that hard.

Who is enforcing and monitoring all this? Yes, actually, at a place like an HOA, enforcing everyday clean up for 12 weeks is tough. This is an HOA not a set of parents. Not the HOAs job to teach a lesson.

Ok hardass, then call the cops and throw the middle schooler in jail.

Or just tell them can’t use the pool until they grow up. See how much easier that is on everyone?

That works out great until the HOA board members are replaced and the kids are allowed back in the pool. I don't think they would have much of a case, [/b]but this HOA has been sued before. [b]

If their ban was reasonable, then it would never have been an issue. But you aren't dealing with reasonable people.

Interesting. Care to elaborate? Although based on their actions here it’s not surprising.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Russian teens running the pool are going to keep them out? Seems like having them have to clean up the bathrooms after hours would be better punishment.

+1
Having them scrub the nasty toilets ALL summer is something they would never forget. Banning them for several years won't really accomplish anything except make the entire family resent the cows on the HOA board.

How would you enforce this? HOAs have little to no power to make people do stuff (except pay where it is in HOA documents) but it is much easier to exclude people from using community property.

Tell them to scrub the toilets. If they don't do it, then ban them from the pool. It's not that hard.

Who is enforcing and monitoring all this? Yes, actually, at a place like an HOA, enforcing everyday clean up for 12 weeks is tough. This is an HOA not a set of parents. Not the HOAs job to teach a lesson.

Ok hardass, then call the cops and throw the middle schooler in jail.

Or just tell them can’t use the pool until they grow up. See how much easier that is on everyone?

That works out great until the HOA board members are replaced and the kids are allowed back in the pool. I don't think they would have much of a case, [/b]but this HOA has been sued before. [b]

If their ban was reasonable, then it would never have been an issue. But you aren't dealing with reasonable people.

Interesting. Care to elaborate? Although based on their actions here it’s not surprising.

It was a discrimination suit that came from a prospective HOA board member.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty effective punishment and a good deterrent to others. I wish our HOA was like this. No one wants entitled little sh1ts spoiling the vibes of a community. Everyone cares about their property values.

And this is why people despise HOAs. People get an entirely worthless position and they think get on a power trip.

I will never live in a place that has HOAs.

Archie Bunkers come out of the woodwork.

This happens at non-HOA pools too. I used to be on the board at one. If a child or in some cases an adult was violating the rules or caused property damage, we could revoke their membership and ask them to pay fees for damages incurred. This was infrequent but it did happen. There's no way we would have banned a kid for multiple seasons unless there were prior incidents that the family was not willing to address.

[Anonymous]

The mom mentioned in this piece has a lot of news stories about her. Just google her name and "Virginia." She craves media attention. I think something is off with her, and she seems to be willing to use her children as a means of getting attention.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:11 year olds are usually in grade 5. Kids turn 11 in grade 5.

An 11 yr old in October is a 6th grader. They turn 11 in fall - summer of 5th grade. Unless you redshirt. This little shit probably is. He has issues.

Wow. You're a gross person. Makes me really sad for your kid. They're probably depressed that you're their parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The mom mentioned in this piece has a lot of news stories about her. Just google her name and "Virginia." She craves media attention. I think something is off with her, and she seems to be willing to use her children as a means of getting attention.

This. You can also search for her in the online (public) VA courts page. The kid's father too (different last name than the mom, but you can easily find his name when you are google searching her.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The mom mentioned in this piece has a lot of news stories about her. Just google her name and "Virginia." She craves media attention. I think something is off with her, and she seems to be willing to use her children as a means of getting attention.

Wow, you're right.

She accused Parkside Middle School nurse of trying to kill her son Gavin in 2016 and then had a VA Office of Civil Rights investigation into the PWCS system.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/federal-investigation-into-pwc-schools-handling-of-diabetic-child/65-328126177

Then her mother died in a nursing home during the Covid pandemic in 2020 and Joni was back in the news.
https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/manassas-grandmother-dies-after-contracting-coronavirus-in-rehabilitation-center/article_aeac525a-88fb-11ea-a358-e3e5d994f249.html

Now its 2021 and this?

[Anonymous]

I actually feel kind of bad for the kid that got 7 years. It seems he does not have a strong family/home life and is someone that could actually really use the stability/inclusion of an activity like a neighborhood swim team and pool.

I've seen juveniles commit far more heinous crimes, and get much less serious consequences.