Teacher turnover

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Anonymous wrote:Ah, you’re the “butt hurt” teacher! I knew I recognized you. Yes, you should move schools.

Best word I have to describe parents that hate teachers for closing schools (incorrect), lumping all teachers in as the WTU (also incorrect), or think teachers are lazy and paid too much.

[Anonymous]

The announcements haven’t started rolling out at our WOP ES, but rumor is there’s a mass exodus coming our way. I’m assuming some are leaving because of the principal, some because of the behavior of many families during reopening, and the rest just life in a transient city such as ours.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

You weren’t able to answer the first time so I’ll try again, what exactly are you trying to hold me accountable for? My admin seems to think my work is exemplary based on my reviews so I’d love to hear what I’m missing from the parent side

Did you go on strike in November?

Sure did, and I’d do it again. DCPS had a haphazard plan that no part of the education community (principals also opposed this plan, as did the state board of Ed) supported. If that one day sick out was what forced DCPS to engage with their partners on reopening then it was absolutely worth it. If you’re the type of parent still butt hurt over that, well then I don’t really know what to tell you.

Well, there you go. You needed to be held accountable, and you will continue to be held accountable.

What does that even mean? You’re just planning on hating every teacher forever that did the sick out? That’s certainly your choice, but it’s a weird one

No, but you better bet that I will be extremely proactive about pushing changes that I think will benefit my kid or solving problems for them. Because the pandemic closures have taught me that the system will not be accountable unless forced.

That’s great! We appreciate parents that advocate for their kids. What will that ideally look like for you next year?

It will look like everyone in the classroom like in 2018. Any other questions?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

You weren’t able to answer the first time so I’ll try again, what exactly are you trying to hold me accountable for? My admin seems to think my work is exemplary based on my reviews so I’d love to hear what I’m missing from the parent side

Did you go on strike in November?

Sure did, and I’d do it again. DCPS had a haphazard plan that no part of the education community (principals also opposed this plan, as did the state board of Ed) supported. If that one day sick out was what forced DCPS to engage with their partners on reopening then it was absolutely worth it. If you’re the type of parent still butt hurt over that, well then I don’t really know what to tell you.

Well, there you go. You needed to be held accountable, and you will continue to be held accountable.

What does that even mean? You’re just planning on hating every teacher forever that did the sick out? That’s certainly your choice, but it’s a weird one

No, but you better bet that I will be extremely proactive about pushing changes that I think will benefit my kid or solving problems for them. Because the pandemic closures have taught me that the system will not be accountable unless forced.

That’s great! We appreciate parents that advocate for their kids. What will that ideally look like for you next year?

It will look like everyone in the classroom like in 2018. Any other questions?

Nope - that’s what’s going to happen. Glad we’re all on the same page. You good to move on now?

[Anonymous]

I dont blame after the pandemic and craziness. Teachers can make so much more money in the private sector doing corporate training. After reading a ton of posts here, parents in DC suck too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ah, you’re the “butt hurt” teacher! I knew I recognized you. Yes, you should move schools.

Best word I have to describe parents that hate teachers for closing schools (incorrect), lumping all teachers in as the WTU (also incorrect), or think teachers are lazy and paid too much.

And you use it all the time.

What word would you use to describe parents who don’t do any of the above and yet still wanted their kids to go to school in person during the last 15 months? Perhaps more than 40 hours in person during that entire time? Or even any amount of in-person? Even one hour?

You paint with the same broad brush as do the parents you are trying to avoid. Strange bedfellows you have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ah, you’re the “butt hurt” teacher! I knew I recognized you. Yes, you should move schools.

Best word I have to describe parents that hate teachers for closing schools (incorrect), lumping all teachers in as the WTU (also incorrect), or think teachers are lazy and paid too much.

And you use it all the time.

What word would you use to describe parents who don’t do any of the above and yet still wanted their kids to go to school in person during the last 15 months? Perhaps more than 40 hours in person during that entire time? Or even any amount of in-person? Even one hour?

You paint with the same broad brush as do the parents you are trying to avoid. Strange bedfellows you have.

That’s why I only use it with the butthurt ones, such as you. Love 99% of my families but some people on this site gotta get got

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

Yes you opened the schools. Great. But when you continue to act like that pre and post pandemic. It’s runs people out. I have one parent who emails me at least 4 times A DAY. And complains about every single thing you can think of. Everything. Attempts to debate every single assignment grade, every assessment, etc. This parent is an extreme example and their kid is literally the hot potato of the grade. But if you have 10-15 kids like this with the parents acting even 25% this crazy...it runs teachers out. People can only deal with things like this so long.

Yes, that sounds exhausting and annoying. But my kid's teachers (despite having had the whole extra-long summer to prepare) were totally and inexcusable unorganized at the start of the year. Parents had to get togehter en masse to get them to even post a schedule on Canvas with links, instead of expecting the kids to know to look in 8 million different places. A little bit of executive function and planning would have prevented that.

We had 5 days to learn how to set up canvas. Not an entire summer.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

If that’s what you got out of my statement then sure go with that. What exactly am I supposed to be accountable to parents for?

Are you serious? For teaching their kids and for treating them fairly

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

If that’s what you got out of my statement then sure go with that. What exactly am I supposed to be accountable to parents for?

Are you serious? For teaching their kids and for treating them fairly

Sounds like that teacher did/does that. What is your problem???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's probably going to be a lot of turnover in a lot of professions. The pandemic has a lot of people rethinking their career choices.

Teachers in DC seem like they have a pretty cushy gig. They are extremely well paid and their union runs the schools. If they move somewhere else, they're likely going to take a pay cut and other school systems are not going to be so deferential to all their demands.

Extremely well paid? Are you kidding? This shows how you don’t value the work teachers do. Yes, they make more than teachers in Alabama and West Virginia but that hardly means they are well paid.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

If that’s what you got out of my statement then sure go with that. What exactly am I supposed to be accountable to parents for?

Are you serious? For teaching their kids and for treating them fairly

Sounds like that teacher did/does that. What is your problem???

Yeah I am the OP that was asking what parents were holding me accountable for. Seeing that answer, I guess I’m in good graces because I’ve done that all year. Glad to know I’ve met parent expectations during this difficult year, even if they haven’t realized it yet

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher and I’m not surprised. I know many people who have decided to leave the profession at least for a few years (mostly women who have very young kids and want to just stay home with them) and many who moved elsewhere during the pandemic and are just choosing not to move back. There is also the looming threat of simulcasting that makes some people (myself included) question whether another year of this is worth it.

OP here- yes, a lot of our teachers moved somewhere and are just going to stay there.

Re: Simulcasting -- have teachers made it clear to their admins and the union that this is a major issue? Because I think its something that could help move the needle.

maybe WTU should have anticipated that simulcasting might be the consequence of their scare tactics and insistence on virtual options in 2021-22. If you don’t want simulcasting, talk to your union. They did it.

I think the teachers who are leaving have already dealt with the situation from their perspective. Now the parents will have to deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes there will be a ton of turnover this summer. But it’s looking like that in a lot of industries.

Wouldn't we know already, if our school has already announced who is leaving? Didn't they already have to commit for the next year?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

If that’s what you got out of my statement then sure go with that. What exactly am I supposed to be accountable to parents for?

Are you serious? For teaching their kids and for treating them fairly

Sounds like that teacher did/does that. What is your problem???

Yeah I am the OP that was asking what parents were holding me accountable for. Seeing that answer, I guess I’m in good graces because I’ve done that all year. Glad to know I’ve met parent expectations during this difficult year, even if they haven’t realized it yet

My guess is the PP meant teaching effectively, which means in person.