Teacher turnover

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Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

They actually have a choice? It's pretty standard that they backfill in places I've lived. Maybe this is before being voluntold 🤷🏽‍♂️

Central office is widely understaffed themselves. I truly don't think they have anyone to sub.

UNDERSTAFFED? We have one the biggest central office (for number of students) in the country.

+1000

Central office is absurdly bloated. Just look up some of the titles of jobs- they are just random buzzwords written at the words ‘Chief of’ to sound important. No one has any clue what they do.

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Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

They actually have a choice? It's pretty standard that they backfill in places I've lived. Maybe this is before being voluntold 🤷🏽‍♂️

Central office is widely understaffed themselves. I truly don't think they have anyone to sub.

They obviously have at least 50 whose job doesn’t need doing from now until September 30.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

They actually have a choice? It's pretty standard that they backfill in places I've lived. Maybe this is before being voluntold 🤷🏽‍♂️

Central office is widely understaffed themselves. I truly don't think they have anyone to sub.

UNDERSTAFFED? We have one the biggest central office (for number of students) in the country.

+1000

Central office is absurdly bloated. Just look up some of the titles of jobs- they are just random buzzwords written at the words ‘Chief of’ to sound important. No one has any clue what they do.

I often wonder if the bloat in Central is a remnant of the Barry years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

They actually have a choice? It's pretty standard that they backfill in places I've lived. Maybe this is before being voluntold 🤷🏽‍♂️

Central office is widely understaffed themselves. I truly don't think they have anyone to sub.

They obviously have at least 50 whose job doesn’t need doing from now until September 30.

This is a fantastic point! How important can your job be in you don’t have to do it for a month and nothing seems to change or fall apart? Now multiply that by 50! I also really like how they will suspend evaluations or whatever during that time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

They actually have a choice? It's pretty standard that they backfill in places I've lived. Maybe this is before being voluntold 🤷🏽‍♂️

Central office is widely understaffed themselves. I truly don't think they have anyone to sub.

They obviously have at least 50 whose job doesn’t need doing from now until September 30.

This is a fantastic point! How important can your job be in you don’t have to do it for a month and nothing seems to change or fall apart? Now multiply that by 50! I also really like how they will suspend evaluations or whatever during that time.

DCPS central office staff is larger than school districts more than three times its size. Insanity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

They actually have a choice? It's pretty standard that they backfill in places I've lived. Maybe this is before being voluntold 🤷🏽‍♂️

Central office is widely understaffed themselves. I truly don't think they have anyone to sub.

They obviously have at least 50 whose job doesn’t need doing from now until September 30.

This is a fantastic point! How important can your job be in you don’t have to do it for a month and nothing seems to change or fall apart? Now multiply that by 50! I also really like how they will suspend evaluations or whatever during that time.

DCPS central office staff is larger than school districts more than three times its size. Insanity.

It's true and I worked for a school system that was double the size in another state. I can't believe my liberal fingers are even writing "government waste," but it's atrocious in DCPS. The fact that we have no state, a state superintendent, school board members, state school board members... is telling in itself... we ain't got that many schools bruh!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

They actually have a choice? It's pretty standard that they backfill in places I've lived. Maybe this is before being voluntold 🤷🏽‍♂️

Central office is widely understaffed themselves. I truly don't think they have anyone to sub.

They obviously have at least 50 whose job doesn’t need doing from now until September 30.

This is a fantastic point! How important can your job be in you don’t have to do it for a month and nothing seems to change or fall apart? Now multiply that by 50! I also really like how they will suspend evaluations or whatever during that time.

DCPS central office staff is larger than school districts more than three times its size. Insanity.

It's true and I worked for a school system that was double the size in another state. I can't believe my liberal fingers are even writing "government waste," but it's atrocious in DCPS. The fact that we have no state, a state superintendent, school board members, state school board members... is telling in itself... we ain't got that many schools bruh!

+1

OSSE on top of DCPS on top of the charter board for a city is a waste of money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

They actually have a choice? It's pretty standard that they backfill in places I've lived. Maybe this is before being voluntold 🤷🏽‍♂️

Central office is widely understaffed themselves. I truly don't think they have anyone to sub.

UNDERSTAFFED? We have one the biggest central office (for number of students) in the country.

+1000

Central office is absurdly bloated. Just look up some of the titles of jobs- they are just random buzzwords written at the words ‘Chief of’ to sound important. No one has any clue what they do.

I often wonder if the bloat in Central is a remnant of the Barry years.

DCPS had a board of education when Marion Barry was Mayor. You can trace the current size of central office back to Adrian Fenty & Michelle Rhee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

They actually have a choice? It's pretty standard that they backfill in places I've lived. Maybe this is before being voluntold 🤷🏽‍♂️

Central office is widely understaffed themselves. I truly don't think they have anyone to sub.

UNDERSTAFFED? We have one the biggest central office (for number of students) in the country.

+1000

Central office is absurdly bloated. Just look up some of the titles of jobs- they are just random buzzwords written at the words ‘Chief of’ to sound important. No one has any clue what they do.

I often wonder if the bloat in Central is a remnant of the Barry years.

DCPS had a board of education when Marion Barry was Mayor. You can trace the current size of central office back to Adrian Fenty & Michelle Rhee.

+1 the jobs and titles created by Rhee’s admin was asinine. Even the idea that principals today need all sorts of support staff bc they whine about the work load yet they still find a reason to
Stay holed up in their offices or get lunchtime manicures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to troll (seriously), but why is teacher turnover something to worry about? As long as it's not within the year, does it really affect students?

Is high turnover ever good in any job?

The previous year saw so many teacher not wait till summer to quit. Never in my 30 years have I seen so many leave during the course of a school year. Teachers have somehow managed to get to the end. Not nowadays.

The other issue with turnover is the replacement. Will it be a first-year teacher or will it be a sub because there was nobody in the hiring pool? If you get an experienced teacher, it is another school's loss that has brought your gain.

Apparently an email went out to central office staff looking for 50 volunteers to sub in schools until September 30. No idea which central office staff got the email or for what positions they would be used for.

They were supposed to do this last year and no one ever showed up to my school. Instead, many teachers (some said no) lost planning periods 3 and sometimes 4 times a week because we had to cover classes. I’m saying no this year. I’m done working 12 hour days because I no one from Central Office can be bothered to pitch in. Other counties in the area used central office employees for coverage last year. I guess the chancellor is too afraid of his staff rebelling if they have to actually do some work.

They actually have a choice? It's pretty standard that they backfill in places I've lived. Maybe this is before being voluntold 🤷🏽‍♂️

Central office is widely understaffed themselves. I truly don't think they have anyone to sub.

UNDERSTAFFED? We have one the biggest central office (for number of students) in the country.

+1000

Central office is absurdly bloated. Just look up some of the titles of jobs- they are just random buzzwords written at the words ‘Chief of’ to sound important. No one has any clue what they do.

I often wonder if the bloat in Central is a remnant of the Barry years.

DCPS had a board of education when Marion Barry was Mayor. You can trace the current size of central office back to Adrian Fenty & Michelle Rhee.

+1 the jobs and titles created by Rhee’s admin was asinine. Even the idea that principals today need all sorts of support staff bc they whine about the work load yet they still find a reason to
Stay holed up in their offices or get lunchtime manicures.

+1

Such a true statement. My principal never leaves the office. There are apparently emails and meetings to fill a 50 hour work week. Learn the kids’ names? No time to talk to a student.

[Anonymous]

I think there are people of value at central office that handle many valuable tasks, payroll for all dcps employees, licensure, online learning platforms, special education compliance, etc. We cant put everyone in the same “useless” box because these people are hard working and well intentioned. But Central should def be examined for overlap. Also, Central should all be qual/certif to sub and sub minimum one day a month. Last, Teachers should make more than central which I view as “support staff” not instructional essential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think there are people of value at central office that handle many valuable tasks, payroll for all dcps employees, licensure, online learning platforms, special education compliance, etc. We cant put everyone in the same “useless” box because these people are hard working and well intentioned. But Central should def be examined for overlap. Also, Central should all be qual/certif to sub and sub minimum one day a month. Last, Teachers should make more than central which I view as “support staff” not instructional essential.

I don’t think anyone is arguing that all of central office is unnecessary. Of course you need HR, payroll, SPED, licensure. But if you look at other districts they are just no where near as top heavy. Compare DCPS to Montgomery County- they might have 1/3 of the central office staff and 3x the students. That’s inefficient. DCPS’ needs aren’t so different from other urban areas that we need twice the central office staff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are people of value at central office that handle many valuable tasks, payroll for all dcps employees, licensure, online learning platforms, special education compliance, etc. We cant put everyone in the same “useless” box because these people are hard working and well intentioned. But Central should def be examined for overlap. Also, Central should all be qual/certif to sub and sub minimum one day a month. Last, Teachers should make more than central which I view as “support staff” not instructional essential.

I don’t think anyone is arguing that all of central office is unnecessary. Of course you need HR, payroll, SPED, licensure. But if you look at other districts they are just no where near as top heavy. Compare DCPS to Montgomery County- they might have 1/3 of the central office staff and 3x the students. That’s inefficient. DCPS’ needs aren’t so different from other urban areas that we need twice the central office staff.

Central office doesn’t even handle licensure. OSSE does that. They are inefficient, but it’s part of their role.

[Anonymous]

Majority of KIPP valor middle school left, myself included. They are unorganized, uncaring, and unsupportive. The discipline policy is laughable and the students get away with everything. I am so glad I left that school and now at a private school in georgetown.

[Anonymous]

Basis lost a lot of HS and MS teachers after last year. Most switched to DCPS schools.