Teacher turnover

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

[Anonymous]

Yes there will be a ton of turnover this summer. But it’s looking like that in a lot of industries.

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Anonymous wrote:There's probably going to be a lot of turnover in a lot of professions. The pandemic has a lot of people rethinking their career choices.

Teachers in DC seem like they have a pretty cushy gig. They are extremely well paid and their union runs the schools. If they move somewhere else, they're likely going to take a pay cut and other school systems are not going to be so deferential to all their demands.

I moved from DCPS to MCPS a couple years ago. Yes, I took a small paycut but I’m much happier. MCPS has issues for sure, no question about it, but it is still much better run than DCPS. My principal is pretty good and is way less capricious and high handed than my old DCPS principal. The office staff at my new school is not great but the assistant principals are much stronger overall. Central office curriculum resources for my content area are fairly decent unlike some of the mish-mash DCPS used to send our way. Some of the MCPS professional development is also not great (similar to DCPS) but in general, the central office staff seems to be of higher quality than DCPS even though they are paid less than their DCPS counterparts. I think there is less cronyism and less of people hiring their friends. I’m happy I made the switch although life is not perfect.

Aren't class sizes bigger in most elementaries?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

You weren’t able to answer the first time so I’ll try again, what exactly are you trying to hold me accountable for? My admin seems to think my work is exemplary based on my reviews so I’d love to hear what I’m missing from the parent side

[Anonymous]

Yes, turn over matters. No- it isn’t the end of the world.
My NW ES is losing 5 teachers. That number will likely climb over the summer months. I know I’m trying to scoot, too.
We are also losing our AP.
Turnover isn’t anything new. Schools adjust quickly- and then quickly again when the new batch leaves.
Teaching really isn’t LT anymore. You come for a few years and then trade up.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

You weren’t able to answer the first time so I’ll try again, what exactly are you trying to hold me accountable for? My admin seems to think my work is exemplary based on my reviews so I’d love to hear what I’m missing from the parent side

Did you go on strike in November?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

Yes you opened the schools. Great. But when you continue to act like that pre and post pandemic. It’s runs people out. I have one parent who emails me at least 4 times A DAY. And complains about every single thing you can think of. Everything. Attempts to debate every single assignment grade, every assessment, etc. This parent is an extreme example and their kid is literally the hot potato of the grade. But if you have 10-15 kids like this with the parents acting even 25% this crazy...it runs teachers out. People can only deal with things like this so long.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

You weren’t able to answer the first time so I’ll try again, what exactly are you trying to hold me accountable for? My admin seems to think my work is exemplary based on my reviews so I’d love to hear what I’m missing from the parent side

Did you go on strike in November?

Sure did, and I’d do it again. DCPS had a haphazard plan that no part of the education community (principals also opposed this plan, as did the state board of Ed) supported. If that one day sick out was what forced DCPS to engage with their partners on reopening then it was absolutely worth it. If you’re the type of parent still butt hurt over that, well then I don’t really know what to tell you.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

Yes you opened the schools. Great. But when you continue to act like that pre and post pandemic. It’s runs people out. I have one parent who emails me at least 4 times A DAY. And complains about every single thing you can think of. Everything. Attempts to debate every single assignment grade, every assessment, etc. This parent is an extreme example and their kid is literally the hot potato of the grade. But if you have 10-15 kids like this with the parents acting even 25% this crazy...it runs teachers out. People can only deal with things like this so long.

+1 nothing like the parents who start out emails “I know you’re really busy and don’t have time to answer this but…”

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

You weren’t able to answer the first time so I’ll try again, what exactly are you trying to hold me accountable for? My admin seems to think my work is exemplary based on my reviews so I’d love to hear what I’m missing from the parent side

Did you go on strike in November?

Sure did, and I’d do it again. DCPS had a haphazard plan that no part of the education community (principals also opposed this plan, as did the state board of Ed) supported. If that one day sick out was what forced DCPS to engage with their partners on reopening then it was absolutely worth it. If you’re the type of parent still butt hurt over that, well then I don’t really know what to tell you.

Well, there you go. You needed to be held accountable, and you will continue to be held accountable.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

Yes you opened the schools. Great. But when you continue to act like that pre and post pandemic. It’s runs people out. I have one parent who emails me at least 4 times A DAY. And complains about every single thing you can think of. Everything. Attempts to debate every single assignment grade, every assessment, etc. This parent is an extreme example and their kid is literally the hot potato of the grade. But if you have 10-15 kids like this with the parents acting even 25% this crazy...it runs teachers out. People can only deal with things like this so long.

Yes, that sounds exhausting and annoying. But my kid's teachers (despite having had the whole extra-long summer to prepare) were totally and inexcusable unorganized at the start of the year. Parents had to get togehter en masse to get them to even post a schedule on Canvas with links, instead of expecting the kids to know to look in 8 million different places. A little bit of executive function and planning would have prevented that.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

You weren’t able to answer the first time so I’ll try again, what exactly are you trying to hold me accountable for? My admin seems to think my work is exemplary based on my reviews so I’d love to hear what I’m missing from the parent side

Did you go on strike in November?

Sure did, and I’d do it again. DCPS had a haphazard plan that no part of the education community (principals also opposed this plan, as did the state board of Ed) supported. If that one day sick out was what forced DCPS to engage with their partners on reopening then it was absolutely worth it. If you’re the type of parent still butt hurt over that, well then I don’t really know what to tell you.

Well, there you go. You needed to be held accountable, and you will continue to be held accountable.

What does that even mean? You’re just planning on hating every teacher forever that did the sick out? That’s certainly your choice, but it’s a weird one

[Anonymous]

Ah, you’re the “butt hurt” teacher! I knew I recognized you. Yes, you should move schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

You weren’t able to answer the first time so I’ll try again, what exactly are you trying to hold me accountable for? My admin seems to think my work is exemplary based on my reviews so I’d love to hear what I’m missing from the parent side

Did you go on strike in November?

Sure did, and I’d do it again. DCPS had a haphazard plan that no part of the education community (principals also opposed this plan, as did the state board of Ed) supported. If that one day sick out was what forced DCPS to engage with their partners on reopening then it was absolutely worth it. If you’re the type of parent still butt hurt over that, well then I don’t really know what to tell you.

Well, there you go. You needed to be held accountable, and you will continue to be held accountable.

What does that even mean? You’re just planning on hating every teacher forever that did the sick out? That’s certainly your choice, but it’s a weird one

No, but you better bet that I will be extremely proactive about pushing changes that I think will benefit my kid or solving problems for them. Because the pandemic closures have taught me that the system will not be accountable unless forced.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it any different than prior years? And is it purely about teachers being disgruntled? It sounds like some teachers moved because they....uh....wanted their kids to go to school in person and they are just staying someplace else?

I’m leaving my NW ES purely bc the families showed themselves to be really rude and entitled during the reopening period. I’m very excited to get out of the toxic W3 school culture.

So are you going to a different DCPS? Or what?

Yep different DCPS EOTP don’t want to get too detailed on here but it wasn’t too hard to find a school happy to take on a teacher with 5 straight years of highly effective scores. Looking forward to getting back to working with kids instead of placating overbearing parents

translation: you don’t want to be held accountable by parents so you’re moving to a school where you hope that less affluent parents will be less uppity.

DP. It’s not being held accountable. It’s parents being overbearing and “bulldozer” parents.

Overbearing "bulldozer" parents are why those schools opened. And hence why PP is moving to a school where parents demand less accountability. She doesn't like it.

You weren’t able to answer the first time so I’ll try again, what exactly are you trying to hold me accountable for? My admin seems to think my work is exemplary based on my reviews so I’d love to hear what I’m missing from the parent side

Did you go on strike in November?

Sure did, and I’d do it again. DCPS had a haphazard plan that no part of the education community (principals also opposed this plan, as did the state board of Ed) supported. If that one day sick out was what forced DCPS to engage with their partners on reopening then it was absolutely worth it. If you’re the type of parent still butt hurt over that, well then I don’t really know what to tell you.

Well, there you go. You needed to be held accountable, and you will continue to be held accountable.

What does that even mean? You’re just planning on hating every teacher forever that did the sick out? That’s certainly your choice, but it’s a weird one

No, but you better bet that I will be extremely proactive about pushing changes that I think will benefit my kid or solving problems for them. Because the pandemic closures have taught me that the system will not be accountable unless forced.

That’s great! We appreciate parents that advocate for their kids. What will that ideally look like for you next year?