Lottery is Off the Table

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Whites have a tendency to demonize any group that threatens their position with manufactured infractions.

Funny you say that because the entire lottery proposal is Scott Brabrand responding to pressure from Ricardy Anderson and Karen Keys Gamarra (black members of the School Board) and the Fairfax NAACP to do something about the low number of black and Hispanic students at TJ.

I guess if you have some conspiracy view of the world you'd say the whites just go along with it because they know it will have the most impact on Asians and work out OK for them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Whites have a tendency to demonize any group that threatens their position with manufactured infractions.

Funny you say that because the entire lottery proposal is Scott Brabrand responding to pressure from Ricardy Anderson and Karen Keys Gamarra (black members of the School Board) and the Fairfax NAACP to do something about the low number of black and Hispanic students at TJ.

I guess if you have some conspiracy view of the world you'd say the whites just go along with it because they know it will have the most impact on Asians and work out OK for them.

White students are projected to increase substantially under their proposals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Whites have a tendency to demonize any group that threatens their position with manufactured infractions.

Funny you say that because the entire lottery proposal is Scott Brabrand responding to pressure from Ricardy Anderson and Karen Keys Gamarra (black members of the School Board) and the Fairfax NAACP to do something about the low number of black and Hispanic students at TJ.

I guess if you have some conspiracy view of the world you'd say the whites just go along with it because they know it will have the most impact on Asians and work out OK for them.

White students are projected to increase substantially under their proposals.

Supt. Is in a difficult position, and he does not have the wherewithal to manage it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Whites have a tendency to demonize any group that threatens their position with manufactured infractions.

Funny you say that because the entire lottery proposal is Scott Brabrand responding to pressure from Ricardy Anderson and Karen Keys Gamarra (black members of the School Board) and the Fairfax NAACP to do something about the low number of black and Hispanic students at TJ.

I guess if you have some conspiracy view of the world you'd say the whites just go along with it because they know it will have the most impact on Asians and work out OK for them.

White students are projected to increase substantially under their proposals.

Supt. Is in a difficult position, and he does not have the wherewithal to manage it

He should just quit then.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Whites have a tendency to demonize any group that threatens their position with manufactured infractions.

Funny you say that because the entire lottery proposal is Scott Brabrand responding to pressure from Ricardy Anderson and Karen Keys Gamarra (black members of the School Board) and the Fairfax NAACP to do something about the low number of black and Hispanic students at TJ.

I guess if you have some conspiracy view of the world you'd say the whites just go along with it because they know it will have the most impact on Asians and work out OK for them.

White students are projected to increase substantially under their proposals.

But not as much in percentage terms as Black, Hispanic and low-income students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Whites have a tendency to demonize any group that threatens their position with manufactured infractions.

Funny you say that because the entire lottery proposal is Scott Brabrand responding to pressure from Ricardy Anderson and Karen Keys Gamarra (black members of the School Board) and the Fairfax NAACP to do something about the low number of black and Hispanic students at TJ.

I guess if you have some conspiracy view of the world you'd say the whites just go along with it because they know it will have the most impact on Asians and work out OK for them.

White students are projected to increase substantially under their proposals.

Supt. Is in a difficult position, and he does not have the wherewithal to manage it

He is in a political situation of his own choosing. He should have sat down with those special interest groups showed them all the data from low AAP participation to low TJ applications to lower qualification levels from those who have applied and told them simply and frankly those are the reasons there are low numbers of black hispanic kids at TJ period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Whites have a tendency to demonize any group that threatens their position with manufactured infractions.

Every school could use some TJ culture, a culture of collegiality, hard work and excellence. PPP probably never set foot in TJ and knows very little about TJ except the racial makeup. I wish the school board and the superintendent would at least recognize these kids' amazing accomplishments in spite of the bureaucrats' constant sabotage. The principal of TJ is not an advocate for her students either. TJ is great as it is all because of the wonderful teachers and students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Whites have a tendency to demonize any group that threatens their position with manufactured infractions.

Every school could use some TJ culture, a culture of collegiality, hard work and excellence. PPP probably never set foot in TJ and knows very little about TJ except the racial makeup. I wish the school board and the superintendent would at least recognize these kids' amazing accomplishments in spite of the bureaucrats' constant sabotage. The principal of TJ is not an advocate for her students either. TJ is great as it is all because of the wonderful teachers and students.

+1000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Whites have a tendency to demonize any group that threatens their position with manufactured infractions.

Every school could use some TJ culture, a culture of collegiality, hard work and excellence. PPP probably never set foot in TJ and knows very little about TJ except the racial makeup. I wish the school board and the superintendent would at least recognize these kids' amazing accomplishments in spite of the bureaucrats' constant sabotage. The principal of TJ is not an advocate for her students either. TJ is great as it is all because of the wonderful teachers and students.

The same can be said for many other schools, except those schools thrive despite not getting 1/10th the attention that TJ regularly commands.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Whites have a tendency to demonize any group that threatens their position with manufactured infractions.

Funny you say that because the entire lottery proposal is Scott Brabrand responding to pressure from Ricardy Anderson and Karen Keys Gamarra (black members of the School Board) and the Fairfax NAACP to do something about the low number of black and Hispanic students at TJ.

I guess if you have some conspiracy view of the world you'd say the whites just go along with it because they know it will have the most impact on Asians and work out OK for them.

White students are projected to increase substantially under their proposals.

Supt. Is in a difficult position, and he does not have the wherewithal to manage it

He is supposed to be a leader. Some proposals are not worth considering. Low attendance of TJ by URM is a symptom of something that cannot be fairly addressed by race balancing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Whites have a tendency to demonize any group that threatens their position with manufactured infractions.

Every school could use some TJ culture, a culture of collegiality, hard work and excellence. PPP probably never set foot in TJ and knows very little about TJ except the racial makeup. I wish the school board and the superintendent would at least recognize these kids' amazing accomplishments in spite of the bureaucrats' constant sabotage. The principal of TJ is not an advocate for her students either. TJ is great as it is all because of the wonderful teachers and students.

The same can be said for many other schools, except those schools thrive despite not getting 1/10th the attention that TJ regularly commands.

I'm not sure that TJ commands 10x the attention of say Langley, McLean, Marshall, Oakton, Chantilly, etc. By what measure are you saying this?

[Anonymous]

Supt. Is in a difficult position, and he does not have the wherewithal to manage it


He is in a political situation of his own choosing. He should have sat down with those special interest groups showed them all the data from low AAP participation to low TJ applications to lower qualification levels from those who have applied and told them simply and frankly those are the reasons there are low numbers of black hispanic kids at TJ period.

LMAO, we know how that would go.

Superintendent: “The data shows that your kids are unqualified for a TJ.”

Special Interest Groups: “You’re a racist, REEEEEEEEE!”

WaPo the next day: “Racist Superintendent forced to resign after claiming black and Hispanic kids were stupid.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Whites have a tendency to demonize any group that threatens their position with manufactured infractions.

Every school could use some TJ culture, a culture of collegiality, hard work and excellence. PPP probably never set foot in TJ and knows very little about TJ except the racial makeup. I wish the school board and the superintendent would at least recognize these kids' amazing accomplishments in spite of the bureaucrats' constant sabotage. The principal of TJ is not an advocate for her students either. TJ is great as it is all because of the wonderful teachers and students.

The same can be said for many other schools, except those schools thrive despite not getting 1/10th the attention that TJ regularly commands.

I'm not sure that TJ commands 10x the attention of say Langley, McLean, Marshall, Oakton, Chantilly, etc. By what measure are you saying this?

You're right. It's more like 50X the attention.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Whites have a tendency to demonize any group that threatens their position with manufactured infractions.

Every school could use some TJ culture, a culture of collegiality, hard work and excellence. PPP probably never set foot in TJ and knows very little about TJ except the racial makeup. I wish the school board and the superintendent would at least recognize these kids' amazing accomplishments in spite of the bureaucrats' constant sabotage. The principal of TJ is not an advocate for her students either. TJ is great as it is all because of the wonderful teachers and students.

The same can be said for many other schools, except those schools thrive despite not getting 1/10th the attention that TJ regularly commands.

I would say most of f the attention can be characterized as anti TJ anti Asian attacks so not sure how helpful the attention actually is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should still allow 20% of the students from each region. They can do it using the application process but each region in FCPS should receive 20% of the slots.

It’s not good enough for the School Board members who know some pyramids within a region have stronger students than others.

Something has to give. This is a lot better than a lottery.

But it all starts in elementary school - that is where the resources should be spent.

There is a fight for the really talented URMs by the time you get to high school - regional privates, boarding schools, etc. If they are talented and financially constrained, they can go to these schools for free. They are much better represented in those schools.

You all are ignoring the other elephant.

The culture of the school needs to be fixed. A change in admissions to a lottery would accomplish this. If not a lottery, then a different change will be needed.

You understand that language is code for anti Asian American racism, right? The culture of the school is fine or even better. You have no direct knowledge of the school’s culture yet freely speak about it.

This has to do with the test prep culture and cheating scandal, not ethnicity,

Nope, plenty of kids there didn’t prep to get in and most do not cheat. Cheating is actually lower than at other high schools. But you don’t want facts; you want to rely in stereotypes: Asian kids prep and cheat, TJ is majority Asian, therefore TJ’s culture is prepping and cheating. Simplistic, weak minded and wrong.