Lottery is Off the Table

[Anonymous]

Now they'll devise a plan designed to increase URM in a more targeted manner, while still maintaining high merit-based academic standards.

[Anonymous]

Logical minds prevail!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now they'll devise a plan designed to increase URM in a more targeted manner, while still maintaining high merit-based academic standards.

I agree with you but good luck with that

Long term it may be doable and I even support it. We need to do a better job of identifying poor and URM for AAP designation instead of having it full of above average kids from pushy white and asian families who know how to game the system via appeals etc.

In the short term though increasing URM and poorer representation will reduce the overall talent pool at the school making the top sections of base schools full of higher caliber students aka why would anyone want to go to TJ.

[Anonymous]

What great news to wake up to this morning! That plan was so egregiously wrong on so many levels. I feel hope that meritocracy is not dead in America.

[Anonymous]

Now they'll follow Stuy.

You all get what you ask for.

[Anonymous]

Please post a link for this. Any changes to admission process?

[Anonymous]

Is it off the table? I thought the board just asked the Superintendent to come back with a plan without lottery and a plan with lottery.

As flawed as their testing situation was, now that a test is removed from the process, who are we going to trust to evaluate the applicants aptitudes in an o justice way? Certainly not these unprepared people who couldn't answer a few basic questions about their proposal. They can give whatever aptitude scores they want to whomever they want. I want full transparency into the process, and how they will guarantee equity in evaluations. The words "holistic review" seem to be code here (in this case) for "we'll fudge where we can"

[Anonymous]

After watching the SB meeting, I got the same impression.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it off the table? I thought the board just asked the Superintendent to come back with a plan without lottery and a plan with lottery.

As flawed as their testing situation was, now that a test is removed from the process, who are we going to trust to evaluate the applicants aptitudes in an o justice way? Certainly not these unprepared people who couldn't answer a few basic questions about their proposal. They can give whatever aptitude scores they want to whomever they want. I want full transparency into the process, and how they will guarantee equity in evaluations. The words "holistic review" seem to be code here (in this case) for "we'll fudge where we can"

What is the timeline for coming up with 2 plans? Any idea?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it off the table? I thought the board just asked the Superintendent to come back with a plan without lottery and a plan with lottery.

As flawed as their testing situation was, now that a test is removed from the process, who are we going to trust to evaluate the applicants aptitudes in an o justice way? Certainly not these unprepared people who couldn't answer a few basic questions about their proposal. They can give whatever aptitude scores they want to whomever they want. I want full transparency into the process, and how they will guarantee equity in evaluations. The words "holistic review" seem to be code here (in this case) for "we'll fudge where we can"

Correct. The notion that a lottery is off the table is being spread by Asra Nomani in order to take credit for her advocacy. No one knows yet exactly what the SB will do although they clearly will be getting rid of the test and admission fee.

[Anonymous]

Common sense prevailed.

[Anonymous]

the only thing on the table is recommendations back to the VA Superintendent by the 12th

Nothing is going to be accomplished in the next several days

The mid term ask is to see the difference scenarios played out

Lottery, No lottery, pyramid selection based, middle school selection based

The scenario that is the most woke aka has the most URM and FARMS folks will be the one selected and recommended for implementation

[Anonymous]

They can skip the test this year and blame covid.

Hope they can use a holistic approach to get more URMs in.

I was very against the lottery. I am not against getting more URMs in. I hope they can capture more of them this year for AAP. Again since there is no cogat, they can use other methods of picking the students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They can skip the test this year and blame covid.

Hope they can use a holistic approach to get more URMs in.

I was very against the lottery. I am not against getting more URMs in. I hope they can capture more of them this year for AAP. Again since there is no cogat, they can use other methods of picking the students.

Suuure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now they'll devise a plan designed to increase URM in a more targeted manner, while still maintaining high merit-based academic standards.

These things can't exist currently and are in direct competition with each other.

I hope they can exist in the future by reforming AAP to be truly for the gifted instead of overwhelmed with well off whites and asians who are above average but aren't gifted in many cases.