Man dies after unprovoked attack by teens at Frederick fair

[Anonymous]

This is just so so sad. A man takes his daughter to a local fair and is randomly punched and dies?! How horrible is this?!
And who cares if they didn’t think this would be the result. We’re ok with teens going around knocking people out? So we are supposed to be prepared for that? What if the guy hauled off and punched them both in the face? Do they think no one might punch, stab, or accidentally kill them in return?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

Testosterone, lack of positive male role models (even if dad is present, he’s checked out or a poor role model), societal expectations of males (don’t show any vulnerability, “be a man”), pop culture representation of males (often violent, look at what movies are popular- many feature violent men), no guidance on how to handle emotions, no positive outlets, mistaken beliefs that masculinity depends on how aggressive one is.

Which is why men should support feminism and gender equality- it relieves them of the societal pressure to express masculinity in aggressive, violent ways, and results in more positive male role models.

You do understand that poorly socialized girls get into brawls, too, right? Is that what you mean by gender equality? I obviously don't know the parents of the boys or what their home life was like but I'm guessing that they didn't exactly grow up doing play dates at the park where they learned to take turns at the slide and I'm guessing that supervision and basic discipline were lax to non-nonexistent in their household. I would be shocked if this is the first time they got into trouble....nor is it the first time that excuses have been made for their terrible behavior.

No wonder they took their rage out on an involved father who actually cared enough to be with his kid at the fair. He was the symbol of everything they wanted but could never have - an involved parent who gave a sh*t about his kid.

[Anonymous]

I hope they both get charged and tried as adults and spend a VERY long time behind bars. There is no rehabilitation for them. If at 15 years old, they are capable of something like this, they're done. Might as well protect the rest of the society from this psychopaths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope they both get charged and tried as adults and spend a VERY long time behind bars. There is no rehabilitation for them. If at 15 years old, they are capable of something like this, they're done. Might as well protect the rest of the society from this psychopaths.

At that very least, protect the gene pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

Testosterone, lack of positive male role models (even if dad is present, he’s checked out or a poor role model), societal expectations of males (don’t show any vulnerability, “be a man”), pop culture representation of males (often violent, look at what movies are popular- many feature violent men), no guidance on how to handle emotions, no positive outlets, mistaken beliefs that masculinity depends on how aggressive one is.

Which is why men should support feminism and gender equality- it relieves them of the societal pressure to express masculinity in aggressive, violent ways, and results in more positive male role models.

You do understand that poorly socialized girls get into brawls, too, right? Is that what you mean by gender equality? I obviously don't know the parents of the boys or what their home life was like but I'm guessing that they didn't exactly grow up doing play dates at the park where they learned to take turns at the slide and I'm guessing that supervision and basic discipline were lax to non-nonexistent in their household. I would be shocked if this is the first time they got into trouble....nor is it the first time that excuses have been made for their terrible behavior.

No wonder they took their rage out on an involved father who actually cared enough to be with his kid at the fair. He was the symbol of everything they wanted but could never have - an involved parent who gave a sh*t about his kid.

That doesn't justify that they killed an innocent man.

[Anonymous]

Wasn't there also a big brawl with a bunch of teens at the fair?

[Anonymous]

That settles it... no fair for me anytime soon...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

Testosterone, lack of positive male role models (even if dad is present, he’s checked out or a poor role model), societal expectations of males (don’t show any vulnerability, “be a man”), pop culture representation of males (often violent, look at what movies are popular- many feature violent men), no guidance on how to handle emotions, no positive outlets, mistaken beliefs that masculinity depends on how aggressive one is.

Which is why men should support feminism and gender equality- it relieves them of the societal pressure to express masculinity in aggressive, violent ways, and results in more positive male role models.

You do understand that poorly socialized girls get into brawls, too, right? Is that what you mean by gender equality? I obviously don't know the parents of the boys or what their home life was like but I'm guessing that they didn't exactly grow up doing play dates at the park where they learned to take turns at the slide and I'm guessing that supervision and basic discipline were lax to non-nonexistent in their household. I would be shocked if this is the first time they got into trouble....nor is it the first time that excuses have been made for their terrible behavior.

No wonder they took their rage out on an involved father who actually cared enough to be with his kid at the fair. He was the symbol of everything they wanted but could never have - an involved parent who gave a sh*t about his kid.

That doesn't justify that they killed an innocent man.

Absolutely it does not. Did they know better? Yes.

I'm sure that their teachers have tried over the years with them. They've seen good examples, they just aren't interested in that.

[Anonymous]

I saw the video, it is very short, and just shows a handful of teen males surrounding the man (who is all by himself) in front of what looks like a fair ride and one just jumps forward and punches him, man immediately falls to the ground and stays there. And there sounds like cheering. It's pretty awful. So you cannot tell what was said or what happened before he was surrounded, and his daughter isn't standing next to him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw the video, it is very short, and just shows a handful of teen males surrounding the man (who is all by himself) in front of what looks like a fair ride and one just jumps forward and punches him, man immediately falls to the ground and stays there. And there sounds like cheering. It's pretty awful. So you cannot tell what was said or what happened before he was surrounded, and his daughter isn't standing next to him.

His daughter was probably on the ride looking down on that horror. My heart just breaks for that girl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

Testosterone, lack of positive male role models (even if dad is present, he’s checked out or a poor role model), societal expectations of males (don’t show any vulnerability, “be a man”), pop culture representation of males (often violent, look at what movies are popular- many feature violent men), no guidance on how to handle emotions, no positive outlets, mistaken beliefs that masculinity depends on how aggressive one is.

Which is why men should support feminism and gender equality- it relieves them of the societal pressure to express masculinity in aggressive, violent ways, and results in more positive male role models.

You do understand that poorly socialized girls get into brawls, too, right? Is that what you mean by gender equality? I obviously don't know the parents of the boys or what their home life was like but I'm guessing that they didn't exactly grow up doing play dates at the park where they learned to take turns at the slide and I'm guessing that supervision and basic discipline were lax to non-nonexistent in their household. I would be shocked if this is the first time they got into trouble....nor is it the first time that excuses have been made for their terrible behavior.

No wonder they took their rage out on an involved father who actually cared enough to be with his kid at the fair. He was the symbol of everything they wanted but could never have - an involved parent who gave a sh*t about his kid.

That doesn't justify that they killed an innocent man.

Absolutely it does not. Did they know better? Yes.

I'm sure that their teachers have tried over the years with them. They've seen good examples, they just aren't interested in that.

I’ve said this many times before - how do you change a culture that finds this type of behavior acceptable? That’s what we’re up against. I agree with PP - they’ve probably seen good examples but aren’t interested in what Donna Do-good has to say - that’s not respected in their social circles so why try to change?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

Testosterone, lack of positive male role models (even if dad is present, he’s checked out or a poor role model), societal expectations of males (don’t show any vulnerability, “be a man”), pop culture representation of males (often violent, look at what movies are popular- many feature violent men), no guidance on how to handle emotions, no positive outlets, mistaken beliefs that masculinity depends on how aggressive one is.

Which is why men should support feminism and gender equality- it relieves them of the societal pressure to express masculinity in aggressive, violent ways, and results in more positive male role models.

You do understand that poorly socialized girls get into brawls, too, right? Is that what you mean by gender equality? I obviously don't know the parents of the boys or what their home life was like but I'm guessing that they didn't exactly grow up doing play dates at the park where they learned to take turns at the slide and I'm guessing that supervision and basic discipline were lax to non-nonexistent in their household. I would be shocked if this is the first time they got into trouble....nor is it the first time that excuses have been made for their terrible behavior.

No wonder they took their rage out on an involved father who actually cared enough to be with his kid at the fair. He was the symbol of everything they wanted but could never have - an involved parent who gave a sh*t about his kid.

This whole statement is offensive to me as a male who had zero play dates, had minimal supervision growing up, father was not at home and got into trouble on occasion. Never in a million years would I strike an innocent man or think it was cool or funny if another person did it.

[Anonymous]

Check their phones. If the were playing the “Knockout Game” then odds are one threw the punch while the other was filming it to post on social media.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Check their phones. If the were playing the “Knockout Game” then odds are one threw the punch while the other was filming it to post on social media.

yes it's already been established that a female friend of theirs filmed it, laughed, and said "Good one!" after the punch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Check their phones. If the were playing the “Knockout Game” then odds are one threw the punch while the other was filming it to post on social media.

yes it's already been established that a female friend of theirs filmed it, laughed, and said "Good one!" after the punch.

Gotta love social media.
Spawning a whole generation of assholes, idiots, pugilists, porn stars, sickos, and wackos for the world to deal with.