Man dies after unprovoked attack by teens at Frederick fair

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Anonymous wrote:To me the question is -- is death an expected result of 'knocking someone out'?

Not intended, but absolutely one possible result. That's what the manslaughter charge is for. Same thing as if you were drag racing and crashed your car and killed someone. Not the expected result, but certainly one you are responsible for criminally.

How is this manslaughter? The kid fully intended to punch that unsuspecting guy's lights out and that is exactly what happened and that is exactly what killed him. How is that not murder?

NP. Because he was operating with reckless disregard for others. It is not likely that punching a person once would result in death. Now if the person is 100 years old, maybe murder would be a possible charge.

Geez, the stupidity! People die from being punched more frequently than you think. Please just stop with the idiocy!

No they don't, dumb dumb. Not a single UFC fighter has died over the last 25 years.[/https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mmamania.com/platform/amp/2019/7/23/20707202/maxim-dadashev-dead-at-28-following-tko-loss-subriel-matias-mma

Not UFC, but...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

But you do understand why women drown their children or drive them strapped into a car into a lake. Because you're a woman.

Pregnancy hormones can be severe and can royally F with a woman's head.

What major life event do men experience, that's comparable? That they... just exist?

Yeah, men are extremely fragile. Especially wealthy, white men. That’s why they shouldn’t face professional or legal consequences for things like sexually assaulting classmates, coworkers, and clients.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in Frederick and this news story is just really disturbing. A man was visiting the fair, and two teen boys assaulted him. Eyewitness reports say it was unprovoked. He died the next day. I just don’t understand what is happening in our world.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wjla.com/amp/news/local/police-man-dead-after-being-attacked-by-teens-at-great-frederick-fair

Weird reporting at the end. The quote that the reporter eavesdropped through the closed apartment door seems to indicate that the attack was actually a punch to defend a sibling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

Testosterone, lack of positive male role models (even if dad is present, he’s checked out or a poor role model), societal expectations of males (don’t show any vulnerability, “be a man”), pop culture representation of males (often violent, look at what movies are popular- many feature violent men), no guidance on how to handle emotions, no positive outlets, mistaken beliefs that masculinity depends on how aggressive one is.

Which is why men should support feminism and gender equality- it relieves them of the societal pressure to express masculinity in aggressive, violent ways, and results in more positive male role models.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To me the question is -- is death an expected result of 'knocking someone out'?

Not intended, but absolutely one possible result. That's what the manslaughter charge is for. Same thing as if you were drag racing and crashed your car and killed someone. Not the expected result, but certainly one you are responsible for criminally.

How is this manslaughter? The kid fully intended to punch that unsuspecting guy's lights out and that is exactly what happened and that is exactly what killed him. How is that not murder?

NP. Because he was operating with reckless disregard for others. It is not likely that punching a person once would result in death. Now if the person is 100 years old, maybe murder would be a possible charge.

Geez, the stupidity! People die from being punched more frequently than you think. Please just stop with the idiocy!

No they don't, dumb dumb. Not a single UFC fighter has died over the last 25 years.[/https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mmamania.com/platform/amp/2019/7/23/20707202/maxim-dadashev-dead-at-28-following-tko-loss-subriel-matias-mma

Not UFC, but...

UFC fights are in a ring. What is most dangerous in this kind of street fight is hitting your head on a hard surface without being able to protect yourself because you are unconscious. Death is an entirely foreseeable consequence of this kind of unprovoked assault.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To me the question is -- is death an expected result of 'knocking someone out'?

Not intended, but absolutely one possible result. That's what the manslaughter charge is for. Same thing as if you were drag racing and crashed your car and killed someone. Not the expected result, but certainly one you are responsible for criminally.

How is this manslaughter? The kid fully intended to punch that unsuspecting guy's lights out and that is exactly what happened and that is exactly what killed him. How is that not murder?

NP. Because he was operating with reckless disregard for others. It is not likely that punching a person once would result in death. Now if the person is 100 years old, maybe murder would be a possible charge.

Geez, the stupidity! People die from being punched more frequently than you think. Please just stop with the idiocy!

No they don't, dumb dumb. Not a single UFC fighter has died over the last 25 years.[/https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mmamania.com/platform/amp/2019/7/23/20707202/maxim-dadashev-dead-at-28-following-tko-loss-subriel-matias-mma

Not UFC, but...

UFC fights are in a ring. What is most dangerous in this kind of street fight is hitting your head on a hard surface without being able to protect yourself because you are unconscious. Death is an entirely foreseeable consequence of this kind of unprovoked assault.

Not really, its rare.

[Anonymous]

It’s rare and it’s still murder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Frederick and this news story is just really disturbing. A man was visiting the fair, and two teen boys assaulted him. Eyewitness reports say it was unprovoked. He died the next day. I just don’t understand what is happening in our world.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wjla.com/amp/news/local/police-man-dead-after-being-attacked-by-teens-at-great-frederick-fair

Weird reporting at the end. The quote that the reporter eavesdropped through the closed apartment door seems to indicate that the attack was actually a punch to defend a sibling.

“Would seem to indicate?” Really? Because some idiot neighbor who probably wasn’t even there said so?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s rare and it’s still murder.

You can say it until your fat head explodes, but murder conviction is highly unlikely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s rare and it’s still murder.

You can say it until your fat head explodes, but murder conviction is highly unlikely.

That is probably true, I would imagine they will take a plea of some sort if the facts are as described in the news article. It’s pretty clearly amenable to charging as second-degree murder in MD, as they intentionally tried to inflict great bodily harm and he died as a result. Prearranging the video would certainly give one an argument on premeditation, but that would be an aggressive charge. I’m not sure why you are calling PP names. This was murder in my estimation as well, but I agree these children will probably get off with manslaughter. A light outcome on these facts IMO but we live in a fallen world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

But you do understand why women drown their children or drive them strapped into a car into a lake. Because you're a woman.

Please do some research into the # of homicides committed by women and men and report back. Thanks love.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

But you do understand why women drown their children or drive them strapped into a car into a lake. Because you're a woman.

Pregnancy hormones can be severe and can royally F with a woman's head.

What major life event do men experience, that's comparable? That they... just exist?

Yeah, men are extremely fragile. Especially wealthy, white men. That’s why they shouldn’t face professional or legal consequences for things like sexually assaulting classmates, coworkers, and clients.

Whatever you say, bigot.

Most people would probably say that hormones are a big factor when it comes to violence and risk taking behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a video - it looks like there was some kind of confrontation. The teens knocked him and he quickly feel to the ground, probably hit his head very hard. It was short, not a prolonged attack. But awful, nevertheless.

For the life of me, I do not understand what compels people with the Y chromosome to do this sort of thing. Yes of course "not all men" but violence (random or otherwise) is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon. And it's a problem.

But you do understand why women drown their children or drive them strapped into a car into a lake. Because you're a woman.

Please do some research into the # of homicides committed by women and men and report back. Thanks love.

Read on, NP. That PP understands why women kill people but doesn't understand when men do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Frederick and this news story is just really disturbing. A man was visiting the fair, and two teen boys assaulted him. Eyewitness reports say it was unprovoked. He died the next day. I just don’t understand what is happening in our world.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wjla.com/amp/news/local/police-man-dead-after-being-attacked-by-teens-at-great-frederick-fair

Weird reporting at the end. The quote that the reporter eavesdropped through the closed apartment door seems to indicate that the attack was actually a punch to defend a sibling.

Sounds legit. I bet the victim was killed by hospital negligence since we are going to wildly speculate. Everyone that goes to a hospital dies. That's no coincidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To me the question is -- is death an expected result of 'knocking someone out'?

Not intended, but absolutely one possible result. That's what the manslaughter charge is for. Same thing as if you were drag racing and crashed your car and killed someone. Not the expected result, but certainly one you are responsible for criminally.

How is this manslaughter? The kid fully intended to punch that unsuspecting guy's lights out and that is exactly what happened and that is exactly what killed him. How is that not murder?

NP. Because he was operating with reckless disregard for others. It is not likely that punching a person once would result in death. Now if the person is 100 years old, maybe murder would be a possible charge.

Geez, the stupidity! People die from being punched more frequently than you think. Please just stop with the idiocy!

No they don't, dumb dumb. Not a single UFC fighter has died over the last 25 years.

And they don't wear headgear either. Oh wait, I guess they do. Why? Is being punched in the head so harmless you don't need protection?