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Anonymous
| I hate to burst everyone’s sanctimonious bubbles... I have seen more kids with behavior issues who are not in the special needs program at my kid’s former elementary school than kids with special needs. Let’s call a spade a spade. |
Anonymous
It's under the umbrella of equity/equitable practices. There's the Harvard Implicit Bias test that ran its course, too. The goal is to make whites aware of their bias. But those of us of who have taught in majority minority schools, with high FARMs/high ESOL just laugh at the training. We don't see many people scrambling to fill our spots, and when there is an opening, the new person doesn't last. So maybe we need to look at this situation through the eyes of teachers instead of BLAMING teachers. |
Anonymous
No, no, no. This student should not have been on the team at all. Parent is to be blamed for procreating but the school has to be blamed too for not protecting other students. On the other hand, the DHS sports culture was that of assh0lery in more ways than one. The DHS team was aggressive and violent even when playing against other schools. I am from a school where some of the sports parents complained to our own coach about the abusive behavior of the DHS team and asked him to talk to DHS coach. I do not know what happened but now the parents of athletes from our school have been told to attend the games of their own children and record every minute on their smartphones. |
Anonymous
Sorry, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. What is needed is CCTV in every classroom and let the parents and teachers and students determine what is fair based on what they see on the video. The irony is that every single black or hispanic who gets killed, or shot down or bullied is an extremely bright student who was doing every thing right and could have done a lot for the country, their community and for their family. The rapists and criminals who get to live are the worst kind of black and hispanic student who will get a slap on the wrist. In a fair world, the dregs of society from all races would destroy each other instead of the best and brightest. Can the criminals and the violent racists just war on each other? |
Anonymous
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How can this be? Student behavior problems in MCPS?
I thought the principal calls the police every time there is a behavior problem. Even if on the weekend! |
Anonymous
But these are the kids who are exhibiting the majority of the disrespect and insubordination. I think that’s the crux of the issue. They’re not facing consequences because of the color of their skin, but because of the choices they make. What are schools with predominantly black/brown populations supposed to do? I think that’s what OP is saying implicitly. If you are in a focus or title 1 school then that’s the majority of your population and if black/brown students are not allowed to face consequences then no one is facing consequences. Then there’s the byproduct of brown/black kids not facing consequences for their choices but white/Asians facing consequences for the same behavior because there’s no quota for white/Asian the way there is for black/brown. It’s a flawed system all around. |
Anonymous
It starts from a young age. We live in an area close to Damascus and play teams from DSA in youth sports. A few teams are good sports and the players and coaches play by the rules but a few teams (players, coaches and parents) are downright rude and don’t display good sportsmanship. I’m always glad my kid isn’t on their team. |
Anonymous
| What is the suspension or discipline “quota” posters are referring to? |
Anonymous
Schools are only allowed to suspend a certain number of brown/black students per year, and avoid suspension entirely unless it’s something like bringing a weapon to school or a clear cut unprovoked severe physical assault on another student. No one but admin knows exactly what that number is, but there is strong pressure to not give strong consequences to black/brown students. |
Anonymous
I know, and many other people do too, that when it comes to children's behavior in school, whether or not it's considered "disrespect and insubordination" is affected by the child's race/ethnicity. A shorter way of saying it is: my blond, blue-eyed kid could get away with behavior a black or Latino kid likely couldn't. |
Anonymous
| No wonder everyone educated who is an URM goes to private school. Who needs these peer influences or worse, to get caught up in it! |
Anonymous
That is what MPCS needs to address. They need to figure that out because as it is the rest of the students are being victimized by the current system. |
Anonymous
Perhaps NAACP started out this way because of history, but IMO, today, they include violent kids in regards to less suspension, or at least that's how MCPS is treating these violent kids. I do think, however, there are some who are quick to blame bad parenting whenever a black/brown kid acts up, but whenever a white/asian child does then it's the old.. "must be SN" excuse. It's a bit like when a brown person commits a terrorist act, it's "they are evil", but when a white person does then it's "mental illness". Either way, students who are consistently and constantly disruptive need to be removed from class. Why should 99% of the class suffer because of the bad behavior of the *one* child? |
Anonymous
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Right now there are tons of studies the seem to support a narrative that is usually referred to as a "schools to prison pipeline" because they show children that have been suspended have a much higher likelihood of both dropping out of school and ending up in prison.
As other folks have stated, this has led to huge nationwide pressure (so don't worry MCPS, you're not alone) to reduce suspensions at all costs. I doubt there will be any changes to this policy for a number of years. It will be very interesting after these policies have been in place long enough for the students who attended school under these policies reach their late 20s early 30s. If the theory is correct, there should be some significant decline in the number of people sent to prison, because (hooray!) we "eliminated" the "schools to prison pipeline." But what if that decline doesn't happen? What if the act of getting suspended is not the causation, and instead simply a correlation? What if all that happens is that the kids that engaged in bad behavior didn't get suspended while in school, but once they are adults out in society, they continue their previous pattern of bad behavior and now that behavior leads to prison? If that ends up being the case, we will have lived through decades of this failed policy before schools are allowed to swing the pendulum back. |
Anonymous
The behaviors we are referring to are not your run of the mill too much talking, hard time staying in line, etc. If your blond, blue-eyed kid is physically attacking others, spitting at teachers, saying “I’ll effing kill you” to another student etc then your blond, blue-eyed kid would likely be suspended because these no pressure to not suspend white kids. In fact, it makes the suspension rate at a school seem more equitable to central office. Your blond, blue-eyed kid would not get away with the behavior. But by and large it’s not the blond, blue-eyed kids who are doing these things (not always, but usually). In my school (focus) we have very few blond, blue-eyes kids but we do have a lot of brown/black kids who are the ones with these behavior issues. But the brown/black kids are not facing consequences for doing these things because they’re brown/black and they’re basically untouchable. Everyone’s “hands are tied” when it comes to these students. That’s what we’re referring to here. —teacher |