demoralized in MCPS

[Anonymous]

No way non tenured teachers get any protections. Your overlords say I flate the grades and you do it. The school needs to look good at all costs. That is why teachers must resign every couple years so they can pass the trash down the line and everyone wins.

[Anonymous]

It's fun to see upper management and the union in public schools squirm over people pointing out the very many misdeeds that have accumulated throughout the years as the lack of teachers crisis is at the forefront of the news.

Now that they have made the profession so extremely dangerous and unbearable let's see how they deal. I'd recommend tossing in a few investigations for grade inflation and other wrong doings so we can clean house and let everything hot the fan all at once. We need to tear down the current model of education completely and start a new. Also we need to hold everyone who has contributed to widespread corruption accountable. When I started teaching and saw the goals to put young students in a lifetime of debt slavery through grade inflation, lies about the importance of college, and seeing great teachers get their hands tied and put in threatening situations every single day and treated poorly by the very people who are charged to protect and manage the properly; I realized there is a reason teachers are saying no more will I take part in your crimes

[Anonymous]

I’m personally glad this thread was revived. I went down quite the rabbit hole reading back through it...

I’m honestly shocked teachers pay dues to the union considering some of the complaints lodged at them. It’s not a requirement legally, right, so why do people do it? At least from my understanding, you are entitled to the same employment terms as non dues employees, the union just doesn’t rep you, but based on the thread, their record doesn’t seem to be all that great.

[Anonymous]

I keep paying my dues for liability reasons. I want protection with lawyers at my side. You never know what a kid might due these days. Anything that happens in the classroom is ultimately the responsibility of the teacher of record.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m personally glad this thread was revived. I went down quite the rabbit hole reading back through it...

I’m honestly shocked teachers pay dues to the union considering some of the complaints lodged at them. It’s not a requirement legally, right, so why do people do it? At least from my understanding, you are entitled to the same employment terms as non dues employees, the union just doesn’t rep you, but based on the thread, their record doesn’t seem to be all that great.

If you pay you're able to qualify for and apply to use the sick leave donation banks from other members if your family member is sick and you need to stay home for an extended time.
Non members don't have access to that.

[Anonymous]

LOL zombie thread is back from the dead!

[Anonymous]

It's ironic that they can't find teachers to teach anymore after they took advantage then fired teachers who devoted everything for the students benefit. Good luck as management and unions have made the profession utterly unsustainable, dangerous, and forced teachers to do unethical things then fall on their swords. Mcps have fun cleaning up and covering the old lies up with new ones. Hahaha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's ironic that they can't find teachers to teach anymore after they took advantage then fired teachers who devoted everything for the students benefit. Good luck as management and unions have made the profession utterly unsustainable, dangerous, and forced teachers to do unethical things then fall on their swords. Mcps have fun cleaning up and covering the old lies up with new ones. Hahaha

Grudge match back from the dead!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's ironic that they can't find teachers to teach anymore after they took advantage then fired teachers who devoted everything for the students benefit. Good luck as management and unions have made the profession utterly unsustainable, dangerous, and forced teachers to do unethical things then fall on their swords. Mcps have fun cleaning up and covering the old lies up with new ones. Hahaha

Grudge match back from the dead!

The pandemic has taken so many from us, that it’s nice to see she survived. Maybe resentment has hardened her immune system?

[Anonymous]

It's people like you that make teachers feel defeated as society has no respect for us and the workload rehiggires added stress way above our contract hours, meanwhile- we will be fo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So why exactly can’t schools suspend or expel violent and dangerous students?

It is against the law to expel ( in the true sense of the word. Get out and don’t come back) any student 16 and under. You hear that (expel) all the time from people who don’t know what they are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sorry this is happening. Can the teacher's union do anything?

I volunteer at our elementary and have only rarely seen issues like the one you mention (child with special needs pushing and hurting other kids), and haven't heard of any physical incidents at our middle school, but high school? Perhaps, I don't have kids there yet.

Your advice on documentation and escalating up the chain of command is duly noted. Thank you for taking the time to share and explain!

Classy. I volunteer at our elementary school a lot and by and large the kids having physical fights and throwing things and being disrespectful are the ones who do not have special needs but have parents who think their children are entitled to do whatever they want. The principal calls their parents and they are the ones who deny anything is wrong. The kids with special needs have support and parents who are involved and they are not disruptive in the least.

You should stop volunteering if you're going to spread such ill informed rumors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why exactly can’t schools suspend or expel violent and dangerous students?

It is against the law to expel ( in the true sense of the word. Get out and don’t come back) any student 16 and under. You hear that (expel) all the time from people who don’t know what they are talking about.

Unfortunately, in the past six years, I have taught three students who were expelled. There is a long process that involves a hearing and the school can only recommend for expulsion. The final decision comes from higher up. In all three cases, the student brought a weapon to school. I don’t know where they ended up, but they were expelled from MCPS and all three were under 16.

[Anonymous]

They just move them to another high school or to Blair Ewing Center. If there is a judge involved they could also be up in juvenile detention. These are not jails in the traditional sense, they have a lot of mentoring, emotional services, and kids often have the very 1st stability in their lives. I have seen kids get turned around after this.

Honestly, I think school systems are making a big mistake by only being concerned with the disparities in numbers between different groups. What now happens is that students are not getting the consequences, structure, and support they need because of a students' race or learning issues.

[Anonymous]

It shouldn't be a fight or a grudge match. It is simply teachers now teaching us why education in America is making is ruining instead of enhancing lives and the critique of how teachers need to be hired trusted and supported to teach instead of being hacked down to nothing and discarded. Students need rigor and discipline and not failure coddling and teacher bashing if teachers decide to do a good job instead of placating to principals to make numbers look artificially good.