What's with the constant put down here of hardworking kids as "Striver" kids"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are strivers lauded in sports but shamed in academics?

They are the same. Both are often an unsatisfying road to nowhere.

Haha no way.

Strivers in sports are praised to no end.

Well, mostly they are called try hards and if you think they are lauded, you still don't know what stirver means.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what striver means?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Racism. Feeling threatened by non-legacy Asian American kids who get better grades, higher test scores, and admission slots.

Striver = racist, classist dog whistle. And not just anti-Asian.

It has the scolding tone of "they need to stay in their place."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ pretty sure there are white strivers and those using that term would put them down too.

It's used against working class, middle class, and poor white kids. Only UMC and UC kids aren't strivers (according to the people who wield that word).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Racism. Feeling threatened by non-legacy Asian American kids who get better grades, higher test scores, and admission slots.

Striver = racist, classist dog whistle. And not just anti-Asian.

It has the scolding tone of "they need to stay in their place."

No. You still don't know what is means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ pretty sure there are white strivers and those using that term would put them down too.

It's used against working class, middle class, and poor white kids. Only UMC and UC kids aren't strivers (according to the people who wield that word).

Most strivers are UMC and UC.

Working, middle class and poor white kids can't be strivers because they don't have the means to try to game the system.

[Anonymous]

When I think of people I would have considered strivers in school, the people who come to mind aren’t Asian. But I realize this may differ for others and there certainly are race-based stereotypes.

Most fundamentally, strivers are uncool. If I’m asked to unpack why, I would posit that it’s because they often are seeking out prestige or other narrow or short-term goals without a broader consideration of what makes them happy. There’s also an element of disingenuousness to it; strivers often feign interest or enthusiasm in something to achieve their goals. For those who have been to law school, strivers are like gunners. I’m largely with people who are honest about their goals being wealth or prestige (although I would question the wisdom and ethics of these goals taken to an extreme), but strivers usually aren’t honest about these goals or pursue them in a thoughtless, inconsiderate manner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I think of people I would have considered strivers in school, the people who come to mind aren’t Asian. But I realize this may differ for others and there certainly are race-based stereotypes.

Most fundamentally, strivers are uncool. If I’m asked to unpack why, I would posit that it’s because they often are seeking out prestige or other narrow or short-term goals without a broader consideration of what makes them happy. There’s also an element of disingenuousness to it; strivers often feign interest or enthusiasm in something to achieve their goals. For those who have been to law school, strivers are like gunners. I’m largely with people who are honest about their goals being wealth or prestige (although I would question the wisdom and ethics of these goals taken to an extreme), but strivers usually aren’t honest about these goals or pursue them in a thoughtless, inconsiderate manner.

Good take on the idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are strivers lauded in sports but shamed in academics?

They are the same. Both are often an unsatisfying road to nowhere.

Such a Hall of Fame DCUM post. So true!

Your striver kid will always be an annoying neurotic social climbing obsessed pest & your striver athlete will burn out and turn to partying and becoming a mere average student once they're out from under your thumb and realize they don't have to get up at 6am to train anymore. And it's so rare they'll be an athlete at a top 10 university, most of these sports crazies end up at mediocre directionals or private colleges in the middle on nowhere that only exist to let striver athlete parents to funnel their sporty kids to. Enjoy the lifelong ugly cantaloupe ankles and busted feet all the training netted you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I think of people I would have considered strivers in school, the people who come to mind aren’t Asian. But I realize this may differ for others and there certainly are race-based stereotypes.

Most fundamentally, strivers are uncool. If I’m asked to unpack why, I would posit that it’s because they often are seeking out prestige or other narrow or short-term goals without a broader consideration of what makes them happy. There’s also an element of disingenuousness to it; strivers often feign interest or enthusiasm in something to achieve their goals. For those who have been to law school, strivers are like gunners. I’m largely with people who are honest about their goals being wealth or prestige (although I would question the wisdom and ethics of these goals taken to an extreme), but strivers usually aren’t honest about these goals or pursue them in a thoughtless, inconsiderate manner.

They also feign friendship to increase their own status and achieve their goals. They're soulless users. That is why everyone hates your kid, because your kid is a shameless elbowy deceitful narcissist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I think of people I would have considered strivers in school, the people who come to mind aren’t Asian. But I realize this may differ for others and there certainly are race-based stereotypes.

Most fundamentally, strivers are uncool. If I’m asked to unpack why, I would posit that it’s because they often are seeking out prestige or other narrow or short-term goals without a broader consideration of what makes them happy. There’s also an element of disingenuousness to it; strivers often feign interest or enthusiasm in something to achieve their goals. For those who have been to law school, strivers are like gunners. I’m largely with people who are honest about their goals being wealth or prestige (although I would question the wisdom and ethics of these goals taken to an extreme), but strivers usually aren’t honest about these goals or pursue them in a thoughtless, inconsiderate manner.

They also feign friendship to increase their own status and achieve their goals. They're soulless users. That is why everyone hates your kid, because your kid is a shameless elbowy deceitful narcissist.

Wow - how much did you get dumped on in high school? It clearly scarred you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Racism. Feeling threatened by non-legacy Asian American kids who get better grades, higher test scores, and admission slots.

Striver = racist, classist dog whistle. And not just anti-Asian.

It has the scolding tone of "they need to stay in their place."

Victimhood merchants who perpetually hear dog whistles are the dogs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I think of people I would have considered strivers in school, the people who come to mind aren’t Asian. But I realize this may differ for others and there certainly are race-based stereotypes.

Most fundamentally, strivers are uncool. If I’m asked to unpack why, I would posit that it’s because they often are seeking out prestige or other narrow or short-term goals without a broader consideration of what makes them happy. There’s also an element of disingenuousness to it; strivers often feign interest or enthusiasm in something to achieve their goals. For those who have been to law school, strivers are like gunners. I’m largely with people who are honest about their goals being wealth or prestige (although I would question the wisdom and ethics of these goals taken to an extreme), but strivers usually aren’t honest about these goals or pursue them in a thoughtless, inconsiderate manner.

They also feign friendship to increase their own status and achieve their goals. They're soulless users. That is why everyone hates your kid, because your kid is a shameless elbowy deceitful narcissist.

Wow - how much did you get dumped on in high school? It clearly scarred you.

[Anonymous]

I don't get the confusion here. Tracy Flick is fictional and a sociopath, but that's a striver. Strivers usually work hard (whether intending to or not) but most hardworkers are not strivers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ pretty sure there are white strivers and those using that term would put them down too.

It's used against working class, middle class, and poor white kids. Only UMC and UC kids aren't strivers (according to the people who wield that word).

Most strivers are UMC and UC.

Working, middle class and poor white kids can't be strivers because they don't have the means to try to game the system.

Then why is the word often used against working class, middle class and poor Asian kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Racism. Feeling threatened by non-legacy Asian American kids who get better grades, higher test scores, and admission slots.

Striver = racist, classist dog whistle. And not just anti-Asian.

It has the scolding tone of "they need to stay in their place."

Victimhood merchants who perpetually hear dog whistles are the dogs.

Keep hoarding your privilege.