Security guard injured during brawl at Clarksburg High School

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Clarksburg had some serious white flight in the last 10 years. It is an issue. Maybe not for you, but for others that overpaid up there, it sure was. You can’t put country original hicks and wanna be “Potomac living” young white families in with all kinds of random diversity. Real estate turn over has been huge. The promises of fixed traffic and great schools were a bust.

How could Clarksburg have some serious white flight in the last 10 years when most of the residents of Clarksburg only moved to Clarksburg within the last 10-15 years?

Plus, as another PP says, even if it did, so what? There have been plenty of people of "random diversity" (whatever that means) moving in. If that's something you don't like, then don't move to Clarksburg.

Only people I know who have moved out of Clarksburg are those who needed to move out of state due to job relocation. Some were white. Some not. I don't know anyone who left due to the schools.

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There is only one thing to do and that is to remove such students from the school. If that does not work, why not make parents accompany such students to their classroom and sit with them through every period? If the parents are forced to do that and then they have to miss their work, they will become more strict with their children and not accept bad behavior.

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This. Clarksburg pulls from Rocky Hill MS in Clarksburg, Hallie Wells MS (part of it) in Clarksburg and Neelesville MS in Germantown. Rocky Hill MS and Hallie Wells MS have very similar demographics and are highly rated schools . Neelesville- not so much. I know this is not going to sound good but I think the Neelesville kids are the source of most of the problems.

There were fights at Rocky Hill MS, when my kid was there. Probably there still are. And there are probably also fights at Hallie Wells MS - similar demographics and highly-rated schools notwithstanding. No need to blame it on the small fraction of students at Clarksburg HS who went to Neelsville MS.

Does this mean that Rocky Hill/Hallie Wells/Clarksburg are bad schools? No, it means that fights are a thing that typically happens at middle schools and high schools in the US. Make sure your kids know that you expect them to remove themselves from the scene when there's a fight.

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Solution: Just transfer the kids to Damascus and let them play football.

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Anonymous wrote:Once upon a time about 15 years ago, we were looking into a plot of land in Clarksburg. Best decision my husband ever made when he said no way. Not only for traffic, but poor planning and cookie cutter houses on tiny lots. [b]We had no idea it was going to be white minority though. Looks like Montgomery Village up there. [/b]My friend sold her house in 5 years at a loss.

Yes, it probably is the best decision you ever made when you decided that Clarksburg would not be a good place for you.

Duh- I'm surprised you got to the point of even looking for land in Clarksburg. Mont County is very diverse. Those of us who live here (including white people like me who live in Clarksburg) like that though. By the way, you are completely incorrect in comparing it to Montgomery Village. THe demographics between these 2 areas are different.

What are the demographic differences between the two areas?

Here you go:
Montgomery Village:
Hispanic residents (31.5%),
White residents (31.4%),
Black residents (21.5%),
Asian residents (11%),
Median household income: $76,105

Clarksburg:
Asian residents (33.5%),
White residents (31.4%),
Black residents (18.5%),
Hispanic residents (12.7%),
median household income: $135,274

Clarksburg High School is

19% Asian
29% Black
29% Hispanic
19% White

27% FARMS

Looks very similar to Gaithersburg and Magruder High schools to me.

Clarksburg HS draws from neighborhoods in Germantown. Daly and Fox Chapel go to CHS and those are two tough schools. I would bet the majority of issues stem from kids who live in those neighborhoods. Not all, but most.

I live in a very nice neighborhood in Germantown, close to these two schools. Most of the students in our neighborhood either have gone to private schools or MCPS magnet schools. Not because the ESs, but because Neelsville MS, in spite of having great teachers and some very good students, have a larger than normal URM and FARMS population. The disruptiveness of students, inability of school to discipline them, has disheartened many families and forced them to move. This school needs to see a boundary change or get assimilated into other schools, so that it gets a chance.

I know the demographics in Clarksburg and all I can say is that since so many Asian-Americans (both Indians and Chinese) are buying in C'burg, the school will continue to do well. Some disruptive students do not make or break a school. The high achieving kids will continue to do well and be well represented in all kinds of high achievement indicators.

White flight can happen for a number of reason, but the truth is that the biggest concern should be Asian-American flight. White flight stems also from some inherent bias and racism. Asian flight is directly linked to school performance and safety in school. Asians don't give a damn about who they go to school with, what color, what race, what SES etc - as long as the school is safe, the students are not disruptive in classrooms, and students are performing well and are competitive in academics, Asians don't have a problem with the schools or the neighborhoods. Safety and Academic Excellence. Clarksburg has enough high performing students with educated and involved parents in every classroom, I don't see why anyone would feel the need to flee CHS. However, I do wish that these students are removed from school and send to an alternate school.

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Anonymous wrote:Once upon a time about 15 years ago, we were looking into a plot of land in Clarksburg. Best decision my husband ever made when he said no way. Not only for traffic, but poor planning and cookie cutter houses on tiny lots. [b]We had no idea it was going to be white minority though. Looks like Montgomery Village up there. [/b]My friend sold her house in 5 years at a loss.

Yes, it probably is the best decision you ever made when you decided that Clarksburg would not be a good place for you.

Duh- I'm surprised you got to the point of even looking for land in Clarksburg. Mont County is very diverse. Those of us who live here (including white people like me who live in Clarksburg) like that though. By the way, you are completely incorrect in comparing it to Montgomery Village. THe demographics between these 2 areas are different.

What are the demographic differences between the two areas?

East and South Asians are not immune to racial prejudice. I teach classes that are mostly white and Asian. The Asian parents seem most interested in and relieved by my credentials, but until I share those, they often assume I’m less competent because I’m AA. In the past, Asian parents were first to request transfers in the first week when there was a white teacher as an alternative, but this year, two core classes are only taught by AA teachers. The requests plummeted to a single one and that is only in a class where there is a white teacher.

Here you go:
Montgomery Village:
Hispanic residents (31.5%),
White residents (31.4%),
Black residents (21.5%),
Asian residents (11%),
Median household income: $76,105

Clarksburg:
Asian residents (33.5%),
White residents (31.4%),
Black residents (18.5%),
Hispanic residents (12.7%),
median household income: $135,274

Clarksburg High School is

19% Asian
29% Black
29% Hispanic
19% White

27% FARMS

Looks very similar to Gaithersburg and Magruder High schools to me.

Clarksburg HS draws from neighborhoods in Germantown. Daly and Fox Chapel go to CHS and those are two tough schools. I would bet the majority of issues stem from kids who live in those neighborhoods. Not all, but most.

I live in a very nice neighborhood in Germantown, close to these two schools. Most of the students in our neighborhood either have gone to private schools or MCPS magnet schools. Not because the ESs, but because Neelsville MS, in spite of having great teachers and some very good students, have a larger than normal URM and FARMS population. The disruptiveness of students, inability of school to discipline them, has disheartened many families and forced them to move. This school needs to see a boundary change or get assimilated into other schools, so that it gets a chance.

I know the demographics in Clarksburg and all I can say is that since so many Asian-Americans (both Indians and Chinese) are buying in C'burg, the school will continue to do well. Some disruptive students do not make or break a school. The high achieving kids will continue to do well and be well represented in all kinds of high achievement indicators.

White flight can happen for a number of reason, but the truth is that the biggest concern should be Asian-American flight. White flight stems also from some inherent bias and racism. Asian flight is directly linked to school performance and safety in school. Asians don't give a damn about who they go to school with, what color, what race, what SES etc - as long as the school is safe, the students are not disruptive in classrooms, and students are performing well and are competitive in academics, Asians don't have a problem with the schools or the neighborhoods. Safety and Academic Excellence. Clarksburg has enough high performing students with educated and involved parents in every classroom, I don't see why anyone would feel the need to flee CHS. However, I do wish that these students are removed from school and send to an alternate school.

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White flight can happen for a number of reason, but the truth is that the biggest concern should be Asian-American flight. White flight stems also from some inherent bias and racism. Asian flight is directly linked to school performance and safety in school. Asians don't give a damn about who they go to school with, what color, what race, what SES etc - as long as the school is safe, the students are not disruptive in classrooms, and students are performing well and are competitive in academics, Asians don't have a problem with the schools or the neighborhoods. Safety and Academic Excellence. Clarksburg has enough high performing students with educated and involved parents in every classroom, I don't see why anyone would feel the need to flee CHS. However, I do wish that these students are removed from school and send to an alternate school.

I guess that you are observing Stereotyping Day today.

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Really, whites leave because they are racist and Asians only leave due to school performance and safety.


You are a racist. Blacks, whites, asians and hispanics all want whats best for thier kids. They will all flee from low performing and dangerous schools if they have the means to do so.

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Maybe that's why this "honor-roll" student brought a gun to CHS

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/18-year-old-who-brought-gun-to-clarksburg-hs-sentenced-to-4-months/65-545325214

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Redistricting is hopefully what will come soon for CHS. We do not want Neelsville and some students from Montgomery Village that go to CHS. Serious safety and behavior concerns have been brought up about these students. Not all, but enough to be a trend. Parents have voiced their concerns in parent meetings and board meetings. CHS will reflect the community of Clarksburg once this is done.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe that's why this "honor-roll" student brought a gun to CHS

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/18-year-old-who-brought-gun-to-clarksburg-hs-sentenced-to-4-months/65-545325214

This kid attended a school where I worked at one point in his school career. We observed that he appeared very anxious pretty much all the time. Not like a typical level of anxiety. He was always respectful, was bright and a hard worker, but very anxious. We talked to his parents about it multiple times out of concern for him, but the parents chose to not pursue any kind of treatment for him. Schools cannot force parents to seek treatment for their children and we can’t provide school based without consent. When I saw the news report I honestly wasn’t surprised that he had brought a weapon to school to protect himself. I’m not excusing his actions, but you’d have to know this kid in order to understand what drove him to do that.

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Anonymous wrote:Redistricting is hopefully what will come soon for CHS. We do not want Neelsville and some students from Montgomery Village that go to CHS. Serious safety and behavior concerns have been brought up about these students. Not all, but enough to be a trend. Parents have voiced their concerns in parent meetings and board meetings. CHS will reflect the community of Clarksburg once this is done.

Rezoning will certainly come soon for Clarksburg HS - in fact, the boundary study should be starting any time now, because the new Seneca Valley HS will open in the fall of 2020. And comments like yours are unlikely to go over well during that process.

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Anonymous wrote:Redistricting is hopefully what will come soon for CHS. We do not want Neelsville and some students from Montgomery Village that go to CHS. Serious safety and behavior concerns have been brought up about these students. Not all, but enough to be a trend. Parents have voiced their concerns in parent meetings and board meetings. CHS will reflect the community of Clarksburg once this is done.

Rezoning will certainly come soon for Clarksburg HS - in fact, the boundary study should be starting any time now, because the new Seneca Valley HS will open in the fall of 2020. And comments like yours are unlikely to go over well during that process.

NP. Why? Is it politically incorrect to be concerned about the safety of children? Let's not pretend like there aren't significant problems at Neelsville. Its a high Farms MS with very little parental involvement and the environment at that school reflects that.

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Anonymous wrote:Redistricting is hopefully what will come soon for CHS. We do not want Neelsville and some students from Montgomery Village that go to CHS. Serious safety and behavior concerns have been brought up about these students. Not all, but enough to be a trend. Parents have voiced their concerns in parent meetings and board meetings. CHS will reflect the community of Clarksburg once this is done.

Rezoning will certainly come soon for Clarksburg HS - in fact, the boundary study should be starting any time now, because the new Seneca Valley HS will open in the fall of 2020. And comments like yours are unlikely to go over well during that process.

NP. Why? Is it politically incorrect to be concerned about the safety of children? Let's not pretend like there aren't significant problems at Neelsville. Its a high Farms MS with very little parental involvement and the environment at that school reflects that.

Generally people don't perceive arguments that boil down to "We don't want you in our school" as concern about the safety of children. But you're welcome to try it out and see for yourself what kind of reception you get.

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Anonymous wrote:Solution: Just transfer the kids to Damascus and let them play football.

MCPS!!! Yea!!!!