Security guard injured during brawl at Clarksburg High School

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not some common sense solutions?
1) Administrators, parents, teachers should have a committee that reviews admission request from students that are suspended from their home schools. Based on the input of all parties, they can then choose to give admission only on a probationary manner. If the students misbehaves x number of times, they will be removed.

2) Give administrators the right to remove 2% of students based entirely on behavior and not on academic performance. All these students should be then put in a seperate school with ample support.

While this is a common sense approach that I would support, it would be perceived by many as racist.

So something similar to what you are talking about is done in MCPS. If your child gets to the point that they are actually kicked out of their school they were transferred to RM, Sherwood and another school (I can’t remember the 3rd school). The reason being bc the environment at those schools was vastly different than their home school. Now the problem with that, is when you have so many kids coming in who bring their issues it eventually disrupts the school norm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Redistricting is hopefully what will come soon for CHS. We do not want Neelsville and some students from Montgomery Village that go to CHS. Serious safety and behavior concerns have been brought up about these students. Not all, but enough to be a trend. Parents have voiced their concerns in parent meetings and board meetings. CHS will reflect the community of Clarksburg once this is done.

Rezoning will certainly come soon for Clarksburg HS - in fact, the boundary study should be starting any time now, because the new Seneca Valley HS will open in the fall of 2020. And comments like yours are unlikely to go over well during that process.

NP. Why? Is it politically incorrect to be concerned about the safety of children? Let's not pretend like there aren't significant problems at Neelsville. Its a high Farms MS with very little parental involvement and the environment at that school reflects that.

Generally people don't perceive arguments that boil down to "We don't want you in our school" as concern about the safety of children. But you're welcome to try it out and see for yourself what kind of reception you get.

Ok. Send them to the W schools and see what reaction you get. If you think those upc, up white families want their kids going to school with bad, low, poor brown kids you are dead wrong.

This!

W schools will not stand for anything causing their property values and school ratings to be lowered. They have stopped it in the past (think Churchill before it became a blue ribbon school) and when a kid (typically minority) is an issue they try hard to have the child removed. And even W schools have fights (they typically have more issues with racism, alcohol and drugs).

Clarksburg and Rocky Hill pull from areas that would typically feed into WM and SV. If you are actually familiar with the area then you will know that once the new SV opens there will be a noticeable difference in Clarksburg. You can take that as a positive or negative statement but it is reality. It won’t be busting at the seems either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This!

W schools will not stand for anything causing their property values and school ratings to be lowered. They have stopped it in the past (think Churchill before it became a blue ribbon school) and when a kid (typically minority) is an issue they try hard to have the child removed. And even W schools have fights (they typically have more issues with racism, alcohol and drugs).

Clarksburg and Rocky Hill pull from areas that would typically feed into WM and SV. If you are actually familiar with the area then you will know that once the new SV opens there will be a noticeable difference in Clarksburg. You can take that as a positive or negative statement but it is reality. It won’t be busting at the seems either.

What does that mean? The boundaries are the boundaries. There's no "typically" about it.

Once the new Seneca Valley HS building opens, there will be fewer students at Clarksburg HS, because some of the areas that currently go to Clarksburg HS will be reassigned to Seneca Valley HS. That's the point of the boundary study.

Planning Issue: Although a classroom addition
opened in September 2015 to accommodate the
overutilization at Clarksburg High School, student
enrollment will continue to exceed capacity by
over 800 students by the end of the six-year planning period. Enrollment also is projected to exceed
capacity at Northwest High School by almost 700
students. The Seneca Valley High School service
area is adjacent to the Clarksburg and Northwest high school service areas. A revitalization/
expansion project of Seneca Valley High School,
scheduled for completion in September 2020, will
be designed and constructed with a capacity for
2,581 students. The enrollment at Seneca Valley
High School is projected to be 1,301 students by
the end of the six-year planning period. With a
capacity of 2,581 seats, there will be approximately
1,280 seats available to accommodate students
from Clarksburg and Northwest high schools
when the project is complete.

Planning Study: A boundary study is approved
to explore the reassignment of Clarksburg and
Northwest high school students to Seneca Valley High School. As part of the boundary study,
middle school articulation patterns in the Seneca
Valley Cluster will be reviewed in order to evaluate utilizations and articulation patterns, therefore
Roberto Clemente and Martin Luther King, Jr.
middle schools will participate in the boundary
study. In order to minimize split articulations
among the three clusters, the superintendent recommends expanding the scope of the boundary
study to include all of the middle schools in the
Clarksburg and Northwest clusters in addition to
the middle schools in the Seneca Valley Cluster. The boundary study will begin in late fall/early winter 2018 with Board
action scheduled in November 2019.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This!

W schools will not stand for anything causing their property values and school ratings to be lowered. They have stopped it in the past (think Churchill before it became a blue ribbon school) and when a kid (typically minority) is an issue they try hard to have the child removed. And even W schools have fights (they typically have more issues with racism, alcohol and drugs).

Clarksburg and Rocky Hill pull from areas that would typically feed into WM and SV. If you are actually familiar with the area then you will know that once the new SV opens there will be a noticeable difference in Clarksburg. You can take that as a positive or negative statement but it is reality. It won’t be busting at the seems either.

What does that mean? The boundaries are the boundaries. There's no "typically" about it.

Once the new Seneca Valley HS building opens, there will be fewer students at Clarksburg HS, because some of the areas that currently go to Clarksburg HS will be reassigned to Seneca Valley HS. That's the point of the boundary study.

Planning Issue: Although a classroom addition
opened in September 2015 to accommodate the
overutilization at Clarksburg High School, student
enrollment will continue to exceed capacity by
over 800 students by the end of the six-year planning period. Enrollment also is projected to exceed
capacity at Northwest High School by almost 700
students. The Seneca Valley High School service
area is adjacent to the Clarksburg and Northwest high school service areas. A revitalization/
expansion project of Seneca Valley High School,
scheduled for completion in September 2020, will
be designed and constructed with a capacity for
2,581 students. The enrollment at Seneca Valley
High School is projected to be 1,301 students by
the end of the six-year planning period. With a
capacity of 2,581 seats, there will be approximately
1,280 seats available to accommodate students
from Clarksburg and Northwest high schools
when the project is complete.

Planning Study: A boundary study is approved
to explore the reassignment of Clarksburg and
Northwest high school students to Seneca Valley High School. As part of the boundary study,
middle school articulation patterns in the Seneca
Valley Cluster will be reviewed in order to evaluate utilizations and articulation patterns, therefore
Roberto Clemente and Martin Luther King, Jr.
middle schools will participate in the boundary
study. In order to minimize split articulations
among the three clusters, the superintendent recommends expanding the scope of the boundary
study to include all of the middle schools in the
Clarksburg and Northwest clusters in addition to
the middle schools in the Seneca Valley Cluster. The boundary study will begin in late fall/early winter 2018 with Board
action scheduled in November 2019.

Principal of Seneca Valley wants to bring back all of Germantown together: https://www.germantownpulse.net/single-post/2017/09/18/Officials-Break-Ground-for-New-Seneca-Valley-High-School

"Principal Marc Cohen said the new school could be an opportunity to bring all of Germantown back together. “I am excited to bring the community back together. I have nothing to do with how the boundary lines are going to be a drawn. What I do know is that when the other two high schools in the immediate area were built, the Seneca community was split to feed those schools. I love the possibility of bringing much of Germantown back together under our roof. I think it is a great opportunity for us to rebrand our community,” said Cohen. “This is an amazing gift to be able to usher in this project,” continued Cohen. “I love the idea that we are going to double in size. A big school offers us so many more opportunities for learning than a small school does. The kinds of programming that we are going to be able to offer is exciting. We have programs like Project Lead the Way, which is an engineering program, and we will be expanding our International Baccalaureate program.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Principal of Seneca Valley wants to bring back all of Germantown together: https://www.germantownpulse.net/single-post/2017/09/18/Officials-Break-Ground-for-New-Seneca-Valley-High-School

"Principal Marc Cohen said the new school could be an opportunity to bring all of Germantown back together. “I am excited to bring the community back together. I have nothing to do with how the boundary lines are going to be a drawn. What I do know is that when the other two high schools in the immediate area were built, the Seneca community was split to feed those schools. I love the possibility of bringing much of Germantown back together under our roof. I think it is a great opportunity for us to rebrand our community,” said Cohen. “This is an amazing gift to be able to usher in this project,” continued Cohen. “I love the idea that we are going to double in size. A big school offers us so many more opportunities for learning than a small school does. The kinds of programming that we are going to be able to offer is exciting. We have programs like Project Lead the Way, which is an engineering program, and we will be expanding our International Baccalaureate program.”

[Anonymous]

Gibbs ES is in Germantown and is currently in the Clarksburg cluster.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/GibbsES.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/02337.pdf

I know that, during the Hallie Wells MS boundary study, there were parents at Gibbs ES who were very worried that they would get rezoned to Neelsville MS. I'm guessing that there is now similar fear about rezoning to Seneca Valley HS - and that this fear might be prompting some of the anonymous talk on this thread about rezoning those OTHER kids OVER THERE (you know, the bad ones) to Seneca Valley HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gibbs ES is in Germantown and is currently in the Clarksburg cluster.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/GibbsES.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/02337.pdf

I know that, during the Hallie Wells MS boundary study, there were parents at Gibbs ES who were very worried that they would get rezoned to Neelsville MS. I'm guessing that there is now similar fear about rezoning to Seneca Valley HS - and that this fear might be prompting some of the anonymous talk on this thread about rezoning those OTHER kids OVER THERE (you know, the bad ones) to Seneca Valley HS.

Look you can take it however you want but it doesn’t dismiss the truth. Neelsville MS has issues. WMHS has issues. SV has issues. A lot of those issues are behavior and stem from economics. I say this as someone who has actually worked at WM and other title one schools. Sorry I’m not sorry about the issue of rezoning. There are “bad” kids everywhere but until you actually work in title one and non title one schools you will never understand the difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gibbs ES is in Germantown and is currently in the Clarksburg cluster.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/GibbsES.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/02337.pdf

I know that, during the Hallie Wells MS boundary study, there were parents at Gibbs ES who were very worried that they would get rezoned to Neelsville MS. I'm guessing that there is now similar fear about rezoning to Seneca Valley HS - and that this fear might be prompting some of the anonymous talk on this thread about rezoning those OTHER kids OVER THERE (you know, the bad ones) to Seneca Valley HS.

Look you can take it however you want but it doesn’t dismiss the truth. Neelsville MS has issues. WMHS has issues. SV has issues. A lot of those issues are behavior and stem from economics. I say this as someone who has actually worked at WM and other title one schools. Sorry I’m not sorry about the issue of rezoning. There are “bad” kids everywhere but until you actually work in title one and non title one schools you will never understand the difference.

This. I never understood why some people here are harsh on the parents who don't want trouble in their school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gibbs ES is in Germantown and is currently in the Clarksburg cluster.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/GibbsES.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/02337.pdf

I know that, during the Hallie Wells MS boundary study, there were parents at Gibbs ES who were very worried that they would get rezoned to Neelsville MS. I'm guessing that there is now similar fear about rezoning to Seneca Valley HS - and that this fear might be prompting some of the anonymous talk on this thread about rezoning those OTHER kids OVER THERE (you know, the bad ones) to Seneca Valley HS.

Look you can take it however you want but it doesn’t dismiss the truth. Neelsville MS has issues. WMHS has issues. SV has issues. A lot of those issues are behavior and stem from economics. I say this as someone who has actually worked at WM and other title one schools. Sorry I’m not sorry about the issue of rezoning. There are “bad” kids everywhere but until you actually work in title one and non title one schools you will never understand the difference.

WMHS is a mess!

But do you really believe that rezoning will help? Moving pockets of kids to schools with higher SES will not be an easy transition. You see it now. Kids don't mix, which creates tension and makes schools w/in schools. It's actually quite sad, as you see FARMs kids in the cafeteria during lunch while the "lunch box" kids are elsewhere.

don't have the answer . . .

But this is simply - to resurrect a non-PC term - busing. This is exactly the reason why magnets were created.

bottom line - Likes attract likes. People move in similar circles. And in this case, SES circles run the school system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gibbs ES is in Germantown and is currently in the Clarksburg cluster.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/GibbsES.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/02337.pdf

I know that, during the Hallie Wells MS boundary study, there were parents at Gibbs ES who were very worried that they would get rezoned to Neelsville MS. I'm guessing that there is now similar fear about rezoning to Seneca Valley HS - and that this fear might be prompting some of the anonymous talk on this thread about rezoning those OTHER kids OVER THERE (you know, the bad ones) to Seneca Valley HS.

Look you can take it however you want but it doesn’t dismiss the truth. Neelsville MS has issues. WMHS has issues. SV has issues. A lot of those issues are behavior and stem from economics. I say this as someone who has actually worked at WM and other title one schools. Sorry I’m not sorry about the issue of rezoning. There are “bad” kids everywhere but until you actually work in title one and non title one schools you will never understand the difference.

WMHS is a mess!

But do you really believe that rezoning will help? Moving pockets of kids to schools with higher SES will not be an easy transition. You see it now. Kids don't mix, which creates tension and makes schools w/in schools. It's actually quite sad, as you see FARMs kids in the cafeteria during lunch while the "lunch box" kids are elsewhere.

don't have the answer . . .

But this is simply - to resurrect a non-PC term - busing. This is exactly the reason why magnets were created.

bottom line - Likes attract likes. People move in similar circles. And in this case, SES circles run the school system.

You misunderstand, I would prefer Clarksburg to house the kids in Clarksburg. The rezoning to Clarksburg is an issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gibbs ES is in Germantown and is currently in the Clarksburg cluster.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/GibbsES.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/02337.pdf

I know that, during the Hallie Wells MS boundary study, there were parents at Gibbs ES who were very worried that they would get rezoned to Neelsville MS. I'm guessing that there is now similar fear about rezoning to Seneca Valley HS - and that this fear might be prompting some of the anonymous talk on this thread about rezoning those OTHER kids OVER THERE (you know, the bad ones) to Seneca Valley HS.

Look you can take it however you want but it doesn’t dismiss the truth. Neelsville MS has issues. WMHS has issues. SV has issues. A lot of those issues are behavior and stem from economics. I say this as someone who has actually worked at WM and other title one schools. Sorry I’m not sorry about the issue of rezoning. There are “bad” kids everywhere but until you actually work in title one and non title one schools you will never understand the difference.

WMHS is a mess!

But do you really believe that rezoning will help? Moving pockets of kids to schools with higher SES will not be an easy transition. You see it now. Kids don't mix, which creates tension and makes schools w/in schools. It's actually quite sad, as you see FARMs kids in the cafeteria during lunch while the "lunch box" kids are elsewhere.

don't have the answer . . .

But this is simply - to resurrect a non-PC term - busing. This is exactly the reason why magnets were created.

bottom line - Likes attract likes. People move in similar circles. And in this case, SES circles run the school system.

You misunderstand, I would prefer Clarksburg to house the kids in Clarksburg. The rezoning to Clarksburg is an issue.

sorry - I did.

I have friends at CHS who complain about the lines all the time.

As a former NECer, I'm no stranger to rezoning. Neighborhoods in Mo Co are a thing of the past.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gibbs ES is in Germantown and is currently in the Clarksburg cluster.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/GibbsES.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/02337.pdf

I know that, during the Hallie Wells MS boundary study, there were parents at Gibbs ES who were very worried that they would get rezoned to Neelsville MS. I'm guessing that there is now similar fear about rezoning to Seneca Valley HS - and that this fear might be prompting some of the anonymous talk on this thread about rezoning those OTHER kids OVER THERE (you know, the bad ones) to Seneca Valley HS.

Look you can take it however you want but it doesn’t dismiss the truth. Neelsville MS has issues. WMHS has issues. SV has issues. A lot of those issues are behavior and stem from economics. I say this as someone who has actually worked at WM and other title one schools. Sorry I’m not sorry about the issue of rezoning. There are “bad” kids everywhere but until you actually work in title one and non title one schools you will never understand the difference.

This. I never understood why some people here are harsh on the parents who don't want trouble in their school.

I think that most parents don't want trouble in their kids' schools - don't you?

[Anonymous]

We moved from the Northwest cluster to escape all these fights and drugs and gangs to Clarksburg Village, but now I feel like history is repeating itself on us. This thread reminds me of what we dealt with back in Germantown. Hopefully they redistrict the germantown kids back to germantown schools when SV opens before DC gets to high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We moved from the Northwest cluster to escape all these fights and drugs and gangs to Clarksburg Village, but now I feel like history is repeating itself on us. This thread reminds me of what we dealt with back in Germantown. Hopefully they redistrict the germantown kids back to germantown schools when SV opens before DC gets to high school.

You’re an idiot. You’re kids aren’t even in HS yet and you are claiming drugs, fighting and gangs?! Seriously?! NW is not some gang school (non in MCPS are). Matsunaga ES has a great reputation (feeder into NW). I live in Clarksburg and it’s FAR from drugs and gangs. If you’re scared of fights happening in schools then I have a reality check for you “THERE ARE FIGHTS IN EVERY SCHOOL!”

Put your precious snowflake in private.

[Anonymous]

Will rezoning and send troubled kids to different school make these students change?