We are doing something wrong to women in our homes.

[Anonymous]

The fact that we are behind the Philippines says a lot. That is a very misogynistic culture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^ if that stat were reversed , we would never hear the end of it. It would be the focal point of every policy and tv show. Marches and Ribbons and outrage would be non stop.

But men just sit and take it like the Heros they are.

Nonsense, but it isn't like that because men work, go into higher paying fields, work in more dangerous jobs that pay more. Men come up worse in virtually every "bad thing" that can happen categories yet no ribbons, marches. Why they are too busy making things happen and do not have the same love for complaining women do.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is a lazy student that just posted an essay question for the woman's studies class and expects us to give her ideas for her paper.

Womens Studies contributes to the wage gap, it is useless , stop whining and get into a major that will produce a marketable skill. The study quoted stated women have to start getting into STEM if we expect wide scale parity.

I pray to god you don’t have a girlfriend, wife or daughters. Wow.

You didn't address the person's point about STEM. Who cares what you pray about.

[Anonymous]

This isn't the case in my house.

I'm the mother, and I have a demanding career. My husband has a less demanding career, so he's the default parent. Our children (boys) are being raised in a home where they are expected to clean up after themselves. They know how to cook. They know how to do laundry and put clothes away. They help with yard work.

Most importantly: they know I'm not the maid. And they know that we don't have a maid, so we're all responsible for pitching in to maintain the house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is a lazy student that just posted an essay question for the woman's studies class and expects us to give her ideas for her paper.

Womens Studies contributes to the wage gap, it is useless , stop whining and get into a major that will produce a marketable skill. The study quoted stated women have to start getting into STEM if we expect wide scale parity.

I pray to god you don’t have a girlfriend, wife or daughters. Wow.

You didn't address the person's point about STEM. Who cares what you pray about.

DP... pay gap in STEM exists, too. There are a few lawsuits going around about the disparity.

-signed a female in IT

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:huh? I'm a millennial married to a millennial. The men I know and the man I married fully support women's rights. Men do chores, they make half the income, they're great fathers and supportive parents. Our father's generation (boomers) and our grandfather's generation (born in 20s) didn't do any of this. The world is changing!

I do know quite a few women though who complain about their lazy husbands, but raise lazy sons too. They just don't see the disconnect that they're raising someone's future lazy husband.

I do know quite a few women though who complain about their lazy husbands not realizing they are complaining about things no one else cares about. They spend time doing things no else cares about act like martyrs. They just don't realize this insisting other people should be doing stuff only they want done someone's else's nagging wife.


On a serious note, this "lazyhusband" stuff is simply stupid. Has it occured to you you may really do a lot things only you care about then play martyr. Most women complaining are full of crap.
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Kids’ doctor appts, dentist appts, clothes that fit, insurance renewed, taxes paid, vacations booked, rats/mice not eating crumbs in the house, camps/school enrolled. Bdays parties attended w a present, bed made, clothes cleaned, cars maintained, winter coats bought, too small clothes/shoes boxed up, etc.
all those stupid details your mom did for you and your misogynistic father, that you like to claim never matter. Keep it up and you will be divorced, or are you already?

Home (to keep free of crumbs), food, lights, heat, air conditioning, doctors appts, dentist appts, clothes, insurance, taxes paid, vacations booked, schools, bday parties attended w/ gifts, a bed, a machine to wash your clothes, a car, winter coats, ....all those things your stupid father paid for you and your lazy ass mother by a lazy man. Keep up being ungrateful and complaining about men and you will be divorced, or all you all ready and that's why you are so bitter.

Typical idiot DCUM throws out names like misogynist (and at someone not even involved....you get two retard stars), pretending the world revolves around stereo typical house work while pretending the work outside the home that actually make it possible is nothing. Who said those things "never mattered"? Do you think possible a woman may do things that simply because she and only her want done?

By the way, I dont know about your household but a real man maintains his car he doesn't have his wife take it to someone else and all of those things. YOu must have had some real weak lazy male roll models. Cheer up most of us can and do do everything you do.

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Anonymous wrote:These numbers explain a lot. The emphasis on sexiness and hotness for women is MUCH more intense than it was when I grew up. It overwhelms all the other talk about the need for a woman to be educated, confident and career focused.
Look at actresses in the UK. There are many, many relatively normal looking women. In the US you must be a sex goddess.

Very good point. Appearance standards for young women are higher in the US now than they were 20-30 years ago. Young girls feel like they gave to look "perfect".

No they aren't, not even close. Look at the sheer number of obese women and girls it high hand keeps climbing. Female appearance 'standards" in the US are very low compared to the rest of the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn't the case in my house.

I'm the mother, and I have a demanding career. My husband has a less demanding career, so he's the default parent. Our children (boys) are being raised in a home where they are expected to clean up after themselves. They know how to cook. They know how to do laundry and put clothes away. They help with yard work.

Most importantly: they know I'm not the maid. And they know that we don't have a maid, so we're all responsible for pitching in to maintain the house.

How old are your kids? Do they take initiative, or do you and their dad give them a list or something?

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it possible that after a generation or two of two-income households, people are placing more importance on having a parent stay home with their kids? And yes, there is a natural and biological proclivity for that stay at home parent to be the woman. You can argue whether that is right or wrong, but the data support that conclusion.

Why is it considered "equality in retreat" if a woman wants to stay home with her kids? My wife was raised by a single professional woman and had a successful professional career herself. And now she is out of the workforce, as a stay at home parent. That hardly puts her in retreat or gender inequality.

I agree with this, although not every women steps out of the workforce by choice. But it is true that many people saw what the rat race was doing to themselves and their families and chose a different way to live that was better for them. The inequity is that no everyone has this option. But when two working professionals make a mutual choice for their family to drop to one income, I think that it is unsound to suggest that this is gender inequity.

I would never SAHM because my husband would only further check-out of his family duties. All the household stuff I do is already taken for granted by him so why on earth would I ditch my career for that unappreciativeness? Thank goodness we only have daughters and they started seeing right through him when each was 4 yo — when he couldn’t even hold a conversation w them w o looking at his work iPhone or keeping track of anything they said. So sad.

"Thank godness we only have daughters", you not only apparently have bad taste and judgement in men you are sexist, a great match.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it possible that after a generation or two of two-income households, people are placing more importance on having a parent stay home with their kids? And yes, there is a natural and biological proclivity for that stay at home parent to be the woman. You can argue whether that is right or wrong, but the data support that conclusion.

Why is it considered "equality in retreat" if a woman wants to stay home with her kids? My wife was raised by a single professional woman and had a successful professional career herself. And now she is out of the workforce, as a stay at home parent. That hardly puts her in retreat or gender inequality.

Not surprised that you're a man who believes in 'natural and biological proclivity'. Male chauvinist pig.

Nice retort, name calling is always an effective response to refute an opinion. Typical. By the biological proclivity not something to "believe in", it is real. Is your issue with implying their is a biological proclivity to be a sahm. Data, studies and just plan observation tend to say this is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These numbers explain a lot. The emphasis on sexiness and hotness for women is MUCH more intense than it was when I grew up. It overwhelms all the other talk about the need for a woman to be educated, confident and career focused.
Look at actresses in the UK. There are many, many relatively normal looking women. In the US you must be a sex goddess.

kate beckinsale is normal looking to you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These numbers explain a lot. The emphasis on sexiness and hotness for women is MUCH more intense than it was when I grew up. It overwhelms all the other talk about the need for a woman to be educated, confident and career focused.
Look at actresses in the UK. There are many, many relatively normal looking women. In the US you must be a sex goddess.

This, and just in the recent decade it has permeated into the MILF and Cougars. Women are now more than EVER expected to be "sex kittens" well into middle age. However, we women do it to ourselves. One only needs to look at Instagram and the culture of female selfie narcissism to see exactly how and why we are moving backwards. We objectify ourselves and then cry boo-hoo when men no longer know how to act around us. So many mixed message.

I think women need to take a hard look in the mirror to find the answers.

My god what is with some women and this anti-attractive obsession. Is it an excuse for not being as successful as you had hoped or fat women jealous? Really, I dont get it. Women in the US do not put in anywhere near the effort in their appearance of women in other most Europe or Latin American, not even close. Stop making excuses and focus on high earning fields.

this. american women are slobs compared to ses-similar european or south american women.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ if that stat were reversed , we would never hear the end of it. It would be the focal point of every policy and tv show. Marches and Ribbons and outrage would be non stop.

But men just sit and take it like the Heros they are.

Nonsense, but it isn't like that because men work, go into higher paying fields, work in more dangerous jobs that pay more. Men come up worse in virtually every "bad thing" that can happen categories yet no ribbons, marches. Why they are too busy making things happen and do not have the same love for complaining women do.

You mean like murdering people and killing people in wars? Men are responsible for almost all of the suffering on this planet. Sure you may start businesses but you also have a serious issue with violence. The only reason you’ve been able to accomplish so much is because you’ve had free labor to take care of your children and home and you don’t bear the burden of having children. You’re gender is a disgrace.

[Anonymous]

Pp here. Obv meant YOUR. ^^

[Anonymous]

Another topic from people with too much time on their hands

People should be choosier before they get married and ask basic questions like

What are our roles when we get married

Who is going to be the default parent and take a career hit

What role will outsourcing play

I'm 35 and most of my friend circle knew to ask these questions before marriage. The only people I feel bad for are the people who lied but even then you can get a pretty good idea about what your spouse is thinknig if you date them long enough