My child's name in on a KILL list

[Anonymous]

OP, if I were you, I'd be in the principal's office this very second demanding explanations, and if they'd swept the situation under the rug, I'd be calling the police right there, in the administration's presence.

I don't know if your child truly bullied the gun-crazed boy or it's just one big misunderstanding, it doesn't matter (and I can't believe some people on here think it's all right to shoot 'mean girls' to teach them a lesson! PPs who say that must have been bullied as children and are still nursing their revenge fantasies). There's no death penalty in the state of Maryland even for serial killers!

OP, contact the school and find out what truly goes on. Don't let it slide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
1. This is a fourth grader. I highly doubt he's going to show up and shoot people this year, HOWEVER -

2. You need to raise hell because sane children don't say things like this, and if the police isn't involved and clued in, and this boy's parents don't get him to a therapist and psychologist, he could be the next high school shooter in a few years.

3. And by raising hell I mean getting together with ALL the parents whose children you know are on the list and talking to them, as well as contacting the school and demanding they take it seriously, and if no one else calls the police, call them yourself.

4. Don't downplay your child's role in this or the other children's role. Perhaps they bullied him, perhaps not, but the reality is that he FELT bullied. In your communication with the police and the school, always be factual, objective and fair. Do not reject bullying accusations out of hand.

So, I googled, "elementary student brings gun to school" and found this:

https://www.google.com/search?q=elementary+student+brings+gun+to+school&oq=elementary+student+brings+gun+to+school&aqs=chrome..69i57.4974j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Those are the search results. They are ENDLESS. In my hometown a few years ago a child brought a (unknown to him) loaded gun to school and it discharged, seriously injuring another student - I can't remember if she died or not.

The fact that this student is claiming to have ACCESS to a gun is concerning enough to raise the alarm with the police. Add to that the supposed KILL list, and there is a potentially very serious problem that needs to be dealt with immediately. First - access needs to be taken away entirely and someone needs to be checking in. A student in my child's class brought a knife to school (yes its DC, yes its a low income school) because he was told that if he didn't go straight to school he could get kidnapped so he was scared and brought a knife. It was found, it was dealt with, the parents fixed the situation (it also wasn't sharp, it was a butter knife). He was in 2nd grade.

So, while it is probably unlikely that a 4th grader will bring a gun to school, his access needs to be thoroughly investigated because he is threatening other students, and students DO bring guns to school sometimes, and bad things can happen.

And OP, if your daughter is a "mean girl" that needs to be dealt with too. It's not victim blaming, its called trying to raise nice people. (and has nothing to do with this incident as far as I'm concerned, because I don't see that in your post)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can handle your daughter. Start by teaching kindness and empathy.

Blame the victim. Nice

Op, I'd schedule an in person meeting with the principal for today. Ask all your questions above. From there, I would determine next steps.

she is hardly a victim and more likely, a bully.

Okay. Let's say OP's daughter IS a bully. She's still 9 or 10, and a fourth grader. Do you honestly think she deserves to DIE for teasing someone and poking them every day? Or does she maybe deserve a very stern yelling-at, and to be grounded for a week and have to write an apology to whoever she's been bullying and to maybe not get a birthday party this year? I am all about coming down hard on kids. But I also think we need to be fair - a fourth grader shouldn't be deemed a sociopath who deserves to die.

Why aren't you asking why a fourth grade boy has a gun or access to one? THAT is a huge problem.

[Anonymous]

NP here, with a child in APS. For the love of all the gods, OP, PLEASE CONTACT THE POLICE. RIGHT NOW. If you haven't already. There is no way you cannot take this seriously enough. JFC, people. Stop downplaying this. And it would be great if you could please tell us the school. This is a public health concern.

[Anonymous]

What school is this? It is important for parents to share information in the spirit of caring for the greater whole. Communities take care of communities via sharing information!!!!

[Anonymous]

I agree with the sentiments of contacting the police. LEO wants to ensure their fellow public servants are also protected, along with children of course.

Sometimes we tend to try and avoid heavy conflict when it involves children, for good reason. However, a kill list is a dark thought for a child and there is clearly something else happening in this kids life to physically write a list and share it with enough people that it got back to your daughter. If anything the child is screaming for attention, so give him the attention he needs.

[Anonymous]

+1 what ES is this? DC, MD or VA?

[Anonymous]

Assuming that OP did not lie about the school corroborating the allegation of a kill list, this whole story wreaks of some school official trying to cover it up to secure their own ratings. Perfect dilemma for all you DCUM moms out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Law enforcement person here - call the police. Now.

This is not a "school" issue. As someone who work with law enforcement after multiple school shootings, the one thing EVERYONE says is "I wish someone had called the police sooner"

Don't be that person we are interviewing who says that.

Shouldn't I give the school a chance to act accordingly?

No. That ship has sailed. You don't get to threaten other kids with a gun, regardless of your "reason" for doing so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1 what ES is this? DC, MD or VA?

She said APS (Arlington)

[Anonymous]

So what are you doing OP? I agree with the others that said demand answers today from the school and call the police. I would have been afraid to even send my child today if I were you.

[Anonymous]

Full disclosure: I only read the first and last pages.

IS THIS ENTIRE THREAD A TROLL?

From the "shouldn't I let the school work through their processes" to the "teach your daughter empathy"?

WTF is wrong with you people.

If it's not a troll, call the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can handle your daughter. Start by teaching kindness and empathy.

Blame the victim. Nice

Op, I'd schedule an in person meeting with the principal for today. Ask all your questions above. From there, I would determine next steps.

she is hardly a victim and more likely, a bully.

Are you kidding me? A kid with a Kill list and threatening a gun is one deranged or messed up kid. This is not a 5 year old. It is a 9 year old who should know better.
I would absolutely call the police and the other parents. Kid needs to be suspended or expelled or both. 0 tolerance for violent threats.
If my kid were the Kill list kid, I would want the police, principal (and me) to put the fear of God in my kid, lest he turn out to be some homicidal maniac.

[Anonymous]

Law enforcement here, plenty of 4th grade "children" shoot people in this country. This is not rare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Law enforcement person here - call the police. Now.

This is not a "school" issue. As someone who work with law enforcement after multiple school shootings, the one thing EVERYONE says is "I wish someone had called the police sooner"

Don't be that person we are interviewing who says that.

G
Shouldn't I give the school a chance to act accordingly?

No. They aren't.