This Is Us -- Season 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:***Everyone in the show knows how Jack died...
Except us.
And Toby.

Are we Toby???????

That's what show writers fail on sometimes. When the story has a twist, they need to consider who knows and who doesn't know. And, if everyone knows but the viewer, they're simply being manipulative.

For example, if they told the story in order, it would be one thing. OR, if they told the story as character(s) learn, that's fine too. But if WE are Toby, I'll be mad

I thought Kate told Toby the story about her dad's death at some point in the first season...

I think she did tell Toby but we didn't witness it, in the scene with the urn and the football game. I don't agree that it is necessarily manipulative that the rest of the characters know and we don't. What would be the point of the show that traverses different timelines if we knew everything before we saw it?

[Anonymous]

Here is my theory. I think Kate started the fire (accidentally) maybe when no one else was home, and called her dad, he rushed home and died in a car accident on the way. Maybe he was at a bar drinking. I don't think he died in the fire because his belongings were too pristine. But I do think he died that day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is my theory. I think Kate started the fire (accidentally) maybe when no one else was home, and called her dad, he rushed home and died in a car accident on the way. Maybe he was at a bar drinking. I don't think he died in the fire because his belongings were too pristine. But I do think he died that day.

I/m 14:35 from the front page. I like your thinking! I also think that the house fire stemmed from Kate (I posited from smoking cigarettes).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is my theory. I think Kate started the fire (accidentally) maybe when no one else was home, and called her dad, he rushed home and died in a car accident on the way. Maybe he was at a bar drinking. I don't think he died in the fire because his belongings were too pristine. But I do think he died that day.

but how did she call him? Pretty sure there were no cell phones around when he died.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Toby is a closeted abuser. He appears to adore Kate, but he only wants Kate to himself. There is something off about him. He is very controlling and jealous of Kate's relationship with her family. I definitely think the writers could go deep into his anger issues and his past. I envision a scene with Kevin beating the crap out of him after emotionally abusing Kate. I want Toby to be viciously killed. I dislike his character the most.

Whoa I think maybe you need to step away from the show. It's one thing to be annoyed by a character, but "viciously killed"?!! Relax! It's tv!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is my theory. I think Kate started the fire (accidentally) maybe when no one else was home, and called her dad, he rushed home and died in a car accident on the way. Maybe he was at a bar drinking. I don't think he died in the fire because his belongings were too pristine. But I do think he died that day.

but how did she call him? Pretty sure there were no cell phones around when he died.

NP. If the kids are 17, it's about 1997. I had a cellphone then.

[Anonymous]

Yeah,
I think Kate did something to try to get her dad back home. She may have wanted a small fire so he could rush in and be the hero or something and he was out drinking and died on the way home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is my theory. I think Kate started the fire (accidentally) maybe when no one else was home, and called her dad, he rushed home and died in a car accident on the way. Maybe he was at a bar drinking. I don't think he died in the fire because his belongings were too pristine. But I do think he died that day.

but how did she call him? Pretty sure there were no cell phones around when he died.

NP. If the kids are 17, it's about 1997. I had a cellphone then.

Middle class teens from Bethel, Pennsylvania, especially three simultaneously, were not likely to have cell phones in 1997.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah,
I think Kate did something to try to get her dad back home. She may have wanted a small fire so he could rush in and be the hero or something and he was out drinking and died on the way home.

Plot line from Endless Love where the protagonist starts a fire on a porch so that he can be a hero when he puts it out but the fire spreads too fast and burns the entire house down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you all think Jack was a good husband and great father?

When Rebecca said that no one was perfect but Jack was "as close as you can get" I was like, "What now?" I think he was a good guy but no where near perfect. I think he was a highly flawed person in fact. That doesn't mean he couldn't be a good husband and father, but I think it's weird how they mythologize him on this show.

I always took this as an intentional reference to how we tend to romanticize family members who die young. A father who was well loved and died when his kids were teens would likely be mythologized by his kids and widow as they grew up/older.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is my theory. I think Kate started the fire (accidentally) maybe when no one else was home, and called her dad, he rushed home and died in a car accident on the way. Maybe he was at a bar drinking. I don't think he died in the fire because his belongings were too pristine. But I do think he died that day.

but how did she call him? Pretty sure there were no cell phones around when he died.

NP. If the kids are 17, it's about 1997. I had a cellphone then.

Middle class teens from Bethel, Pennsylvania, especially three simultaneously, were not likely to have cell phones in 1997.

Simply refuting PP's claims that there were "no cell phones around" at the time.

Cool your jets.

[Anonymous]

Kate is so bitter and annoying.

[Anonymous]

I'm already annoyed by the foster kid storyline. And last night's conversation about it was terrible-- in the middle of Kevin's show she has to discuss it RIGHT THAT MINUTE but then when they really do start talking about it, she walks says "I don't want to talk about this now" and walks away. Huh?

[Anonymous]

I don't get the haters here. Given all the crap on TV, this show is really good.

Milo Ventimiglia deserves an Emmy from last night's show.

[Anonymous]

Toby kind of redeemed himself for me too. I loved his "team Kate" speech to the mom. I mean, who wouldn't want that kind of support? But Kate is insufferable. I can't stand her.