This Is Us -- Season 2

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Anonymous wrote:There's a small chance they're crying about the house burning down, but Jack is still alive.... However, I think the mom had his possessions on the seat next to her? Although wouldn't they have been more damaged from a fire?


I think they are drying because jack is dead. Earlier in the episode Kevin talked about how Kate was the one who told him their father had died and in the end she is saying how she has to find him and be the one to tell him.

I do agree about the personal items. Wouldn't they be in worse shape if they had been through a fire. Although i guess smoke inhalation is more likely to kill than the fir so maybe he didn't get burned/totally die in the fire.

maybe Kate blames herself because he went back in for her or her dog?


I assumed this. I was thinking it might have had to do with his drinking (fell asleep/passed out with a cigarette?) but actually given the scene where it was clear he was ready to deal with the drinking problem, I think he'll be on the straight and narrow.


I actually think it might be Kate smoking a cigarette that leads to the house fire. And that's why Beth and Randall fake smoked after the adoption agency visit.

But I also think the fire might come after Jack's death. His belongings on the seat in the car next to Rebecca were pristine. So maybe he dies another way, and then Rebecca goes home and sees the house gone from the fire?


I don't remember this part - what happened?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's a small chance they're crying about the house burning down, but Jack is still alive.... However, I think the mom had his possessions on the seat next to her? Although wouldn't they have been more damaged from a fire?


I think they are drying because jack is dead. Earlier in the episode Kevin talked about how Kate was the one who told him their father had died and in the end she is saying how she has to find him and be the one to tell him.

I do agree about the personal items. Wouldn't they be in worse shape if they had been through a fire. Although i guess smoke inhalation is more likely to kill than the fir so maybe he didn't get burned/totally die in the fire.

maybe Kate blames herself because he went back in for her or her dog?


I assumed this. I was thinking it might have had to do with his drinking (fell asleep/passed out with a cigarette?) but actually given the scene where it was clear he was ready to deal with the drinking problem, I think he'll be on the straight and narrow.


I actually think it might be Kate smoking a cigarette that leads to the house fire. And that's why Beth and Randall fake smoked after the adoption agency visit.

But I also think the fire might come after Jack's death. His belongings on the seat in the car next to Rebecca were pristine. So maybe he dies another way, and then Rebecca goes home and sees the house gone from the fire?


I don't remember this part - what happened?


NP. Beth had had it with the adoption talk, and not really being heard by Randall at the agency, so she stormed out and was clearing her head, pretending to smoke. Randall recognized what she was doing, and pretended to smoke himself. It must be a thing they do in times of stress.
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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who didn't think last night's episode was as good as last season? More fake emotions and more wooden dialogue.


You're not the only one. The writing seemed lazy. Characters announce what's going on through dialogue (more like multiple monologues) rather than showing feelings and actions. I started fast-forwarding through the long, talky scenes.


I did not like it either. All the characters seemed very one-dimensional.
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Anonymous wrote:I really wish they would kill Toby. i really can't sand him and find his entire relationship with Kate to be annoying and weird.


I thought I was the only one who felt this way. I hate him.


HE IS THE WORST.
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The thing that bothered me is not considering the impact an older child would have on their daughters. It's one thing to adopt an older child if you are already a child-less couple or your children are much older and out of the house. It's another thing to bring in an older child with their problems into a family with two young, impressionable daughters. What was Beth thinking in suggesting that? I get she wants to find a solution that makes Randall happy but you have to put your own daughters first!
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Anonymous wrote:The thing that bothered me is not considering the impact an older child would have on their daughters. It's one thing to adopt an older child if you are already a child-less couple or your children are much older and out of the house. It's another thing to bring in an older child with their problems into a family with two young, impressionable daughters. What was Beth thinking in suggesting that? I get she wants to find a solution that makes Randall happy but you have to put your own daughters first!


They had Kevin in their basement for a year, isn't that practice enough?

Seriously, I think that after having William and Kevin disrupt their lives, the girls are probably resilient but they might show some conflict in upcoming episodes if it does happen. The actors playing the girls are now regulars so expect to see them more this season.
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Anonymous wrote:The thing that bothered me is not considering the impact an older child would have on their daughters. It's one thing to adopt an older child if you are already a child-less couple or your children are much older and out of the house. It's another thing to bring in an older child with their problems into a family with two young, impressionable daughters. What was Beth thinking in suggesting that? I get she wants to find a solution that makes Randall happy but you have to put your own daughters first!


Because that is the point. They need new storylines and a baby would not do much. This will give us the story of three kids growing up together.

I thought the episode was ok. I do not mind the secret keeping, but I felt like it was not a great first episode. And I agree tha Toby is just getting annoying.
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Maybe they'll adopt a white child and it will be like opposite world!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I really wish they would kill Toby. i really can't sand him and find his entire relationship with Kate to be annoying and weird.


I thought I was the only one who felt this way. I hate him.


HE IS THE WORST.


I don't like that he's jealous of the twin relationship. I'm tired of Toby too!

I think Jack went in to save Kate from the fire.
Anonymous
Bored with this show. Not sure how long I can stick with it.
Anonymous
Fire caused by a cigarette Kate was smoking to "suppress her appetite"?
Anonymous
Toby is a closeted abuser. He appears to adore Kate, but he only wants Kate to himself. There is something off about him. He is very controlling and jealous of Kate's relationship with her family. I definitely think the writers could go deep into his anger issues and his past. I envision a scene with Kevin beating the crap out of him after emotionally abusing Kate. I want Toby to be viciously killed. I dislike his character the most.
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Anonymous wrote:The thing that bothered me is not considering the impact an older child would have on their daughters. It's one thing to adopt an older child if you are already a child-less couple or your children are much older and out of the house. It's another thing to bring in an older child with their problems into a family with two young, impressionable daughters. What was Beth thinking in suggesting that? I get she wants to find a solution that makes Randall happy but you have to put your own daughters first!


They had Kevin in their basement for a year, isn't that practice enough?

Seriously, I think that after having William and Kevin disrupt their lives, the girls are probably resilient but they might show some conflict in upcoming episodes if it does happen. The actors playing the girls are now regulars so expect to see them more this season.


It's more than whether or not the kids are resilient. It's a matter of keeping your kids safe.
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I had PTSD from Manchester by the Sea with the house fire.
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***Everyone in the show knows how Jack died...
Except us.
And Toby.

Are we Toby???????

That's what show writers fail on sometimes. When the story has a twist, they need to consider who knows and who doesn't know. And, if everyone knows but the viewer, they're simply being manipulative.

For example, if they told the story in order, it would be one thing. OR, if they told the story as character(s) learn, that's fine too. But if WE are Toby, I'll be mad
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