So Called White Priviledge

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Anonymous wrote:A friend posted a great meme last night re:Kim k and some psychologist asking us to feel bad for her since she was (allegedly) tied up by people pretending to be cops. Imagine the terror, imagine the distrust in authority she might experience!

But don't you dare have a distrust in authority, black people.

Kim is not white. She's of Armenian descent. Does she not count as a person of color? Why not? You sound racist.

Armenians are very much white as are persians,Turks and East Indians. Even though white came to be associated with Europe, there are millions of non european whites.

Only East Indians though? Other Indians count as POC? Do you mind citing a source for that? I just want to make sure I get it right.

Nikki Haley is East Indian but she can easily pass off as Italian, Spanish, Turkish,Greek origin. Indians range from European looking to African looking, but who really cares. Race in America is on its way out. Race is a human construct, it is not biological.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, who exactly benefits from white privilege. I can see myself a white, upper middle class male being born on third base, but what about white working class ethnic and people derogatorily referred to as rednecks and hillbillies. When I told my Polish - American friend she benefitted from white priviledge, she responded that she spend two years in a refugee camp before coming to the U.S. and she has earned every single thing she has and that no one can tell her she's "priviledged."

OP, seriously, are you always such a jerk to people? Why in the world would you make such a statement to a so-called friend?

Oh, and it's "privilege," honey, not "priviledge." If you are going to insult people, you can at least spell it correctly.

Haha. Consider yourself busted, OP. PP called you out for a spelling error!

I can't believe none of the other posters even noticed it!

I can. This is an issue that is of concern only to a certain age demographic, often referred to as Millennials. Constructs like rules of spelling are not their strong suit.

[Anonymous]

This thread is ridiculous and demonstrates how much emphasis is placed on “race” in our country.
I guess MLK’s dream is yet to be realized.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, who exactly benefits from white privilege. I can see myself a white, upper middle class male being born on third base, but what about white working class ethnic and people derogatorily referred to as rednecks and hillbillies. When I told my Polish - American friend she benefitted from white priviledge, she responded that she spend two years in a refugee camp before coming to the U.S. and she has earned every single thing she has and that no one can tell her she's "priviledged."

OP, seriously, are you always such a jerk to people? Why in the world would you make such a statement to a so-called friend?

Oh, and it's "privilege," honey, not "priviledge." If you are going to insult people, you can at least spell it correctly.

Haha. Consider yourself busted, OP. PP called you out for a spelling error!

I can't believe none of the other posters even noticed it!

I can. This is an issue that is of concern only to a certain age demographic, often referred to as Millennials. Constructs like rules of spelling are not their strong suit.

Did you notice that OP spelled privilege and priviledge two different ways? People may have thought it was a typo or a misspell. I can't believe you didn't notice that. Wow!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, who exactly benefits from white privilege. I can see myself a white, upper middle class male being born on third base, but what about white working class ethnic and people derogatorily referred to as rednecks and hillbillies. When I told my Polish - American friend she benefited from white privilege, she responded that she spend two years in a refugee camp before coming to the U.S. and she has earned every single thing she has and that no one can tell her she's "privileged."

You ask your Polish friend if she would like to wake up tomorrow as a person of color.
Same name, same job, same house, same spouse, same kids, same everything EXCEPT now she has to walk around 24/7 as a person of color as instead of white.

Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she loses her temper.
Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she oversleeps and gets to work late.
Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she forgets to pay for something nearly walks out with it.

Or

Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply steps into a store or goes to a job interview.
Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply waves down a cab or walks down the street.
Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply wants to get behind the wheel of her car and take a drive.

If your Polish friend is like, "No that's okay, I'll pass on being a person of color" then you can kindly tell her that she is full of shit - she knows got damn well she's privileged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, who exactly benefits from white privilege. I can see myself a white, upper middle class male being born on third base, but what about white working class ethnic and people derogatorily referred to as rednecks and hillbillies. When I told my Polish - American friend she benefitted from white priviledge, she responded that she spend two years in a refugee camp before coming to the U.S. and she has earned every single thing she has and that no one can tell her she's "priviledged."

OP, seriously, are you always such a jerk to people? Why in the world would you make such a statement to a so-called friend?

Oh, and it's "privilege," honey, not "priviledge." If you are going to insult people, you can at least spell it correctly.

Haha. Consider yourself busted, OP. PP called you out for a spelling error!

I can't believe none of the other posters even noticed it!

I can. This is an issue that is of concern only to a certain age demographic, often referred to as Millennials. Constructs like rules of spelling are not their strong suit.

Did you notice that OP spelled privilege and priviledge two different ways? People may have thought it was a typo or a misspell. I can't believe you didn't notice that. Wow!!

Many of us noticed it - we just didn’t make a big deal about it because we were able to comprehend based on context.
And, she spelled it wrong more than once in her OP.

[Anonymous]

White privilege is a way of continuing race-based programs like affirmative action in the of the elimination of structural racial discrimination. The generation that is in school now does not understand racial preferences - it makes no sense to them. So they need to be instructed on how they are the beneficiaries of 'privilege'. It probably has some merit, but it also serves to extend the division of everyone in the US by race. The generation growing up really could have been the first color blind one - lots of folks did not want to let that happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, who exactly benefits from white privilege. I can see myself a white, upper middle class male being born on third base, but what about white working class ethnic and people derogatorily referred to as rednecks and hillbillies. When I told my Polish - American friend she benefited from white privilege, she responded that she spend two years in a refugee camp before coming to the U.S. and she has earned every single thing she has and that no one can tell her she's "privileged."

You ask your Polish friend if she would like to wake up tomorrow as a person of color.
Same name, same job, same house, same spouse, same kids, same everything EXCEPT now she has to walk around 24/7 as a person of color as instead of white.

Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she loses her temper.
Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she oversleeps and gets to work late.
Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she forgets to pay for something nearly walks out with it.

Or

Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply steps into a store or goes to a job interview.
Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply waves down a cab or walks down the street.
Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply wants to get behind the wheel of her car and take a drive.

If your Polish friend is like, "No that's okay, I'll pass on being a person of color" then you can kindly tell her that she is full of shit - she knows got damn well she's privileged.

You are the one FOS. Some of us simply like being who we are - REGARDLESS of the color of our skin. We just happen to enjoy our life as it is.
What is wrong with some of you people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are the one FOS. Some of us simply like being who we are - REGARDLESS of the color of our skin. We just happen to enjoy our life as it is.
What is wrong with some of you people?

Definitely easier to like life as it is if you're not burdened with being profiled and stigmatized by being stereotyped and criminalized because of the color of your skin...etc. etc.
Yeah - life is freaking great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White privilege is a way of continuing race-based programs like affirmative action in the of the elimination of structural racial discrimination. The generation that is in school now does not understand racial preferences - it makes no sense to them. So they need to be instructed on how they are the beneficiaries of 'privilege'. It probably has some merit, but it also serves to extend the division of everyone in the US by race. The generation growing up really could have been the first color blind one - lots of folks did not want to let that happen.

Agree. Except that I think it's never going to go away. Being a POC is a way to achieve a higher status, just like being beautiful or having wealth or connections. Who wants to give up their higher status, no matter the source?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, who exactly benefits from white privilege. I can see myself a white, upper middle class male being born on third base, but what about white working class ethnic and people derogatorily referred to as rednecks and hillbillies. When I told my Polish - American friend she benefited from white privilege, she responded that she spend two years in a refugee camp before coming to the U.S. and she has earned every single thing she has and that no one can tell her she's "privileged."

You ask your Polish friend if she would like to wake up tomorrow as a person of color.
Same name, same job, same house, same spouse, same kids, same everything EXCEPT now she has to walk around 24/7 as a person of color as instead of white.

Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she loses her temper.
Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she oversleeps and gets to work late.
Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she forgets to pay for something nearly walks out with it.

Or

Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply steps into a store or goes to a job interview.
Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply waves down a cab or walks down the street.
Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply wants to get behind the wheel of her car and take a drive.

If your Polish friend is like, "No that's okay, I'll pass on being a person of color" then you can kindly tell her that she is full of shit - she knows got damn well she's privileged.

I'd rather be a person of color when applying to college, when applying for scholarships, when applying to top law schools, when interviewing with law firms as a summer associate, and when trying to make partner. Firms are trying so hard to up their diversity statistics, that being a person of color is a real advantage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, who exactly benefits from white privilege. I can see myself a white, upper middle class male being born on third base, but what about white working class ethnic and people derogatorily referred to as rednecks and hillbillies. When I told my Polish - American friend she benefited from white privilege, she responded that she spend two years in a refugee camp before coming to the U.S. and she has earned every single thing she has and that no one can tell her she's "privileged."

You ask your Polish friend if she would like to wake up tomorrow as a person of color.
Same name, same job, same house, same spouse, same kids, same everything EXCEPT now she has to walk around 24/7 as a person of color as instead of white.

Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she loses her temper.
Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she oversleeps and gets to work late.
Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she forgets to pay for something nearly walks out with it.

Or

Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply steps into a store or goes to a job interview.
Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply waves down a cab or walks down the street.
Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply wants to get behind the wheel of her car and take a drive.

If your Polish friend is like, "No that's okay, I'll pass on being a person of color" then you can kindly tell her that she is full of shit - she knows got damn well she's privileged.

But what color is she?!?! Pink? Green? Fushia? I saw a lovely shade of pumpkin yesterday that I wouldn't mind trying....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:White privilege is a way of continuing race-based programs like affirmative action in the of the elimination of structural racial discrimination. The generation that is in school now does not understand racial preferences - it makes no sense to them. So they need to be instructed on how they are the beneficiaries of 'privilege'. It probably has some merit, but it also serves to extend the division of everyone in the US by race. The generation growing up really could have been the first color blind one - lots of folks did not want to let that happen.

Agree. Except that I think it's never going to go away. Being a POC is a way to achieve a higher status, just like being beautiful or having wealth or connections. Who wants to give up their higher status, no matter the source?

Oh yeah...POC definitely have a "higher status" when it comes to things like acquiring detentions and suspensions in elementary school - white kids don't get those too easy. Who wants to give that up right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:White privilege is a way of continuing race-based programs like affirmative action in the of the elimination of structural racial discrimination. The generation that is in school now does not understand racial preferences - it makes no sense to them. So they need to be instructed on how they are the beneficiaries of 'privilege'. It probably has some merit, but it also serves to extend the division of everyone in the US by race. The generation growing up really could have been the first color blind one - lots of folks did not want to let that happen.

Agree. Except that I think it's never going to go away. Being a POC is a way to achieve a higher status, just like being beautiful or having wealth or connections. Who wants to give up their higher status, no matter the source?

Oh yeah...POC definitely have a "higher status" when it comes to things like acquiring detentions and suspensions in elementary school - white kids don't get those too easy. Who wants to give that up right?

And people who are beautiful may be more likely to be harassed on the street or considered to lack substance. But most of us would still prefer to be beautiful rather than unattractive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, who exactly benefits from white privilege. I can see myself a white, upper middle class male being born on third base, but what about white working class ethnic and people derogatorily referred to as rednecks and hillbillies. When I told my Polish - American friend she benefited from white privilege, she responded that she spend two years in a refugee camp before coming to the U.S. and she has earned every single thing she has and that no one can tell her she's "privileged."

You ask your Polish friend if she would like to wake up tomorrow as a person of color.
Same name, same job, same house, same spouse, same kids, same everything EXCEPT now she has to walk around 24/7 as a person of color as instead of white.

Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she loses her temper.
Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she oversleeps and gets to work late.
Ask her if she would rather be a person of color every single time she makes a mistake (as we all do) and say she forgets to pay for something nearly walks out with it.

Or

Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply steps into a store or goes to a job interview.
Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply waves down a cab or walks down the street.
Ask her if she would like to be a person of color even when she doesn't make a mistake...how about when she simply wants to get behind the wheel of her car and take a drive.

If your Polish friend is like, "No that's okay, I'll pass on being a person of color" then you can kindly tell her that she is full of shit - she knows got damn well she's privileged.

I'd rather be a person of color when applying to college, when applying for scholarships, when applying to top law schools, when interviewing with law firms as a summer associate, and when trying to make partner. Firms are trying so hard to up their diversity statistics, that being a person of color is a real advantage.

Lol - yeah you wanna be a person of color when applying for shit and interviewing for shit but I'm not talking about bits and pieces here and there where "in theory" being a minority can be an advantage.
I'm talking about every hour of every day of your life being a person of color and dealing with the prejudices and presumptions and biases and bigotry that comes into play in your everyday existence to the point that you can't even walk into a store and buy a pack of gum without the clerk staring you down because they just automatically assume you're a criminal.
I'm talking about every hour of every day of your life being a person of color and dealing with the prejudices and presumptions and biases and bigotry that comes into play in your everyday existence to the point that you can't even carry on a conversation with another parent at your child's school without them being surprised at the mention of your husband because they just automatically assume you're a single mother.
That's the epitome of being privileged...the fact that you aren't even cognizant of just how ignorant you are about what others endure and you think just because your everyday existence is all smiles and laughter theirs must be too.
"What are they complaining about", right?
The legacy of people of color in this country is rooted in struggle and in overcoming those struggles and that legacy hasn't changed one bit just because of a few Affirmative Action programs or because of more efforts to encourage diversity - those things don't have shit to do with the day to day struggles of being a person of color in this country and people of color are perceived and treated and THAT is what privileged people just don't seem to understand. Life is in essence a compilation of our day to day experiences and for people of color the reality is that their day to day experiences are all the more stressful and all the more difficult because of the skin they're in.