So Called White Priviledge

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Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.

You tell your Polish friend to walk into a bank and apply for a loan, any loan, from a personal to a small business or a home equity and then you tell them to compare their interest rate to that of a person of color who has an equal if not better credit score (assuming the person of color even got approved).

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Anonymous wrote:So, who exactly benefits from white privilege. I can see myself a white, upper middle class male being born on third base, but what about white working class ethnic and people derogatorily referred to as rednecks and hillbillies. When I told my Polish - American friend she benefitted from white priviledge, she responded that she spend two years in a refugee camp before coming to the U.S. and she has earned every single thing she has and that no one can tell her she's "priviledged."

THIS, in large part, is what is driving Trump's popularity. Those of us who live in the DC-area bubble, where an income of $100k is considered merely OK, have a very skewed idea of the struggles that truly average whites - those with HS degrees and wages of $15 or $20/hr - deal with in their daily lives. (And that describes the majority - most people in this country are either lower-middle or working class). They see all the concern - and financial benefits - go to the truly impoverished, who in many cases live an equal or even better lifestyle than they, thanks to gov't assistance. That's exacerbated by the gov't support given to illegal immigrants (largely through K-12 school support and in-state tuition but also through policies such as sanctuary cities.) They are simply fed up...and thus, the Trump revolution.

If all the advantages went to the poor, there would be NO disadvantaged.

And if you think people who are receiving some government assistance are living the lifestyle of Trump, you are delusional. Your anger is misdirected. Ask Trump why he finds it okay to have a gold plated toilet seat and faucets while the very people you say are struggling did not get paid by him.

The so-called Trump revolution is about Trump becoming more powerful. If you think he will do anything that might diminish his bottom line, you are sadly mistaken. Trump's popularity is based on a hatred of anyone different and the perception that the spoils go to illegal and minorities which couldn't be further from the truth. The spoils go to the wealthy, and Trump is a perfect example of that, past and present.

First, you say my anger is misplaced. I wasn't talking about myself. I was explaining how working class whites feel, and why they are angry. (Actually, you sound sort of angry.) And second, I never said people on gov't assistance live the life of Trump! But there have been studies that show it would take $x amount of dollars in income to equate to the value of gov't asst (sub housing, food stamps, welfare, etc.), and the amount was quite a bit higher than many working class people make.

If only so many of those working class people in certain didn't keep voting for the party dedicated to limiting/eliminating the social safety net, opposing any increase to the minimum wage, opposing support for medical care, etc. then maybe they'd actually have programs to help themselves, too.

So you're saying that these people should vote for policies that would give THEM some government benefits, too. The problem is that the country is in $20 trillion of debt and simply can't afford more entitlement programs. There's no good way to pay for it. (And "tax the rich" won't work.....not enough rich to cover it.)

[Anonymous]

Haha, I have seen PT jobs in professional jobs around here offering $12-15 an hour. I could make more babysitting.

We make just over 6 figures and struggle to get car repairs and go out to fancy dinners. This weekend, in fact, we will likely be eating beans and rice because we only have a couple dollars to our names.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, who exactly benefits from white privilege. I can see myself a white, upper middle class male being born on third base, but what about white working class ethnic and people derogatorily referred to as rednecks and hillbillies. When I told my Polish - American friend she benefitted from white priviledge, she responded that she spend two years in a refugee camp before coming to the U.S. and she has earned every single thing she has and that no one can tell her she's "priviledged."

You're racist!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Haha, I have seen PT jobs in professional jobs around here offering $12-15 an hour. I could make more babysitting.

We make just over 6 figures and struggle to get car repairs and go out to fancy dinners. This weekend, in fact, we will likely be eating beans and rice because we only have a couple dollars to our names.

That's jobs around HERE. And if you're struggling on $100k plus, you can imagine how Joe Blow in flyover country feels with his $18/hr job.

[Anonymous]

Your friend probably did not face housing discrimination or job discrimination and obviously made it into your upper middle class social circle where you apparently sit around and talk about how non-whites complain too much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.

Why would you tell someone to commit a crime? Committing crimes is objectively bad. I don't think anyone should do it.

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Anonymous wrote:So, who exactly benefits from white privilege. I can see myself a white, upper middle class male being born on third base, but what about white working class ethnic and people derogatorily referred to as rednecks and hillbillies. When I told my Polish - American friend she benefitted from white priviledge, she responded that she spend two years in a refugee camp before coming to the U.S. and she has earned every single thing she has and that no one can tell her she's "priviledged."

And if you think people who are receiving some government assistance are living the lifestyle of Trump, you are delusional. Your anger is misdirected. Ask Trump why he finds it okay to have a gold plated toilet seat and faucets while the very people you say are struggling did not get paid by him.

First, you say my anger is misplaced. I wasn't talking about myself. I was explaining how class whites feel, and why they are angry. (Actually, you sound sort of angry.) And second, I never said people on gov't assistance live the life of Trump! But there have been studies that show it would take $x amount of dollars in income to equate to the value of gov't asst (sub housing, food stamps, welfare, etc.), and the amount was quite a bit higher than many working class people make.

You are not talking about yourself but explaining how whites feel. So, you are the 'voice' of those who are not upper-middle class like yourself. Actually YOU sound sort of angry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.

Why would you tell someone to commit a crime? Committing crimes is objectively bad. I don't think anyone should do it.

Not the PP but you miss the point that was being made. Everyone knows crime is "objectively bad." The point being made was the penalties can be different. That is white privilege.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your friend probably did not face housing discrimination or job discrimination and obviously made it into your upper middle class social circle where you apparently sit around and talk about how non-whites complain too much.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.

You tell your Polish friend to walk into a bank and apply for a loan, any loan, from a personal to a small business or a home equity and then you tell them to compare their interest rate to that of a person of color who has an equal if not better credit score (assuming the person of color even got approved).

Goodness. Now your Polish friend has to commit crimes and apply for loans!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, who exactly benefits from white privilege. I can see myself a white, upper middle class male being born on third base, but what about white working class ethnic and people derogatorily referred to as rednecks and hillbillies. When I told my Polish - American friend she benefitted from white priviledge, she responded that she spend two years in a refugee camp before coming to the U.S. and she has earned every single thing she has and that no one can tell her she's "priviledged."

THIS, in large part, is what is driving Trump's popularity. Those of us who live in the DC-area bubble, where an income of $100k is considered merely OK, have a very skewed idea of the struggles that truly average whites - those with HS degrees and wages of $15 or $20/hr - deal with in their daily lives. (And that describes the majority - most people in this country are either lower-middle or working class). They see all the concern - and financial benefits - go to the truly impoverished, who in many cases live an equal or even better lifestyle than they, thanks to gov't assistance. That's exacerbated by the gov't support given to illegal immigrants (largely through K-12 school support and in-state tuition but also through policies such as sanctuary cities.) They are simply fed up...and thus, the Trump revolution.

If all the advantages went to the poor, there would be NO disadvantaged.

And if you think people who are receiving some government assistance are living the lifestyle of Trump, you are delusional. Your anger is misdirected. Ask Trump why he finds it okay to have a gold plated toilet seat and faucets while the very people you say are struggling did not get paid by him.

The so-called Trump revolution is about Trump becoming more powerful. If you think he will do anything that might diminish his bottom line, you are sadly mistaken. Trump's popularity is based on a hatred of anyone different and the perception that the spoils go to illegal and minorities which couldn't be further from the truth. The spoils go to the wealthy, and Trump is a perfect example of that, past and present.

First, you say my anger is misplaced. I wasn't talking about myself. I was explaining how working class whites feel, and why they are angry. (Actually, you sound sort of angry.) And second, I never said people on gov't assistance live the life of Trump! But there have been studies that show it would take $x amount of dollars in income to equate to the value of gov't asst (sub housing, food stamps, welfare, etc.), and the amount was quite a bit higher than many working class people make.

If only so many of those working class people in certain didn't keep voting for the party dedicated to limiting/eliminating the social safety net, opposing any increase to the minimum wage, opposing support for medical care, etc. then maybe they'd actually have programs to help themselves, too.

So you're saying that these people should vote for policies that would give THEM some government benefits, too. The problem is that the country is in $20 trillion of debt and simply can't afford more entitlement programs. There's no good way to pay for it. (And "tax the rich" won't work.....not enough rich to cover it.)

Trump is a perfect example of the rich not paying taxes. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.

You tell your Polish friend to walk into a bank and apply for a loan, any loan, from a personal to a small business or a home equity and then you tell them to compare their interest rate to that of a person of color who has an equal if not better credit score (assuming the person of color even got approved).

Goodness. Now your Polish friend has to commit crimes and apply for loans!

Reading comprehension is definitely not your strong suit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haha, I have seen PT jobs in professional jobs around here offering $12-15 an hour. I could make more babysitting.

We make just over 6 figures and struggle to get car repairs and go out to fancy dinners. This weekend, in fact, we will likely be eating beans and rice because we only have a couple dollars to our names.

That's jobs around HERE. And if you're struggling on $100k plus, you can imagine how Joe Blow in flyover country feels with his $18/hr job.

Their housing and other cost of living is much lower.

My point was more that a lot of us are just getting by.

I have one of the types you're asking me to picture in my family. He's over 40 living at home with the 2 kids he never should have had. He makes incredibly dumb decisions with his money. Like getting as the family car when they barely were able to move be into an apartment on their own. At the time when gas costs were sky high.

[Anonymous]

That was supposed to say getting a hummer as the family car