So Called White Priviledge

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Anonymous wrote:Question: Are men more privileged than women in our society?
Answer: Yes
Question: So does that mean all men are sexist?
Answer: No it just means men have more advantages and don't have as many challenges in our society as women. It would be sexist to DENY the fact and therefore refuse to empathize with women who don't have such advantages and have to face such challenges.

Question: Are whites more privileged than people of color in our society?
Answer: Yes
Question: So does that mean all white people are racist?
Answer: No it just means whites have more advantages and don't have as many challenges in our society as people of color. It would be racist to DENY the fact and therefore refuse to empathize with people of color who don't have such advantages and have to face such challenges.

This. Thank you.

Why do we see so many threads and posts whining about white privilege but not nearly as many about male privilege?

I'm not a woman so my opinion is jaded somewhat, but I would guess that the reason there isn't as much resentment and/or protest about male privilege is because there is a sizable segment of the female community who aren't outraged by it.
I think there are a lot of women who may not necessarily openly acknowledge that the prefer men have more advantages in life, they consciously or subconsciously accept traditional gender roles and the privileges that come with being a man. Many women believe that men are supposed to make more money. Many women believe men are supposed to have more authority. Many women believe men are supposed to be the warriors and rulers and women are supposed to be the nurturers and subordinates.

There is nowhere near the same level of acceptance with regard to traditional/stereotypical roles when it comes to white privilege.
There is no sizable segment of minorities who aren't outraged by the fact that they get treated unfairly because of their skin color.
You would be hard pressed to find people of color that believe whites are supposed to make more money and whites are supposed to have more authority. You'd be hard pressed to find any people of color that believe whites are supposed to get the benefit of the doubt and be respected as individuals while people of color are supposed to be regarded with suspicion and not seen as individuals.

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Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.

That's because my Polish friend doesn't have a 4 page long rap sheet of convictions

Neither does Tim Scott the US senator from, SC. Yet he was stopped so many times as a senator and congressman. Even a Black senator isn't immune to cop harassment. How many WHITE US senator have ever been stopped by cops? THAT IS WHITE PRIVILEGE. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-scott-capitol-racism-senate-225507

I can't keep track of the countless times in the past few years whearas Blacks have made up incidents for no reason other than to claim racism.
i.e. The Black girls on the bus that took weeks for the video to be publicly shown that they were lying
The Black that did the hanging drawing in the University Library.
Countless situations.

Yes, what I'm saying is, that it's more than likely the Senator was creating the situation so that he could be seen as going to bat for the Blacks. I'd love to see the details of each stop.
Was he:
1 driving around in quiet wealthier neighborhoods at 3 am ? a white person would be stopped also
2 driving by a cop just to give a big racism smirk ?
3 intentionally driving with a broken tail light ? all white people are stopped for this also dummy
4 driving like a dumbass ? white people are also stopped for acting like an idiot behind a wheel

who are you? you seriously have an anger issue.

YES, I am ANGRY. Angry that I'm accused of being racist. It's simply a way for Black people to shirk their responsibilities for there poor performance in Society. Get off the white privilege BS and do something about the behavior that makes white people as well as other Black people question your motives and intentions. It's not my fault you grew up without a Father. Not my fault you flunked out of school because you though joining a gang was the smarter thing to do. Not my fault you can't obey simple commands from a Police Officer.

+ 1 I agree with the PP. Even if we assume that there's some subtle form of white privilege, I'm seeing that black people use that as an excuse as to why, as a group, they are not doing as well as whites - rather than examine how they themselves contribute to unequal outcomes. Basically, it's a way of saying it's always someone else's fault. If blacks would do ONE thing that the majority of whites do, it would go a long way to reducing poverty, discouraging crime, creating families less dependent on welfare, and negating the stereotypes they are fighting against: Get married before you have a baby.

Your example of using whites as models is WRONG by any measure of statistics. ASIANS are Model US citizens. From on use Asians as a model to follow for whites and blacks.

PP. So using whites as a model is wrong by any measure of statistics? Sorry, but I was correct. Whites are economically much better off than blacks, and last I looked, that was a measure. Much, although certainly not all, can be traced to derailed educations and poorer single-parent households resulting from a high out-of-wedlock birth rate. (I do agree that Asians are even higher in achievement, as are Jews. Out-of-wedlock births are frowned upon in groups. To put it mildly.)
http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/27/news/economy/racial-wealth-gap-blacks-whites/

So you are WRONG to use whites ,as you agreed, Asians are at the top. Start using Asians as benchmark since they better than Whites in every measure.

No, I'm right, because this entire discussion is about white privilege, so it's an apt comparison to compare white outcomes to blacks. If we were talking about Asian Privilege, then you'd have something there. (Unless of course you're simply trying to point out that whites shouldn't get all full if themselves, since Asians are better. A way to put whites in their place, perhaps?)

Asians are negatively affected by affirmative action because it gives them fewer seats in colleges than what they deserve on merits alone. So if you do away with affirmative action, most of the benefits will go to asians NOT whites as whites imagine.

My point is, when you use benchmarks use the TOP most performer, not a mediocre performer. You don't aspire to become mediocre, you aspire to become the best.

But we are NOT talking about Asian Privilege. I'm hearing all this talk about White Privilege, and BLAMING it for various shortcomings of blacks, so naturally I'd use whites- to-blacks for the comparison. Your insistence that we use a different race (Asians ) when making points about whites doesn't make sense, unless it is to make the put-down that whites are mediocre (which you did quite obviously).

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Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.

That's because my Polish friend doesn't have a 4 page long rap sheet of convictions

Neither does Tim Scott the US senator from, SC. Yet he was stopped so many times as a senator and congressman. Even a Black senator isn't immune to cop harassment. How many WHITE US senator have ever been stopped by cops? THAT IS WHITE PRIVILEGE. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-scott-capitol-racism-senate-225507

I can't keep track of the countless times in the past few years whearas Blacks have made up incidents for no reason other than to claim racism.
i.e. The Black girls on the bus that took weeks for the video to be publicly shown that they were lying
The Black that did the hanging drawing in the University Library.
Countless situations.

Yes, what I'm saying is, that it's more than likely the Senator was creating the situation so that he could be seen as going to bat for the Blacks. I'd love to see the details of each stop.
Was he:
1 driving around in quiet wealthier neighborhoods at 3 am ? a white person would be stopped also
2 driving by a cop just to give a big racism smirk ?
3 intentionally driving with a broken tail light ? all white people are stopped for this also dummy
4 driving like a dumbass ? white people are also stopped for acting like an idiot behind a wheel

who are you? you seriously have an anger issue.

YES, I am ANGRY. Angry that I'm accused of being racist. It's simply a way for Black people to shirk their responsibilities for there poor performance in Society. Get off the white privilege BS and do something about the behavior that makes white people as well as other Black people question your motives and intentions. It's not my fault you grew up without a Father. Not my fault you flunked out of school because you though joining a gang was the smarter thing to do. Not my fault you can't obey simple commands from a Police Officer.

+ 1 I agree with the PP. Even if we assume that there's some subtle form of white privilege, I'm seeing that black people use that as an excuse as to why, as a group, they are not doing as well as whites - rather than examine how they themselves contribute to unequal outcomes. Basically, it's a way of saying it's always someone else's fault. If blacks would do ONE thing that the majority of whites do, it would go a long way to reducing poverty, discouraging crime, creating families less dependent on welfare, and negating the stereotypes they are fighting against: Get married before you have a baby.

Your example of using whites as models is WRONG by any measure of statistics. ASIANS are Model US citizens. From on use Asians as a model to follow for whites and blacks.

PP. So using whites as a model is wrong by any measure of statistics? Sorry, but I was correct. Whites are economically much better off than blacks, and last I looked, that was a measure. Much, although certainly not all, can be traced to derailed educations and poorer single-parent households resulting from a high out-of-wedlock birth rate. (I do agree that Asians are even higher in achievement, as are Jews. Out-of-wedlock births are frowned upon in groups. To put it mildly.)
http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/27/news/economy/racial-wealth-gap-blacks-whites/

So if you agree that Asians are even higher in achievement than whites, then why are you using whites as benchmark. That is wrong. Start using Asians as your benchmark.

So you must be fine with asians taking over the CEO jobs and becoming the economic pillar of America, right? Do you agree that we need more smart asian immigration? Asians are the most educated, the wealthiest, the most with great family values and rarely have more than 2 kids. So why are so many white americans angry about asians also?

Clever, sneaky, and greedy is what most i met are like but ibget that you have to be that way to get white people to like you and look up to you. Lot of news reports of rich chinese buying up real estate in america and australia causing a bubble and making home ownership for actual residents impossible.

There you go. So when a white man has those very same qualities you want him be president. The asians have learned capitalism very well and beating white guys at their own game. Whats wrong with it, don't you like capitalism?

Actually majority of asians have been voting democrat for years now. Reason is probably to keep cheap labor for small businesses.

No, the reason is the ANTI-Minority tone and speech by the republican party. Trump really made it worse by directly appealing to the racists. Asians are also mostly social liberals, so the GOP abortion politics doesn't help. They are affected by taxes BUT wealthy and upper middle class Asians are fine with paying a slightly higher tax rate for better social facilities to take care of the poor.

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Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.

That's because my Polish friend doesn't have a 4 page long rap sheet of convictions

Neither does Tim Scott the US senator from, SC. Yet he was stopped so many times as a senator and congressman. Even a Black senator isn't immune to cop harassment. How many WHITE US senator have ever been stopped by cops? THAT IS WHITE PRIVILEGE. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-scott-capitol-racism-senate-225507

I can't keep track of the countless times in the past few years whearas Blacks have made up incidents for no reason other than to claim racism.
i.e. The Black girls on the bus that took weeks for the video to be publicly shown that they were lying
The Black that did the hanging drawing in the University Library.
Countless situations.

Yes, what I'm saying is, that it's more than likely the Senator was creating the situation so that he could be seen as going to bat for the Blacks. I'd love to see the details of each stop.
Was he:
1 driving around in quiet wealthier neighborhoods at 3 am ? a white person would be stopped also
2 driving by a cop just to give a big racism smirk ?
3 intentionally driving with a broken tail light ? all white people are stopped for this also dummy
4 driving like a dumbass ? white people are also stopped for acting like an idiot behind a wheel

who are you? you seriously have an anger issue.

YES, I am ANGRY. Angry that I'm accused of being racist. It's simply a way for Black people to shirk their responsibilities for there poor performance in Society. Get off the white privilege BS and do something about the behavior that makes white people as well as other Black people question your motives and intentions. It's not my fault you grew up without a Father. Not my fault you flunked out of school because you though joining a gang was the smarter thing to do. Not my fault you can't obey simple commands from a Police Officer.

+ 1 I agree with the PP. Even if we assume that there's some subtle form of white privilege, I'm seeing that black people use that as an excuse as to why, as a group, they are not doing as well as whites - rather than examine how they themselves contribute to unequal outcomes. Basically, it's a way of saying it's always someone else's fault. If blacks would do ONE thing that the majority of whites do, it would go a long way to reducing poverty, discouraging crime, creating families less dependent on welfare, and negating the stereotypes they are fighting against: Get married before you have a baby.

Your example of using whites as models is WRONG by any measure of statistics. ASIANS are Model US citizens. From on use Asians as a model to follow for whites and blacks.

PP. So using whites as a model is wrong by any measure of statistics? Sorry, but I was correct. Whites are economically much better off than blacks, and last I looked, that was a measure. Much, although certainly not all, can be traced to derailed educations and poorer single-parent households resulting from a high out-of-wedlock birth rate. (I do agree that Asians are even higher in achievement, as are Jews. Out-of-wedlock births are frowned upon in groups. To put it mildly.)
http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/27/news/economy/racial-wealth-gap-blacks-whites/

So if you agree that Asians are even higher in achievement than whites, then why are you using whites as benchmark. That is wrong. Start using Asians as your benchmark.

So you must be fine with asians taking over the CEO jobs and becoming the economic pillar of America, right? Do you agree that we need more smart asian immigration? Asians are the most educated, the wealthiest, the most with great family values and rarely have more than 2 kids. So why are so many white americans angry about asians also?

Clever, sneaky, and greedy is what most i met are like but ibget that you have to be that way to get white people to like you and look up to you. Lot of news reports of rich chinese buying up real estate in america and australia causing a bubble and making home ownership for actual residents impossible.

There you go. So when a white man has those very same qualities you want him be president. The asians have learned capitalism very well and beating white guys at their own game. Whats wrong with it, don't you like capitalism?

Actually majority of asians have been voting democrat for years now. Reason is probably to keep cheap labor for small businesses.

No, the reason is the ANTI-Minority tone and speech by the republican party. Trump really made it worse by directly appealing to the racists. Asians are also mostly social liberals, so the GOP abortion politics doesn't help. They are affected by taxes BUT wealthy and upper middle class Asians are fine with paying a slightly higher tax rate for better social facilities to take care of the poor.

It's often been said that the Republicans like the lower-class immigrants for the cheap labor, and the Democrats like them die their (eventual) votes. I tend to believe that.

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Anonymous wrote:With all your education (assuming this from your self-description), I don't think you understand that white privilege is not just economic.

I'm not a big wikipedia fan but this basic definition says it all..."... a term for societal privileges that benefit people identified as white in Western countries, beyond what is commonly experienced by non-white people under the same social, political, or economic circumstances."

In other words, what is acceptable and desirous for your well-being (economic or non-economic) should also be afforded to those who are none-white.

Your Polish-American friend who spent two hellish years in a refugee camp can still go into a department store and most likely won't be followed, can most likely not be criminally stereotyped and assumed to be on welfare, etc. The poorest white "redneck and hillbillies" in your comment can easily walk through a Potomac neighborhood with so much as a glance versus someone non-white where the possibility of police being called is much greater (even though neither class had any nefarious behavior in mind). That is white privilege.

Again, white privilege is not confined to social-economic.

You're a fucking idiot.

Any African American in this country who feels pity for him/herself b/c all eyes are on him/her in Macy's has NOTHING over some person in a refugee camp.

And I'm sorry, but there are plenty of working class whites who will be viewed as being outsiders in MANY white areas. It's SES.

again - You are a fucking moron.

That is all.

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Great example OP. True anecdote - my white refugee raised insanely poor (stuff of novels) Aunt did not get the same scholarship that her Puerto Rican "Hispanic" (European heritage) husband received who was from a wealthy and privileged background received. I guess they looked different.

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Can we discuss black privilege? There are parts of DC, Chicago, Atlanta, New Orleans power structure where it could be very difficult to get a job as a non AA.

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Anonymous wrote:With all your education (assuming this from your self-description), I don't think you understand that white privilege is not just economic.

I'm not a big wikipedia fan but this basic definition says it all..."... a term for societal privileges that benefit people identified as white in Western countries, beyond what is commonly experienced by non-white people under the same social, political, or economic circumstances."

In other words, what is acceptable and desirous for your well-being (economic or non-economic) should also be afforded to those who are none-white.

Your Polish-American friend who spent two hellish years in a refugee camp can still go into a department store and most likely won't be followed, can most likely not be criminally stereotyped and assumed to be on welfare, etc. The poorest white "redneck and hillbillies" in your comment can easily walk through a Potomac neighborhood with so much as a glance versus someone non-white where the possibility of police being called is much greater (even though neither class had any nefarious behavior in mind). That is white privilege.

Again, white privilege is not confined to social-economic.

You're a fucking idiot.

Any African American in this country who feels pity for him/herself b/c all eyes are on him/her in Macy's has NOTHING over some person in a refugee camp.

And I'm sorry, but there are plenty of working class whites who will be viewed as being outsiders in MANY white areas. It's SES.

again - You are a fucking moron.

That is all.

Agree. Why does it always seem that blacks are in contest with who has it worse, and they always want to be acknowledged as the "winner"? Because it's an excuse to avoid taking at least SOME responsibility for their own failings. Whitey is getting sick of it!

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Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.

That's because my Polish friend doesn't have a 4 page long rap sheet of convictions

Neither does Tim Scott the US senator from, SC. Yet he was stopped so many times as a senator and congressman. Even a Black senator isn't immune to cop harassment. How many WHITE US senator have ever been stopped by cops? THAT IS WHITE PRIVILEGE. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-scott-capitol-racism-senate-225507

I can't keep track of the countless times in the past few years whearas Blacks have made up incidents for no reason other than to claim racism.
i.e. The Black girls on the bus that took weeks for the video to be publicly shown that they were lying
The Black that did the hanging drawing in the University Library.
Countless situations.

Yes, what I'm saying is, that it's more than likely the Senator was creating the situation so that he could be seen as going to bat for the Blacks. I'd love to see the details of each stop.
Was he:
1 driving around in quiet wealthier neighborhoods at 3 am ? a white person would be stopped also
2 driving by a cop just to give a big racism smirk ?
3 intentionally driving with a broken tail light ? all white people are stopped for this also dummy
4 driving like a dumbass ? white people are also stopped for acting like an idiot behind a wheel

who are you? you seriously have an anger issue.

YES, I am ANGRY. Angry that I'm accused of being racist. It's simply a way for Black people to shirk their responsibilities for there poor performance in Society. Get off the white privilege BS and do something about the behavior that makes white people as well as other Black people question your motives and intentions. It's not my fault you grew up without a Father. Not my fault you flunked out of school because you though joining a gang was the smarter thing to do. Not my fault you can't obey simple commands from a Police Officer.

+ 1 I agree with the PP. Even if we assume that there's some subtle form of white privilege, I'm seeing that black people use that as an excuse as to why, as a group, they are not doing as well as whites - rather than examine how they themselves contribute to unequal outcomes. Basically, it's a way of saying it's always someone else's fault. If blacks would do ONE thing that the majority of whites do, it would go a long way to reducing poverty, discouraging crime, creating families less dependent on welfare, and negating the stereotypes they are fighting against: Get married before you have a baby.

Your example of using whites as models is WRONG by any measure of statistics. ASIANS are Model US citizens. From on use Asians as a model to follow for whites and blacks.

PP. So using whites as a model is wrong by any measure of statistics? Sorry, but I was correct. Whites are economically much better off than blacks, and last I looked, that was a measure. Much, although certainly not all, can be traced to derailed educations and poorer single-parent households resulting from a high out-of-wedlock birth rate. (I do agree that Asians are even higher in achievement, as are Jews. Out-of-wedlock births are frowned upon in groups. To put it mildly.)
http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/27/news/economy/racial-wealth-gap-blacks-whites/

So if you agree that Asians are even higher in achievement than whites, then why are you using whites as benchmark. That is wrong. Start using Asians as your benchmark.

So you must be fine with asians taking over the CEO jobs and becoming the economic pillar of America, right? Do you agree that we need more smart asian immigration? Asians are the most educated, the wealthiest, the most with great family values and rarely have more than 2 kids. So why are so many white americans angry about asians also?

Clever, sneaky, and greedy is what most i met are like but ibget that you have to be that way to get white people to like you and look up to you. Lot of news reports of rich chinese buying up real estate in america and australia causing a bubble and making home ownership for actual residents impossible.

There you go. So when a white man has those very same qualities you want him be president. The asians have learned capitalism very well and beating white guys at their own game. Whats wrong with it, don't you like capitalism?

Actually majority of asians have been voting democrat for years now. Reason is probably to keep cheap labor for small businesses.

No, the reason is the ANTI-Minority tone and speech by the republican party. Trump really made it worse by directly appealing to the racists. Asians are also mostly social liberals, so the GOP abortion politics doesn't help. They are affected by taxes BUT wealthy and upper middle class Asians are fine with paying a slightly higher tax rate for better social facilities to take care of the poor.

It's often been said that the Republicans like the lower-class immigrants for the cheap labor, and the Democrats like them die their (eventual) votes. I tend to believe that.

But asian immigrants are mostly legal and highly educated and make lots of money. So they should be welcomed right, instead why are whites resentful about model minority immigrants? Are they feeling threatened that their position as the top dog will be usurped by them?

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Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.

That's because my Polish friend doesn't have a 4 page long rap sheet of convictions

Neither does Tim Scott the US senator from, SC. Yet he was stopped so many times as a senator and congressman. Even a Black senator isn't immune to cop harassment. How many WHITE US senator have ever been stopped by cops? THAT IS WHITE PRIVILEGE. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-scott-capitol-racism-senate-225507

I can't keep track of the countless times in the past few years whearas Blacks have made up incidents for no reason other than to claim racism.
i.e. The Black girls on the bus that took weeks for the video to be publicly shown that they were lying
The Black that did the hanging drawing in the University Library.
Countless situations.

Yes, what I'm saying is, that it's more than likely the Senator was creating the situation so that he could be seen as going to bat for the Blacks. I'd love to see the details of each stop.
Was he:
1 driving around in quiet wealthier neighborhoods at 3 am ? a white person would be stopped also
2 driving by a cop just to give a big racism smirk ?
3 intentionally driving with a broken tail light ? all white people are stopped for this also dummy
4 driving like a dumbass ? white people are also stopped for acting like an idiot behind a wheel

who are you? you seriously have an anger issue.

YES, I am ANGRY. Angry that I'm accused of being racist. It's simply a way for Black people to shirk their responsibilities for there poor performance in Society. Get off the white privilege BS and do something about the behavior that makes white people as well as other Black people question your motives and intentions. It's not my fault you grew up without a Father. Not my fault you flunked out of school because you though joining a gang was the smarter thing to do. Not my fault you can't obey simple commands from a Police Officer.

+ 1 I agree with the PP. Even if we assume that there's some subtle form of white privilege, I'm seeing that black people use that as an excuse as to why, as a group, they are not doing as well as whites - rather than examine how they themselves contribute to unequal outcomes. Basically, it's a way of saying it's always someone else's fault. If blacks would do ONE thing that the majority of whites do, it would go a long way to reducing poverty, discouraging crime, creating families less dependent on welfare, and negating the stereotypes they are fighting against: Get married before you have a baby.

Your example of using whites as models is WRONG by any measure of statistics. ASIANS are Model US citizens. From on use Asians as a model to follow for whites and blacks.

PP. So using whites as a model is wrong by any measure of statistics? Sorry, but I was correct. Whites are economically much better off than blacks, and last I looked, that was a measure. Much, although certainly not all, can be traced to derailed educations and poorer single-parent households resulting from a high out-of-wedlock birth rate. (I do agree that Asians are even higher in achievement, as are Jews. Out-of-wedlock births are frowned upon in groups. To put it mildly.)
http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/27/news/economy/racial-wealth-gap-blacks-whites/

So if you agree that Asians are even higher in achievement than whites, then why are you using whites as benchmark. That is wrong. Start using Asians as your benchmark.

So you must be fine with asians taking over the CEO jobs and becoming the economic pillar of America, right? Do you agree that we need more smart asian immigration? Asians are the most educated, the wealthiest, the most with great family values and rarely have more than 2 kids. So why are so many white americans angry about asians also?

Clever, sneaky, and greedy is what most i met are like but ibget that you have to be that way to get white people to like you and look up to you. Lot of news reports of rich chinese buying up real estate in america and australia causing a bubble and making home ownership for actual residents impossible.

There you go. So when a white man has those very same qualities you want him be president. The asians have learned capitalism very well and beating white guys at their own game. Whats wrong with it, don't you like capitalism?

Actually majority of asians have been voting democrat for years now. Reason is probably to keep cheap labor for small businesses.

No, the reason is the ANTI-Minority tone and speech by the republican party. Trump really made it worse by directly appealing to the racists. Asians are also mostly social liberals, so the GOP abortion politics doesn't help. They are affected by taxes BUT wealthy and upper middle class Asians are fine with paying a slightly higher tax rate for better social facilities to take care of the poor.

It's often been said that the Republicans like the lower-class immigrants for the cheap labor, and the Democrats like them die their (eventual) votes. I tend to believe that.

But asian immigrants are mostly legal and highly educated and make lots of money. So they should be welcomed right, instead why are whites resentful about model minority immigrants? Are they feeling threatened that their position as the top dog will be usurped by them?

Most white people are not upset about immigrants who work hard and don't ask for preferences. In fact, aren't Asians the ones getting shafted by race weighted admissions because their kids are overrepresented and schools are limiting their slots?

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"If you can convince the lowest white man that he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll even empty his pockets for you." - Lyndon Johnson

LBJ got it right and the GOP has been picking the poor white man's pocket ever since. The poor white man figured as much and got angry and wanted to root out the GOP establishment. But when they decided to vote for Trump they jumped into the fire from the frying pan. Trump won't leave a single cent in their pocket BUT he has given them hispanics and blacks to look down on.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss black privilege? There are parts of DC, Chicago, Atlanta, New Orleans power structure where it could be very difficult to get a job as a non AA.

The cities you mentioned may have a greater influx of minorities in state and local government positions but those same cities also have some of the greatest disparities in wealth and affordable housing which results in densely overpopulated areas of those economically challenged which fosters environments for high crime which provides justification for law enforcement agencies to engage in discriminatory practices such as racial profiling...
So in a nutshell while some blacks may benefit in terms of employment in cities like DC, Chicago, Atlanta, and New Orleans they still are more likely to feel the effects of racism in those very same cities.

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This is the GOP and Trump Strategy. It has worked out so well for decades.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss black privilege? There are parts of DC, Chicago, Atlanta, New Orleans power structure where it could be very difficult to get a job as a non AA.

The cities you mentioned may have a greater influx of minorities in state and local government positions but those same cities also have some of the greatest disparities in wealth and affordable housing which results in densely overpopulated areas of those economically challenged which fosters environments for high crime which provides justification for law enforcement agencies to engage in discriminatory practices such as racial profiling...
So in a nutshell while some blacks may benefit in terms of employment in cities like DC, Chicago, Atlanta, and New Orleans they still are more likely to feel the effects of racism in those very same cities.

But a significant portion of the historic power structure in those cities is AA. So why are they not correcting this? The black "upper class" exists. Go to DC, go to Marthas Vineyard, got to Atlanta, go to Chicago, go to New Orleans.