Maryland license plate vigilantes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Really, Cindy, I think it's these nontraditional families that are the real problem."

"Weren't we talking about residency cheaters, Byron? Did you know they are stealing tax dollars from our District, just by their very existence?"

"They are? How shocking! I have never heard that before!"

"Then you haven't been paying attention! And if brave citizens like you don't take a stand against three year olds in foster care, or with noncustodial parents with cars, who will?"

"Well, Cindy, I have a great idea!"

"We desperately, need ideas, Byron. There's only so much a mother with a cell phone camera can do."

"We should close the borders. Big a build wall--"

("Cut to commercial, Joe. The Trump teleprompter got mixed in again.")

Not funny the first time. Gets less funny each time you try it.

No offense, but someone needed to tell you. Just let it go quietly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is always some jerk from Maryland who thinks its okay to cheat the system. Good for that parent! At least someone is doing something.

Really.....too much time on your hands if you can do this. I am a long time resident of the DC and own 5 homes between DC and MD. Some of my cars have MD tags and other have DC. I would love for one of you parents to stop me dropping off my child so I can more than flick off giving you a piece of my mind followed by giving you my DC address to find me later, should you have questions and need further flicking off on. ,

Expected response from someone who is breaking the law and flaunting it anonymously. Feel truly sorry for your kid(s) to be learning such behaviors from the adult in their lives.

I feel for your children who mother/father is obsessed with trivial issues in life to compensate maybe for his/her self doubt or insecurities on where they are in life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can have all the documentation you want, sadly, nothing will happen.

I have taken photos of one family's MD license plates at a Deal feeder and at Deal.
I have given the names of the students and the address used in the school's directory.
It is well known to kids' friends that they live in MD but grandparents live in DC. Classic.
This has gone on for 5 years. Yes, Deal Middle School and one of the feeder schools.

DCPS has not done anything.

And it's a really fancy/expensive car. I know it shouldn't but that annoys me.

Did you report them to OSSE? http://dcforms.dc.gov/webform/osse-residency-fraud-prevention-form

I did report them, not this year, but other years. I actually spoke to a person one time who took the info. I'll do it again using this site, it looks thorough.

Not an excuse, but the truth of the matter is that government agencies are not going to do everything well. From a priorities standpoint, if the goal is to turnaround or improve overall academic performance in the district, I would rather OSSE and DCPS focus on providing adequate support to schools/teachers (instead of making things more difficult or doing nothing). Residency fraud is an issue, but its not material, or one of high priority at this point in time. I'm not upset that OSSE doesn't have residency fraud agents staffed at the wazoo to appease my other fellow gentrifiers.

[Anonymous]

I'm just curious which school the pics were taken at....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is always some jerk from Maryland who thinks its okay to cheat the system. Good for that parent! At least someone is doing something.

Really.....too much time on your hands if you can do this. I am a long time resident of the DC and own 5 homes between DC and MD. Some of my cars have MD tags and other have DC. I would love for one of you parents to stop me dropping off my child so I can more than flick off giving you a piece of my mind followed by giving you my DC address to find me later, should you have questions and need further flicking off on. ,

Expected response from someone who is breaking the law and flaunting it anonymously. Feel truly sorry for your kid(s) to be learning such behaviors from the adult in their lives.

I feel for your children who mother/father is obsessed with trivial issues in life to compensate maybe for his/her self doubt or insecurities on where they are in life.

Again, but this time in English please

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have an out of state license (not MD or VA) and send my kids to DC public schools. Given the nature of our job assignment here, we're not required to get DC plates at this time. Have fun photographing us!

+1 (and we are at a HRCS)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is always some jerk from Maryland who thinks its okay to cheat the system. Good for that parent! At least someone is doing something.

Really.....too much time on your hands if you can do this. I am a long time resident of the DC and own 5 homes between DC and MD. Some of my cars have MD tags and other have DC. I would love for one of you parents to stop me dropping off my child so I can more than flick off giving you a piece of my mind followed by giving you my DC address to find me later, should you have questions and need further flicking off on. ,

You do realize that having cars registered in two jurisdictions is also illegal, right? You can only have primary residence in one state or territory at a time and must register cars where you have established your primary residence. This is the reason motor-voter laws work. In order to register a car, you must hold a valid license from that state or jurisdiction. If you hold more than one license, you could potentially vote in more than one state, committing voter fraud. These crimes are all linked. Tax fraud, license fraud, school residency fraud, voter fraud all stem from people not being truthful about where they legally reside.

You might not be committing school residency fraud, but you can get down off of your high horse because you are committing a crime.

FLAT OUT WRONG....plenty of folks have primary residence in DC, businesses in nearby states and the car can be registered in their business. I personally know plenty of families that have primary residence in DC and have homes in Florida for summer and cars are registered in both states in which they pay taxes.

You should not be using your business car for personal errands like dropping off your kids at school. i hope you get audited you tax cheat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Really, Cindy, I think it's these nontraditional families that are the real problem."

"Weren't we talking about residency cheaters, Byron? Did you know they are stealing tax dollars from our District, just by their very existence?"

"They are? How shocking! I have never heard that before!"

"Then you haven't been paying attention! And if brave citizens like you don't take a stand against three year olds in foster care, or with noncustodial parents with cars, who will?"

"Well, Cindy, I have a great idea!"

"We desperately, need ideas, Byron. There's only so much a mother with a cell phone camera can do."

"We should close the borders. Big a build wall--"

("Cut to commercial, Joe. The Trump teleprompter got mixed in again.")

Not funny the first time. Gets less funny each time you try it.

No offense, but someone needed to tell you. Just let it go quietly.

I was quite enjoying the Greek chorus vibe it brought to an otherwise squabbling thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They don't do anything. My friend turned in a MD resident who is at LAMB, a year later...still there.

My friend's daughter goes to LAMB. The parents are divorced- full joint custody. Kids are legally in DC schools. Report away but it isn't illegal.

Of all the kids, how do you know you are talking about the same one?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They don't do anything. My friend turned in a MD resident who is at LAMB, a year later...still there.

My friend's daughter goes to LAMB. The parents are divorced- full joint custody. Kids are legally in DC schools. Report away but it isn't illegal.

Of all the kids, how do you know you are talking about the same one?

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I posted the anecdote - of course I don't know it's the same one. But I know 3 other families at LAMB with the same situation.

Perhaps the takeaway is that getting into LAMB is hard on marriages -- but my point in sharing is that there are very legitimate reasons for people with MD license plates / MD residents having kids in the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. I applaud the people reporting suspected cheaters. "See something, say something." If these families have a legitimate reason for an OOS plate, the school will confirm it. If not, the school (hopefully) will act against them and require payment of tuition or remove the student. The system needs our help to work efficiently.

All the haters posting here have nothing to fear if their excuses are legitimate.

But none of that happens if people are too lazy/scared to report potential cheaters. It's sort of like what Jeff tells us here: He doesn't have time to police every post, so the DCUM community needs to report suspicious posts to flag them for his attention.

Keep doing your part to help DCPS/OSSE do its job effectively!

By all means, report potential cheaters. Try to make them get hauled into the residency fraud office with the right docs. But don't "out" them here. That's skunky, pathetic, and cowardly. Moreover, Jeff doesn't appreciate it. He'll delete posts identifying an ordinary individual or family if somebody flags it, no matter what the issue is.

[Anonymous]

"Byron, is it true that people are being intimidated by these cheaters?"

"I know I feel intimidated right now, Cindy. If it wasn't for the selfless acts of these brave parents, diligently calling other, more cowardly parents, scofflaws, society as we know it would have a complete breakdown."

"I agree. I'm just glad we have so many good, law-abiding people. You just know they're raising their children with the right values."

"If you won't raise your kids to understand that some of their classmates might have parents who are filthy cheaters, you shouldn't raise children at all, Cindy."

"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OK, which one of you weirdos decided to go up to one of the Capitol Ill schools to photograph license plates and kids walking into school today. That was super creepy and a messed up way of showing your displeasure with not getting a slot. While you are talking about your rights, what about the rights of the families who are simply trying to take their kids to school in peace?

OP - how do you know this is someone who didn't get a spot? Do you know the person who was doing this? Did you mention to school staff during drop-off?

A. Who else would have a dog in this race?

B. The police were called.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From a DCPS Teacher

1. Most children attending DC public schools live in single parent/divorced parent/multiple guardianship homes. The other parent does not have to live in DC, and has a right to take their kid to school.

2. At my school we have at least 30-40 active families in the foster care system. DC does not have enough foster or group homes, meaning that temporary care providers may live in Maryland or VA. The children are Wards of DC Govt, and therefore have a right to attend a DC public school.

3. Taking pics of kids going to school is super creepy.

I think the parents of higher SES, ECE children in particular vastly underestimate the number of divorced or never married families in DCPS. The number of divorces that happened among families at our charter school between 3rd and 5th grade was shocking to me (nearly 40% of families). The splits almost always wound up with one parent across the line in Maryland and another in DC with most kids staying in DC schools, at least through elementary school.

The issue is the CUSTODIAL parent has to live in DC, but that is not enforced.

Here can be 50/50 custody. In fact, that's the norm these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. I applaud the people reporting suspected cheaters. "See something, say something." If these families have a legitimate reason for an OOS plate, the school will confirm it. If not, the school (hopefully) will act against them and require payment of tuition or remove the student. The system needs our help to work efficiently.

All the haters posting here have nothing to fear if their excuses are legitimate.

But none of that happens if people are too lazy/scared to report potential cheaters. It's sort of like what Jeff tells us here: He doesn't have time to police every post, so the DCUM community needs to report suspicious posts to flag them for his attention.

Keep doing your part to help DCPS/OSSE do its job effectively!

By all means, report potential cheaters. Try to make them get hauled into the residency fraud office with the right docs. But don't "out" them here. That's skunky, pathetic, and cowardly. Moreover, Jeff doesn't appreciate it. He'll delete posts identifying an ordinary individual or family if somebody flags it, no matter what the issue is.

Whoever outed anyone here???? This thread is about someone complaining about people who report potential cheaters, not about outing cheaters on DCUM.