New Year Eve's Coordinated Sexual Assault Attacks in Cologne

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Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Yes but this has been reported in mainstream news outlets such as BBC and the NY Times. The descriptions by witnesses of the appearances of alleged participants have been placed in scare quotes, but the articles speak for themselves. This isn't something that can be Breitbarted away.

I will ask again. Is there any proof these people were refugees vs. EU citizens? What exactly does the description mean? Greeks can have the same look. So can Rroma people. So can Turks. Why are we jumping to refugees immediately?

Proof, as that term is commonly understood, is a matter for courts. But why, I must ask,do you want proof of their status? All are equal before the law. This focus on ethnicity bothers me.

Because the implication I see in this thread (and noted in that article) is that allowing the refugees in is what caused this.

"The refugees" are people of various backgrounds.

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Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Yes but this has been reported in mainstream news outlets such as BBC and the NY Times. The descriptions by witnesses of the appearances of alleged participants have been placed in scare quotes, but the articles speak for themselves. This isn't something that can be Breitbarted away.

I will ask again. Is there any proof these people were refugees vs. EU citizens? What exactly does the description mean? Greeks can have the same look. So can Rroma people. So can Turks. Why are we jumping to refugees immediately?

Proof, as that term is commonly understood, is a matter for courts. But why, I must ask,do you want proof of their status? All are equal before the law. This focus on ethnicity bothers me.

Because the implication I see in this thread (and noted in that article) is that allowing the refugees in is what caused this.

Yes, that is the implication that some articles are strenuously avoiding. It's nonsensical -- it wasn't German men doing the assaulting.

If they are in the country legally, they are German men.

uh? no, if you visit Germany as a tourist you are there legally, you certainly do not become a German. If they are in the country legally as foreigners with the right to live there and work, they are not Germans, they are like legal aliens in the US. If they arrived illegally and filed for asylum, they might be there legally and they still are not Germans

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One report I read from a British woman said that they spoke neither English nor German. I think it was a BBC report about the incident in Cologne.

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Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Yes but this has been reported in mainstream news outlets such as BBC and the NY Times. The descriptions by witnesses of the appearances of alleged participants have been placed in scare quotes, but the articles speak for themselves. This isn't something that can be Breitbarted away.

I will ask again. Is there any proof these people were refugees vs. EU citizens? What exactly does the description mean? Greeks can have the same look. So can Rroma people. So can Turks. Why are we jumping to refugees immediately?

Proof, as that term is commonly understood, is a matter for courts. But why, I must ask,do you want proof of their status? All are equal before the law. This focus on ethnicity bothers me.

Because the implication I see in this thread (and noted in that article) is that allowing the refugees in is what caused this.

Yes, that is the implication that some articles are strenuously avoiding. It's nonsensical -- it wasn't German men doing the assaulting.

If they are in the country legally, they are German men.

uh? no, if you visit Germany as a tourist you are there legally, you certainly do not become a German. If they are in the country legally as foreigners with the right to live there and work, they are not Germans, they are like legal aliens in the US. If they arrived illegally and filed for asylum, they might be there legally and they still are not Germans

Newsflash: it's a diverse country now. Sorry if that bothers you.

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Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Yes but this has been reported in mainstream news outlets such as BBC and the NY Times. The descriptions by witnesses of the appearances of alleged participants have been placed in scare quotes, but the articles speak for themselves. This isn't something that can be Breitbarted away.

I will ask again. Is there any proof these people were refugees vs. EU citizens? What exactly does the description mean? Greeks can have the same look. So can Rroma people. So can Turks. Why are we jumping to refugees immediately?

First, they can't speak German or English, so in some way they are new to the country.. Second, noone is claiming these are the recent Syrian refugees, however it raises concerns of welcoming and integrating more people from misogynistic cultures incompatible with Western values. Some of the suspects that have been caught were carrying asylum papers. It is widely reported the men are of Arabic or North African looks.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Yes but this has been reported in mainstream news outlets such as BBC and the NY Times. The descriptions by witnesses of the appearances of alleged participants have been placed in scare quotes, but the articles speak for themselves. This isn't something that can be Breitbarted away.

I will ask again. Is there any proof these people were refugees vs. EU citizens? What exactly does the description mean? Greeks can have the same look. So can Rroma people. So can Turks. Why are we jumping to refugees immediately?

Proof, as that term is commonly understood, is a matter for courts. But why, I must ask,do you want proof of their status? All are equal before the law. This focus on ethnicity bothers me.

Because the implication I see in this thread (and noted in that article) is that allowing the refugees in is what caused this.

Yes, that is the implication that some articles are strenuously avoiding. It's nonsensical -- it wasn't German men doing the assaulting.

If they are in the country legally, they are German men.

uh? no, if you visit Germany as a tourist you are there legally, you certainly do not become a German. If they are in the country legally as foreigners with the right to live there and work, they are not Germans, they are like legal aliens in the US. If they arrived illegally and filed for asylum, they might be there legally and they still are not Germans

Newsflash: it's a diverse country now. Sorry if that bothers you.

It does not bother me a bit. German men are men who are German citizens (which usually means that they have a German parent and/or that they have lived in Germany for a long time). People who are in Germany legally are not German men, they are foreigners who are in Germany legally.

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Most German men I know respect women as equals, as do most other traditional Europeans.

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Police detain seven men, all with migrant passports, say the attacks were by North African/Middle Eastern men.

Yet PPs speculate they are Greek and the moderator here locks threads that suggest they are what the officers - never mind the groped women - say they are.

Welcome to DCUM

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But they are not Germans by blood.

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Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Yes but this has been reported in mainstream news outlets such as BBC and the NY Times. The descriptions by witnesses of the appearances of alleged participants have been placed in scare quotes, but the articles speak for themselves. This isn't something that can be Breitbarted away.

I will ask again. Is there any proof these people were refugees vs. EU citizens? What exactly does the description mean? Greeks can have the same look. So can Rroma people. So can Turks. Why are we jumping to refugees immediately?

Proof, as that term is commonly understood, is a matter for courts. But why, I must ask,do you want proof of their status? All are equal before the law. This focus on ethnicity bothers me.

Because the implication I see in this thread (and noted in that article) is that allowing the refugees in is what caused this.

Yes, that is the implication that some articles are strenuously avoiding. It's nonsensical -- it wasn't German men doing the assaulting.

If they are in the country legally, they are German men.

uh? no, if you visit Germany as a tourist you are there legally, you certainly do not become a German. If they are in the country legally as foreigners with the right to live there and work, they are not Germans, they are like legal aliens in the US. If they arrived illegally and filed for asylum, they might be there legally and they still are not Germans

Newsflash: it's a diverse country now. Sorry if that bothers you.

It's the coordinated mass rape that bothers Germans.

The diversity - not so much. Guessing you don't know any Germans and haven't spent any meaningful time in the country.

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Anonymous wrote:Police detain seven men, all with migrant passports, say the attacks were by North African/Middle Eastern men.

Yet PPs speculate they are Greek and the moderator here locks threads that suggest they are what the officers - never mind the groped women - say they are.

Welcome to DCUM

One of those threads was wrong and innacurately inflammatory, and the other was duplicative. Why shouldn't they be locked?

[Anonymous]

Where are the islamapologists?? Where is Muslima and Jeff defending these innocent men?

Never happened until millions of Muslim men were let into the country. Politically correct fools.

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Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Gypsies don't run in throngs and throw themselves at you.

There may be two "working" as a pair, trying to scam people. But they don't grope you.

And they're sooo Christian. in name only . . . Give me a break.

PP, I spent most of my life in Eastern Europe, I know exactly what I am talking about.

I live in Eastern Europe right now, and I also know exactly what I am talking about: gypsies do NOT commit gang rapes and are not known for sexual violence. There are problems in the Roma community with theft, but NOT sex crimes. If you think otherwise, you didn't spend most of your life in Eastern Europe.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are the islamapologists?? Where is Muslima and Jeff defending these innocent men?

Never happened until millions of Muslim men were let into the country. Politically correct fools.

Truth be told. Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Gypsies don't run in throngs and throw themselves at you.

There may be two "working" as a pair, trying to scam people. But they don't grope you.

And they're sooo Christian. in name only . . . Give me a break.

PP, I spent most of my life in Eastern Europe, I know exactly what I am talking about.

I live in Eastern Europe right now, and I also know exactly what I am talking about: gypsies do NOT commit gang rapes and are not known for sexual violence. There are problems in the Roma community with theft, but NOT sex crimes. If you think otherwise, you didn't spend most of your life in Eastern Europe.

This is correct. -Former European resident