New Year Eve's Coordinated Sexual Assault Attacks in Cologne

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"The main point that I've been trying to make since joining this discussion is that there is no disagreement with regard to the crimes and violence committed in Cologne. On the topic of sexual assault, I doubt that my personal views are very different than any of the most fierce women's advocates here. If you want to focus on stoping sexual assaults, I am completely with you. Where I disagree with some here is when this issue is used to oppose refugees or to attack Muslims or Arabs. "

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This is the only relevant point I can find in this 37 page arguing simply for the sake of arguing or vilifying all Arabs or Islam mess.

Exactly how do you expect to stop the attacks if you don't stop the attackers?

Why import the attackers in the first place?

Wtf? Are you a man? Or something? Do you know that there are homegrown rapists right here and in Germany, too? What is this obsession with refugees as if they're the first men to commit rape? Find the attackers. Punish appropriately. Hell, hold classes in appropriate behavior by men - frankly, there are huge numbers of native born men who could use them.

Don't mix in our local men with these animals. Europe had never had a massive attsck like that till those animals came in.

Aaaaand here are the Republican feelings about sexual assault in a nutshell. It's only bad if a) minorities do it and b) do it in large numbers, otherwise the sluts be making it up!

And to your second point: pretty sure rape was used as a tool of war in WWII. Is that massive enough for you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The main point that I've been trying to make since joining this discussion is that there is no disagreement with regard to the crimes and violence committed in Cologne. On the topic of sexual assault, I doubt that my personal views are very different than any of the most fierce women's advocates here. If you want to focus on stoping sexual assaults, I am completely with you. Where I disagree with some here is when this issue is used to oppose refugees or to attack Muslims or Arabs. "

+1000
This is the only relevant point I can find in this 37 page arguing simply for the sake of arguing or vilifying all Arabs or Islam mess.

Exactly how do you expect to stop the attacks if you don't stop the attackers?

Why import the attackers in the first place?

Wtf? Are you a man? Or something? Do you know that there are homegrown rapists right here and in Germany, too? What is this obsession with refugees as if they're the first men to commit rape? Find the attackers. Punish appropriately. Hell, hold classes in appropriate behavior by men - frankly, there are huge numbers of native born men who could use them.

I'm a woman and you're obviously a man with that ridiculous attitude. Of course ALL criminals need appropriate consequences, but Germans should NOT fund the prison life of migrant criminals. Why should they?

Migrant RAPISTS don't care about your cultural standards of respectful behavior towards women. Who do you think you're fooling? They know what they've always known, and that's that. They've been taught and shown since birth that WOMEN are to be OWNED.

Does anyone seriously imagine one of these barbarians coming out of a cultural training class saying, "I didn't know I wasn't supposed attack and grab the pants off of young women and punch and bruise their private parts as they screamed"?

Or "I didn't know I wasn't suppose to steal cell phones"?

Enough is enough. Shame on you!

Sorry to disappoint; I am a woman. Shame on you. I don't believe you're a woman, FWIW. Why should they "fund" the "prison life"? What are you suggesting for them, immediate death? Deportation? So they can get really radicalized and come back? Legit reasoning.

Who mentioned radicalization? YOU did. The PP was simply stating that "training" these men in Western ways would be a waste of money, as would housing them in prisons. I'd rather see the money be put toward education, NOT feeding and housing rapists.

Weren't some of the radicals in France homegrown?

I don't believe you have any leg to stand on here, genius.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The main point that I've been trying to make since joining this discussion is that there is no disagreement with regard to the crimes and violence committed in Cologne. On the topic of sexual assault, I doubt that my personal views are very different than any of the most fierce women's advocates here. If you want to focus on stoping sexual assaults, I am completely with you. Where I disagree with some here is when this issue is used to oppose refugees or to attack Muslims or Arabs. "

+1000
This is the only relevant point I can find in this 37 page arguing simply for the sake of arguing or vilifying all Arabs or Islam mess.

Exactly how do you expect to stop the attacks if you don't stop the attackers?

Why import the attackers in the first place?

Wtf? Are you a man? Or something? Do you know that there are homegrown rapists right here and in Germany, too? What is this obsession with refugees as if they're the first men to commit rape? Find the attackers. Punish appropriately. Hell, hold classes in appropriate behavior by men - frankly, there are huge numbers of native born men who could use them.

Don't mix in our local men with these animals. Europe had never had a massive attsck like that till those animals came in.

Aaaaand here are the Republican feelings about sexual assault in a nutshell. It's only bad if a) minorities do it and b) do it in large numbers, otherwise the sluts be making it up!

And to your second point: pretty sure rape was used as a tool of war in WWII. Is that massive enough for you?

Do you realize how hysterical you sound. For one, I think all rape is terrible and bad. What horrified me about this event was that this was a mass organized attack in a public place. Whatever color the men were, it would have been horrific and I would have condemned it. In this case it was Arab and North African looking men. I meant that in post WWII Europe, it has generally been safe for women to walk in public areas, this has now changed since the massive migration. Your attacks on my political leanings don't faze me, I'm not even Democrat or Republican, I'm not even from the US. I am proud to say the majority of men in places in Europe, US and other civilized places of the world have treated me with respect and kindness. When I have faced danger its been in Morocco, Egypt, and with migrant men in Europe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The main point that I've been trying to make since joining this discussion is that there is no disagreement with regard to the crimes and violence committed in Cologne. On the topic of sexual assault, I doubt that my personal views are very different than any of the most fierce women's advocates here. If you want to focus on stoping sexual assaults, I am completely with you. Where I disagree with some here is when this issue is used to oppose refugees or to attack Muslims or Arabs. "

+1000
This is the only relevant point I can find in this 37 page arguing simply for the sake of arguing or vilifying all Arabs or Islam mess.

Exactly how do you expect to stop the attacks if you don't stop the attackers?

Why import the attackers in the first place?

Wtf? Are you a man? Or something? Do you know that there are homegrown rapists right here and in Germany, too? What is this obsession with refugees as if they're the first men to commit rape? Find the attackers. Punish appropriately. Hell, hold classes in appropriate behavior by men - frankly, there are huge numbers of native born men who could use them.

Don't mix in our local men with these animals. Europe had never had a massive attsck like that till those animals came in.

Aaaaand here are the Republican feelings about sexual assault in a nutshell. It's only bad if a) minorities do it and b) do it in large numbers, otherwise the sluts be making it up!

And to your second point: pretty sure rape was used as a tool of war in WWII. Is that massive enough for you?

you sound really off your rocker. Time to go take a chill pill. Were you even alive during WWII?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The main point that I've been trying to make since joining this discussion is that there is no disagreement with regard to the crimes and violence committed in Cologne. On the topic of sexual assault, I doubt that my personal views are very different than any of the most fierce women's advocates here. If you want to focus on stoping sexual assaults, I am completely with you. Where I disagree with some here is when this issue is used to oppose refugees or to attack Muslims or Arabs. "

+1000
This is the only relevant point I can find in this 37 page arguing simply for the sake of arguing or vilifying all Arabs or Islam mess.

Exactly how do you expect to stop the attacks if you don't stop the attackers?

Why import the attackers in the first place?

Wtf? Are you a man? Or something? Do you know that there are homegrown rapists right here and in Germany, too? What is this obsession with refugees as if they're the first men to commit rape? Find the attackers. Punish appropriately. Hell, hold classes in appropriate behavior by men - frankly, there are huge numbers of native born men who could use them.

Don't mix in our local men with these animals. Europe had never had a massive attsck like that till those animals came in.

Uh, not since those pesky Nazis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The main point that I've been trying to make since joining this discussion is that there is no disagreement with regard to the crimes and violence committed in Cologne. On the topic of sexual assault, I doubt that my personal views are very different than any of the most fierce women's advocates here. If you want to focus on stoping sexual assaults, I am completely with you. Where I disagree with some here is when this issue is used to oppose refugees or to attack Muslims or Arabs. "

+1000
This is the only relevant point I can find in this 37 page arguing simply for the sake of arguing or vilifying all Arabs or Islam mess.

Exactly how do you expect to stop the attacks if you don't stop the attackers?

Why import the attackers in the first place?

Wtf? Are you a man? Or something? Do you know that there are homegrown rapists right here and in Germany, too? What is this obsession with refugees as if they're the first men to commit rape? Find the attackers. Punish appropriately. Hell, hold classes in appropriate behavior by men - frankly, there are huge numbers of native born men who could use them.

Don't mix in our local men with these animals. Europe had never had a massive attsck like that till those animals came in.

Aaaaand here are the Republican feelings about sexual assault in a nutshell. It's only bad if a) minorities do it and b) do it in large numbers, otherwise the sluts be making it up!

And to your second point: pretty sure rape was used as a tool of war in WWII. Is that massive enough for you?

right
right

b/c it now makes it OK to rape/molest women now that we KNOW rape is used as a "war strategy"

Thanks for this update.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The main point that I've been trying to make since joining this discussion is that there is no disagreement with regard to the crimes and violence committed in Cologne. On the topic of sexual assault, I doubt that my personal views are very different than any of the most fierce women's advocates here. If you want to focus on stoping sexual assaults, I am completely with you. Where I disagree with some here is when this issue is used to oppose refugees or to attack Muslims or Arabs. "

+1000
This is the only relevant point I can find in this 37 page arguing simply for the sake of arguing or vilifying all Arabs or Islam mess.

Exactly how do you expect to stop the attacks if you don't stop the attackers?

Why import the attackers in the first place?

Wtf? Are you a man? Or something? Do you know that there are homegrown rapists right here and in Germany, too? What is this obsession with refugees as if they're the first men to commit rape? Find the attackers. Punish appropriately. Hell, hold classes in appropriate behavior by men - frankly, there are huge numbers of native born men who could use them.

Don't mix in our local men with these animals. Europe had never had a massive attsck like that till those animals came in.

Aaaaand here are the Republican feelings about sexual assault in a nutshell. It's only bad if a) minorities do it and b) do it in large numbers, otherwise the sluts be making it up!

And to your second point: pretty sure rape was used as a tool of war in WWII. Is that massive enough for you?

you sound really off your rocker. Time to go take a chill pill. Were you even alive during WWII?

maybe the nut case WAS alive during WWII . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The main point that I've been trying to make since joining this discussion is that there is no disagreement with regard to the crimes and violence committed in Cologne. On the topic of sexual assault, I doubt that my personal views are very different than any of the most fierce women's advocates here. If you want to focus on stoping sexual assaults, I am completely with you. Where I disagree with some here is when this issue is used to oppose refugees or to attack Muslims or Arabs. "

+1000
This is the only relevant point I can find in this 37 page arguing simply for the sake of arguing or vilifying all Arabs or Islam mess.

Exactly how do you expect to stop the attacks if you don't stop the attackers?

Why import the attackers in the first place?

Wtf? Are you a man? Or something? Do you know that there are homegrown rapists right here and in Germany, too? What is this obsession with refugees as if they're the first men to commit rape? Find the attackers. Punish appropriately. Hell, hold classes in appropriate behavior by men - frankly, there are huge numbers of native born men who could use them.

Don't mix in our local men with these animals. Europe had never had a massive attsck like that till those animals came in.

Aaaaand here are the Republican feelings about sexual assault in a nutshell. It's only bad if a) minorities do it and b) do it in large numbers, otherwise the sluts be making it up!

And to your second point: pretty sure rape was used as a tool of war in WWII. Is that massive enough for you?

Do you realize how hysterical you sound. For one, I think all rape is terrible and bad. What horrified me about this event was that this was a mass organized attack in a public place. Whatever color the men were, it would have been horrific and I would have condemned it. In this case it was Arab and North African looking men. I meant that in post WWII Europe, it has generally been safe for women to walk in public areas, this has now changed since the massive migration. Your attacks on my political leanings don't faze me, I'm not even Democrat or Republican, I'm not even from the US. I am proud to say the majority of men in places in Europe, US and other civilized places of the world have treated me with respect and kindness. When I have faced danger its been in Morocco, Egypt, and with migrant men in Europe.

Interesting. Cultural divide.

[Anonymous]

German police now say there are 370 criminal complaints from that night, almost half of them for sexual assault, the rest for assault and battery and robbery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:German police now say there are 370 criminal complaints from that night, almost half of them for sexual assault, the rest for assault and battery and robbery.

It'll take years to know the real numbers. But some victims will never go to authorities to report what happened to them. They'll suffer the trauma in silence unable to speak about it. Ever.

[Anonymous]

Bastards!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:After post 22:33 on page 29, there's not much more to be said.

The treatment of German women by the asylum-seekers is deplorable, and possibly/probably grounds for denial of asylum except in exceptional circumstances. The treatment of refugee women by refugee men is even worse.

There should be NO except.
You grope women - no asylum for you!

Some of these refugees are fleeing terrible places where they legitimately fear death, injury, and persecution. Behaving badly in their country of sanctuary is not ideal, but "groping women" should not be a death sentence.

However, if it turns out that some of these men who groped German women are involved in the truly horrific conditions at some of the refugee camps, I would have no qualms about sending them back. Legally, I don't know much about European asylum law, so I don't know if those crimes would affect their status.

I disagree. You better enter your host country n your BEST behavior!!!

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Also:
"Behaving badly is not ideal"?? Seriously? This is what you call it when someone is raped? Has their underwear ripped off their body, is beaten and squeezed on their breasts and behinds that they are black and blue? In a crowd that is tight with no escape that they might fear for their life? Oh and robbed as well? Behaving badly?!? Thats why I wish, people would not write about what happened as "groping" making it sound like a "boys will be boys" thing!

And Germany doesn't have a death sentence, nor did anyone call for it. I assume you mean sending a refugee back to their country means certain death?
First of all, there is no evidence that these criminals are from Syria - would you not want to send them back to Algeria, or Marocco either?
Secondly, you know, countries have sent people back that have been on their best behavior, I'd rather have them send back criminals!

And they really must do this. The SPD is nuts.

[Anonymous]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/09/europe/germany-new-year-violence/index.html

[Anonymous]

The German Police are now using water cannons on its own citizens who are protesting the massive attacks on German women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/09/europe/germany-new-year-violence/index.html

Thank you. This is astonishing.