New Year Eve's Coordinated Sexual Assault Attacks in Cologne

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

You must not have seen the numerous reports from both left wing and right wing sources verifying the truth of this. And a few incidents involving teenagers is nothing like coordinated attacks across 3 German cities involving 1000 men.

Is there any proof that they were refugees?

Noone on this thread has claimed they were refugees. However it is clear they were of Arab or North African descent. even if they were second generation, that shows a huge problem of integration into a Western society.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35231046
A policeman who was outside Cologne station during the New Year's Eve trouble told the city's Express news website that he had detained eight suspects. "They were all asylum seekers, carrying copies of their residence certificates," he said.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/05/germany-crisis-cologne-new-years-eve-sex-attacks
“Sexual crimes took place on a huge scale,” said the police president, Wolfgang Albers. “The crimes were committed by a group of people who from appearance were largely from the north African or Arab world

Officers are working on the assumption that the men had organised their plan of attack. They said many of the perpetrators were known to them and some may have been asylum seekers

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/01/05/sexual-assaults-blamed-on-arab-men-in-germany-may-inflame-refugee-debate/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_wv-germany-345pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

"We will not tolerate organized groups of men from North Africa that debase defenseless women with brazen sexual attacks," said Ralf Jäger, interior minister of the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, according to Spiegel. "We owe that to women as well as to those North African refugees who want to live peacefully among us."

In Cologne, police said the men appeared to have come from Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia and were on average in their mid-20s.

[Anonymous]

Germany is toast. So unfortunate. It was a beautiful country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

You must not have seen the numerous reports from both left wing and right wing sources verifying the truth of this. And a few incidents involving teenagers is nothing like coordinated attacks across 3 German cities involving 1000 men.

Is there any proof that they were refugees?

just this from BBC

City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35231046
Germany shocked by Cologne New Year gang assaults on women

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Gypsies don't run in throngs and throw themselves at you.

There may be two "working" as a pair, trying to scam people. But they don't grope you.

And they're sooo Christian. in name only . . . Give me a break.

PP, I spent most of my life in Eastern Europe, I know exactly what I am talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

You must not have seen the numerous reports from both left wing and right wing sources verifying the truth of this. And a few incidents involving teenagers is nothing like coordinated attacks across 3 German cities involving 1000 men.

Is there any proof that they were refugees?

just this from BBC

City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35231046

Germany shocked by Cologne New Year gang assaults on women

So they couldn't have been EU citizens?

[Anonymous]

In the US, participating in some sort of organized, large-scale attack on German citizens may render someone ineligible for asylum, although the crimes individually might not rise to that level. I have no idea how Europe considers asylum seekers, but here, actions in this country can definitely affect status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A picture how the train station looked that night:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Gypsies don't run in throngs and throw themselves at you.

There may be two "working" as a pair, trying to scam people. But they don't grope you.

And they're sooo Christian. in name only . . . Give me a break.

PP, I spent most of my life in Eastern Europe, I know exactly what I am talking about.

You're saying that this is all NBD. If this sort of thing happens frequently in Eastern Europe, or Germany, then that's really pretty shocking. And along with Egypt and north Africa, maybe I should write all of Europe off my list of places ever to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

well, maybe you should educate yourself.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35231046

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/05/germany-crisis-cologne-new-years-eve-sex-attacks

Angela Merkel issued a statement about her "disgust" over what happened, maybe you should tell her that what the heck, it was just NYE and nothing strange happened. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35237173

I am from Europe, and this has nothing to do with what "gypsies" do (which, BTW are in at least in part Muslim - I am not sure why you mentioned their faith, what happened has nothing to do with religion). criminal "gypsies" (women and children much more often than men) pickpocket, do not sexually assault women in large groups

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Germany is toast. So unfortunate. It was a beautiful country.

If they German people overcame WWII and its aftermath then I think they'll be OK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Yes but this has been reported in mainstream news outlets such as BBC and the NY Times. The descriptions by witnesses of the appearances of alleged participants have been placed in scare quotes, but the articles speak for themselves. This isn't something that can be Breitbarted away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Germany is toast. So unfortunate. It was a beautiful country.

If they German people overcame WWII and its aftermath then I think they'll be OK.

Not so sure that many people care that they "overcame" WW II.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Gypsies don't run in throngs and throw themselves at you.

There may be two "working" as a pair, trying to scam people. But they don't grope you.

And they're sooo Christian. in name only . . . Give me a break.

PP, I spent most of my life in Eastern Europe, I know exactly what I am talking about.

You're saying that this is all NBD. If this sort of thing happens frequently in Eastern Europe, or Germany, then that's really pretty shocking. And along with Egypt and north Africa, maybe I should write all of Europe off my list of places ever to go.

No, it is a big deal. I do have a big problem however, with this being pinned on refugees before having and concrete information and proof.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A picture how the train station looked that night:

Odd reaction--eating popcorn--to a report of a rape and assaults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Yes but this has been reported in mainstream news outlets such as BBC and the NY Times. The descriptions by witnesses of the appearances of alleged participants have been placed in scare quotes, but the articles speak for themselves. This isn't something that can be Breitbarted away.

I will ask again. Is there any proof these people were refugees vs. EU citizens? What exactly does the description mean? Greeks can have the same look. So can Rroma people. So can Turks. Why are we jumping to refugees immediately?