Homosexuality and the Bible

[Anonymous]

Mean girls, anyone?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Awwww, poor widdle trolly.... Is nobody coming out to play with you?

Maybe if you didn't have such lame comebacks, people would be more interested in engaging with you. Seriously.

You really think only one person is posting?

Seriously, there must be half a dozen people here who think PP is ridiculous. It's only their ego that shrinks the chorus down to one.

Well, that and her lack of brain cells.

Serious question: are you actually proud of this post?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mean girls, anyone?

They started it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Awwww, poor widdle trolly.... Is nobody coming out to play with you?

Maybe if you didn't have such lame comebacks, people would be more interested in engaging with you. Seriously.

You really think only one person is posting?

Seriously, there must be half a dozen people here who think PP is ridiculous. It's only their ego that shrinks the chorus down to one.

Well, that and her lack of brain cells.

Serious question: are you actually proud of this post?

Are you proud of yours?

[Anonymous]

Public Service Announcement: Don't click on Humorous Thread, try to turn it serious, then cry foul when people don't like you for it, act all sanctimonious and then cry foul when no one wants to hear it, fling insults, then cry foul when they're slung back at you. It's really not that hard.

[Anonymous]

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It's fine that you personally don't. That's great. But it's not what the bible says, right? Or are you finding exceptions?

Several of us (at least one other person besides me) pointed out that Jesus never said that. The second post in this thread says that Jesus repudiated all the stuff in Leviticus, including the stuff about homosexuality.

It would help if you read what EVERYBODY writes, instead of zeroing in, and stoking your sense of outrage, on the few fundamentalist nutcases.

C'mon now! Who cares whether Jesus said it or not. THE BIBLE IS THE DIVINELY INSPIRED WORD OF GOD!!! Are you really going to shrug the foundational text of your entire metaphysical worldview with a "Meh. Well, that's not a direct quote from Jesus.."

Anyway, it's not our fault that we've had forty years of silence by Christians in the face of the most horrible, disgusting folks representing the public face of Christianity. If you want to redeem the "brand" start by getting your own house in order.

Well it's either that or accept things like polygamy, sex with your daughters, and other nasty suff.

Face it, the bible is full of contradictions, and any thinking person has to come up with an interpretation to handle that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Public Service Announcement: Don't click on Humorous Thread, try to turn it serious, then cry foul when people don't like you for it, act all sanctimonious and then cry foul when no one wants to hear it, fling insults, then cry foul when they're slung back at you. It's really not that hard.

PSA: any thread on DCUM is fair game for going off track, unless it's a thread posted by an atheist. Also, if they insult you ("scriptures are crap"), then you are wrong to take offense.

Unlike on any other DCUM thread. The rules are different here, folks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public Service Announcement: Don't click on Humorous Thread, try to turn it serious, then cry foul when people don't like you for it, act all sanctimonious and then cry foul when no one wants to hear it, fling insults, then cry foul when they're slung back at you. It's really not that hard.

PSA: any thread on DCUM is fair game for going off track, unless it's a thread posted by an atheist. Also, if they insult you ("scriptures are crap"), then you are wrong to take offense.

Unlike on any other DCUM thread. The rules are different here, folks.

Thanks for clarifying. I agree.

[Anonymous]

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PSA: any thread on DCUM is fair game for going off track, unless it's a thread posted by an atheist*. Also, if they insult you ("scriptures are crap"), then you are wrong to take offense.**

Unlike on any other DCUM thread. The rules are different here, folks.

* In which case, you must conduct yourself on the thread exactly as she orders you to.

** But don't even think of calling the person who insulted you "childish" or "obnoxious" because this would just be wrong, because ... because... why, again???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
It's fine that you personally don't. That's great. But it's not what the bible says, right? Or are you finding exceptions?

Several of us (at least one other person besides me) pointed out that Jesus never said that. The second post in this thread says that Jesus repudiated all the stuff in Leviticus, including the stuff about homosexuality.

It would help if you read what EVERYBODY writes, instead of zeroing in, and stoking your sense of outrage, on the few fundamentalist nutcases.

C'mon now! Who cares whether Jesus said it or not. THE BIBLE IS THE DIVINELY INSPIRED WORD OF GOD!!! Are you really going to shrug the foundational text of your entire metaphysical worldview with a "Meh. Well, that's not a direct quote from Jesus.."

Anyway, it's not our fault that we've had forty years of silence by Christians in the face of the most horrible, disgusting folks representing the public face of Christianity. If you want to redeem the "brand" start by getting your own house in order.

Well it's either that or accept things like polygamy, sex with your daughters, and other nasty suff.

Face it, the bible is full of contradictions, and any thinking person has to come up with an interpretation to handle that.

I don't see how you can call polygamy, sex with your daughters, and stoning menstruating women "contradictions". These all seem perfectly resolvable. Granted I find the morality outlined by the book horrifying, but then again, I'm not the Christian.

I suppose you *could* abstain from some of the more icky practices, since the Bible doesn't say you *have* to commit incest. But even that would be pretty difficult.

http://www.ajjacobs.com/books/yolb.asp
http://www.ajjacobs.com/books/yolb.asp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, if they insult you ("scriptures are crap"), then you are wrong to take offense.

Or you could do the adult thing that's required of every other topic except the so-called "sacred" (which must never, ever be questioned) and either a) ignore it, or b) defend it.

If you write a post talking about how Rick Perry (or an Obama reelection) is the only hope for America's future, you'll probably hear a discouraging response or two. You may not be allowed to cast aspersions on your imaginary sky-friend, but that doesn't apply to the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Can I ask a serious question here? I'm not trolling, I am ignorant. Why are people making such a huge distinction between old and new testament here when it comes to this stuff? What Jesus supposedly said versus (I think, if I'm following this??) what a lot of Christians still quote (in terms of all the Leviticus stuff, which I know nothing about.) It's where they get it all from, right? I don't get this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
PSA: any thread on DCUM is fair game for going off track, unless it's a thread posted by an atheist*. Also, if they insult you ("scriptures are crap"), then you are wrong to take offense.**

Unlike on any other DCUM thread. The rules are different here, folks.

* In which case, you must conduct yourself on the thread exactly as she orders you to.

** But don't even think of calling the person who insulted you "childish" or "obnoxious" because this would just be wrong, because ... because... why, again???

Because when she replies to that, you whine and cry about it, and it just gets boring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can I ask a serious question here? I'm not trolling, I am ignorant. Why are people making such a huge distinction between old and new testament here when it comes to this stuff? What Jesus supposedly said versus (I think, if I'm following this??) what a lot of Christians still quote (in terms of all the Leviticus stuff, which I know nothing about.) It's where they get it all from, right? I don't get this.

It's because Christians believe that Jesus came to Earth to establish a New Covenant which would supplant the law-based Old Testament. Of course, that doesn't stop the most high-profile Christians from picking and choosing which bits from the Old Testament happen to flatter whichever prejudices are in current fashion. "Slavery's deeply moral!" "No, of course no one ever supported slavery! That's *old* testament! But miscegenation is a capital offense!" "No, of course miscegenation's not a problem! That's crazy! But gay people are an affront to God!" Etc, etc...

So the Old Testament is no longer "operative". But as far as homophobia goes, they'll always have Paul.

http://atheism.about.com/od/biblegospelofmark/a/mark07b_2.htm

[Anonymous]

Anybody else here get the impression that some of the atheists are here to have a *good* down & dirty fight, with name-calling and all the rest? That few of them are interested in discussing anything like adults?