Am I the only one that thinks that Strauss-Kahn was set up?

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[Post New]05/19/2011 15:28
Anonymous
The whole thing pisses me off. I hate ladies' men, who are not really ladies' men, but pigs so drunk on their own power and deluded with their sense of entitlement that they cannot believe anyone would resist them (yes, Monsieur Porcine, I am talking about you - you are not suave, you are disgusting).

But I am also pissed off because of this from a PP: I do suspect it was a set up, but not one originated by Sarkozy. It was more likely coming from the US (the Fed and/or Wall Street). Joseph Stiglitz wrote this month about the IMF's policy switch on capital controls and labor market under DSK's leadership and how he was "proving himself a sagacious leader of the IMF". Maybe too sagacious for powerful Americans to stand?

http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/stiglitz138/English

I don't think it was a set-up, but I do believe that DSK made Western financiers very nervous. The IMF has issued some very critical statements on the US economy in recent years - they were very alarmed at Bush' budget busting, etc. So do I think the champagne glasses were clinking on Sunday and Monday, well, yes.


[Post New]05/19/2011 15:29
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yesterday on the Diane Rehm show (or was it the day before) I heard one of the reporter guests say that the alleged victim had worked in the hotel for a couple of years. That weighs against a conspiracy.


You know that attractive African maid was planted years ago. Sarcozy is a visionary.
[Post New]05/19/2011 15:31
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The whole thing pisses me off. I hate ladies' men, who are not really ladies' men, but pigs so drunk on their own power and deluded with their sense of entitlement that they cannot believe anyone would resist them (yes, Monsieur Porcine, I am talking about you - you are not suave, you are disgusting).

But I am also pissed off because of this from a PP: I do suspect it was a set up, but not one originated by Sarkozy. It was more likely coming from the US (the Fed and/or Wall Street). Joseph Stiglitz wrote this month about the IMF's policy switch on capital controls and labor market under DSK's leadership and how he was "proving himself a sagacious leader of the IMF". Maybe too sagacious for powerful Americans to stand?

http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/stiglitz138/English

I don't think it was a set-up, but I do believe that DSK made Western financiers very nervous. The IMF has issued some very critical statements on the US economy in recent years - they were very alarmed at Bush' budget busting, etc. So do I think the champagne glasses were clinking on Sunday and Monday, well, yes.




Don't even give the poster the dignity of response. Just another nutjob conspiracy theorist.
[Post New]05/19/2011 15:31
Anonymous
Some of the security footage shows a man smoking a cigarette Just like in the x files!
I think it is time to shut the IMF down. If their leader does this here, what do they do it third world countries?
[Post New]05/19/2011 16:12
Anonymous
They just allowed him to go out on bail.
[Post New]05/19/2011 16:17
Anonymous
15:31, how am I nutjob? I indicate that I do not think DSK was set up. His own hubris brought him down. That said, I do think that a lot of Western financiers were quite happy that he will no longer be at the IMF and able to criticize how loose controls on capital nearly brought our nation to financial ruin.
[Post New]05/19/2011 16:20
Anonymous
People need to calm down. My reading of the story (from what I heard on NPR) is that it sounds plausible, the woman sounds credible, and DSK seems guilty. But I don't know.

People got all pissed off about "blaming the victim" in the Lululemon story, and well, how did that turn out for you?

Whatever your view, there's no need to get pissed off because other people have another view. Maybe most rape victims are credible, but not all of them are. It's hardly an insult to someone you never heard of before 3 days ago to wonder if they are in one category or the other.
[Post New]05/19/2011 16:23
Anonymous
I am not drinking champagne but I'm not ashamed to admit I have a serious case of schadenfreude.
[Post New]05/19/2011 16:37
Anonymous
totally agree, OP!

A colleague believes this, too, and thinks that the maid was probably paid well for this!
[Post New]05/19/2011 18:06
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am not drinking champagne but I'm not ashamed to admit I have a serious case of schadenfreude.


Because a womanizer was brought down? Or because the financial parasites no longer have to discuss DSK?
[Post New]05/19/2011 18:07
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not drinking champagne but I'm not ashamed to admit I have a serious case of schadenfreude.


Because a womanizer was brought down? Or because the financial parasites no longer have to discuss DSK?


Ooops, I mean deal with DSK, not discuss him.
[Post New]05/19/2011 18:18
Anonymous
what I find dismaying is the reaction of other journalists when in 2007 Tristane Banon discussed DSK's attempt to rape her . She mentioned that he grabbed her and one of the guys on the show says "yes, but look at you," implying that her good looks not only invited but excused this aggression. Another person responded when she described how he ripped her bra off "Oh, i love that." Totally playing down the fact that this man attempted to rape a 21 year old and she literally escaped the apartment. The French are all too quick to excuse a lot of his behavior as "womanizing" but there is a huge difference between having consensual affairs and abuse of power, whether through questionable sexual harrasment (his affair at the IMF), multiple reports of DSK groping and grabbing women who did not invite it, or attempting to rape them (as in Banon and now in NYC). There is, if nothing else, a seriously disturbing pattern of behavior here--not just on DSK's part, but on the part of people who have excused it for years.
[Post New]05/19/2011 18:42
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8516275/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-Was-it-a-stitch-up.html

And then there is this. The first people to break the news were Sarkozy operatives. Did Dominique love women? Of course. He hung out with some of the most beautiful women in DC, you should have seen him at Milano, and that was the perfect way for that little Napoleon to bring him down. Also check out the victim. Seems pretty strange that she just happens to be a beautiful Afro-French in that hotel in his suite. Have you SEEN the typical hotel maid? Makes it more plausible that she was a DGSE operative.


It's bizarre to see a philanderer described as someone who "loves women". What an inappropriate euphemism!
[Post New]05/19/2011 18:45
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was no set up. A maid at a hotel in Mexico has also come forward.


Link, please.

Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if more stuff comes up like this. I agree, the whole 'ladies man' label is offensive to women ... his behavior (even without including this charge) has been aggressive.


Yes, there's another euphemism for very bad behavior. It seems the French are remarkably tolerant of this sort of thing, but feminist groups have been complaining for years.
[Post New]05/19/2011 18:52
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The whole story sounds very fishy. This guy is a known ladies man and was leading the polls to unseat his major political and personal rival Sarkozy. Planting that young beautiful African maid in the hotel and then having her forge the claim seems like a very Sarkozy thing to do. And remember, DGSE routinely does operations like these against political foes..remember Rainbow Warrior?


Not at all. The entire population of France agrees with you. Are you really this stupid?


Well, as long as the entire population of France agrees...
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